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Kathleen Rice continues to oppose Pelosi (Original Post) brooklynite Nov 2018 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author Eliot Rosewater Nov 2018 #1
Hakeem Jeffries, black caucus whip, is the new caucus chair. Hortensis Nov 2018 #2
Because, like a smart politician, Jeffries worked quietly in the background. brooklynite Nov 2018 #3
Yes. A busy man doing his job well. Hortensis Nov 2018 #6
Tim Ryan THe Guy Who Was Practically On His Knees Yesterday Me. Nov 2018 #12
Yes. He didn't exactly play whatever cards he Hortensis Nov 2018 #13
Rep. Rice Has An Issue Methinks Me. Nov 2018 #4
She's one of the Problem Solvers now and a former Republican Hortensis Nov 2018 #8
She Hangs With Moulton & Ryan Me. Nov 2018 #10
Just googled a photo of Rice. Sorry, but she's no spring chicken either. brush Nov 2018 #5
Lol...really? BeyondGeography Nov 2018 #7
I know, not that PC a thing to say but I couldn't help it when I saw her photo. brush Nov 2018 #9
Relevance? brooklynite Nov 2018 #16
You've heard just as everyone else has of these ambitious, anti-Pelosi groups... brush Nov 2018 #18
And how does that relate to her specific age, if she's not running? brooklynite Nov 2018 #19
Come on. None of them have the courage to run but sure wouldn't... brush Nov 2018 #20
Any chance that the likes of Rice will be hounded as Issa etc were ? Make them know that OnDoutside Nov 2018 #11
Who are "the people?" Renew Deal Nov 2018 #14
Democrats of the district, like Democrats in other districts where that sort of pressure OnDoutside Nov 2018 #17
"The fight goes on" NastyRiffraff Nov 2018 #15
She SAYS she tried to engage her in a reasonable conversation. LiberalFighter Nov 2018 #21

Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
2. Hakeem Jeffries, black caucus whip, is the new caucus chair.
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 03:19 PM
Nov 2018

I think THIS is far more important. Jeffries is 48 with years of good experience and has been talked about among his colleagues as an eventual possible speaker or other top leadership position -- because he stands out among and to his colleagues as leadership material.

How is it that the media, obligingly pushing stuff like Kathleen Rice's attention seeking, couldn't inform the public that Jeffries even existed until his Democratic colleagues forced some to admit it this afternoon?

Is it that it would spoil their pumping up and sensationalizing of a "battle of the shiny new v hoary old" theme? Btw, I just heard this 48-year-old member with several years experience in congress described as "new" on MSNBC.

Another, btw? He beat Barbara Lee, who contested for the position. Who's SHE? Oh, just another eminent but anonymous member of congress who didn't badmouth Nancy Pelosi.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
6. Yes. A busy man doing his job well.
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 03:43 PM
Nov 2018
Kathleen Rice wins backing from GOP officials
Regarding Rice, "She said the Democrats needed someone who could promote change, focus on the future and shake up the status quo. Earlier this month, Rice suggested that that person could be Tim Ryan (D-Ohio), whom she said had her “complete support.” “Right now, Tim Ryan is the one person who’s starting those tough conversations that so many of us wanted our entire caucus to have,” Rice said in a statement.


Tim Ryan, really? Uhuh. Rice is in that mostly conservative "problem solvers" group that masquerades as genuinely bipartisan. She's been endorsed in more than one election, including this one, by Republican officials back home. She had a very weak, amateur opponent in the Democratic primary, but he did point out that he was running in part because "Rice is a “Republican who changed parties because of the district we are in." He sounds rather loose and amateurish in his accusations of having no values except getting elected, etc., but I checked and she was a Republican before 2005.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
12. Tim Ryan THe Guy Who Was Practically On His Knees Yesterday
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 04:11 PM
Nov 2018

"imploring" Comrade Trump to keep his promises regarding GM in Ohio and is an avowed corporatist

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
13. Yes. He didn't exactly play whatever cards he
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 04:16 PM
Nov 2018

imagined he had well, did he? No, Tim, 5 mismatched face cards don't beat a royal flush.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
4. Rep. Rice Has An Issue Methinks
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 03:35 PM
Nov 2018

by my count with 40 seat and a deal made with so-called problem solvers she has the numbers she needs with 1 to spare

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
8. She's one of the Problem Solvers now and a former Republican
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 03:50 PM
Nov 2018

who is trying to hamstring Democratic house power. At least she seemed to say she was with the Problem Solvers as she supported their actions.

She's gotten elected and reelected by pleasing Republican leaders at home (who endorsed her over the Republican candidate) but is probably not destined for high position in the strongly liberal-dominated Democratic caucus. She is ranking member of the Homeland Security subcommittee on counterterrorism and intelligence

Me.

(35,454 posts)
10. She Hangs With Moulton & Ryan
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 04:07 PM
Nov 2018

and is very ambitious but would probably do better as the Con she once was but probably couldn't get elected as such. I have a real problem to those who are so blatantly dishonest. From what I've read she's not real popular with the caucus at large.

brush

(53,743 posts)
9. I know, not that PC a thing to say but I couldn't help it when I saw her photo.
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 03:53 PM
Nov 2018

She doesn't look that much younger than soon-to-be-Speaker Pelosi.

brush

(53,743 posts)
18. You've heard just as everyone else has of these ambitious, anti-Pelosi groups...
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 08:32 PM
Nov 2018

clamoring for younger leadership

brush

(53,743 posts)
20. Come on. None of them have the courage to run but sure wouldn't...
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 09:42 PM
Nov 2018

turn it down if their name was put forward if Pelosi was deposed.

OnDoutside

(19,948 posts)
11. Any chance that the likes of Rice will be hounded as Issa etc were ? Make them know that
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 04:08 PM
Nov 2018

they're being monitored by the people.

OnDoutside

(19,948 posts)
17. Democrats of the district, like Democrats in other districts where that sort of pressure
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 04:22 PM
Nov 2018

had an effect. If these 'problem solvers' are the pocket of healthcare companies, I see it as imperative that they be kept under pressure.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
15. "The fight goes on"
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 04:18 PM
Nov 2018

says Mike DeBonis of the Washington Post. WHAT fight? Pelosi doesn't even have a credible challenger. The media continues to pretend opposition to her is a major story.

LiberalFighter

(50,783 posts)
21. She SAYS she tried to engage her in a reasonable conversation.
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 09:56 PM
Nov 2018

Here is the thing. That group are clueless about organizing. If they wanted to accomplish their goals they would need to get more people on board before trying to convince someone make a change. If they are about 10% of caucus they need to wait until they are closer to 40% with some that might want to join them. They apparently didn't have the ideas or the ability to present those ideas to change the minds.

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