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sarah FAILIN

(2,857 posts)
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 03:47 PM Nov 2018

If Trump is still here in 2020, I'm voting in the Republican primary

Whoever tries to primary him will get my vote. If he is still here the Republicans that will stand against him will need all the help they can get. I'm going to trust the dem ticket to work itself out.

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If Trump is still here in 2020, I'm voting in the Republican primary (Original Post) sarah FAILIN Nov 2018 OP
Cannot do that. redstatebluegirl Nov 2018 #1
We don't register sarah FAILIN Nov 2018 #4
I don't see that. MuseRider Nov 2018 #11
I am not a Bernie person, I am not far left. I know that is not popular here but that is who redstatebluegirl Nov 2018 #18
Bernie? MuseRider Nov 2018 #24
Yes, but acting as spoilers throwing elections with disastrous, Hortensis Nov 2018 #28
You must be a democrat, right on. demosincebirth Nov 2018 #39
If you leave in a state with open primaries you sure can do it still_one Nov 2018 #29
If the primary is the real election, I'd suggest that it's the only way to make your vote count. Pope George Ringo II Nov 2018 #37
Too many hypotheticals this early for a strategy like that. Shell_Seas Nov 2018 #2
I'm hoping he is in jail and long gone sarah FAILIN Nov 2018 #5
I'm hoping right there with you. Shell_Seas Nov 2018 #14
Good idea. I live in NH and I can do that. Vinca Nov 2018 #3
Well I was wrong last time around, but I'd say given Trump's numbers and more time for them JCanete Nov 2018 #6
Ms elected someone that is a racist yesterday sarah FAILIN Nov 2018 #7
Fortunately, all we need to do is put MI, PA and WI back in our column. Garrett78 Nov 2018 #8
All we have to do? exboyfil Nov 2018 #31
I think 2016 was essentially a fluke. Aided by Comey, 30 years of anti-Clinton attacks, etc. Garrett78 Nov 2018 #36
we have caucuses and no way am i going into a gym full of trumpers samnsara Nov 2018 #9
I pity y'all sarah FAILIN Nov 2018 #10
I could do the same thing in Michigan, but I have integrity (so I won't). n/t demmiblue Nov 2018 #12
Well aren't you special. sarah FAILIN Nov 2018 #15
Yes, yes I am. demmiblue Nov 2018 #16
Goodbye. sarah FAILIN Nov 2018 #19
Are you going somewhere? demmiblue Nov 2018 #20
Sarah you have my blessing to do what you can for your country MaryMagdaline Nov 2018 #30
I thought about doing that... In It to Win It Nov 2018 #13
That's certainly your perogative, but........ WillowTree Nov 2018 #17
The correct way to oppose Trump is to support the Democratric Party and its candidates. TeamPooka Nov 2018 #21
+1 demmiblue Nov 2018 #27
Back in 2008, my wife worked with a guy NewJeffCT Nov 2018 #22
That's when I joined the Democratic Party FakeNoose Nov 2018 #26
I see nothing underhanded in this plan FakeNoose Nov 2018 #23
in may state you do not have to declare but you can only vote for one party on the primary ballot dembotoz Nov 2018 #25
The odds of Trump not being here as president in 2020 elocs Nov 2018 #32
I wouldn't vote for Trump either. sarah FAILIN Nov 2018 #34
I meant that I wouldn't vote in the Republican primary elocs Nov 2018 #38
Unintended consequences exboyfil Nov 2018 #33
If you live in a red area think of the down ballot LeftInTX Nov 2018 #35

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
1. Cannot do that.
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 03:52 PM
Nov 2018

I live in Oklahoma, I have thought more than once, I should register as a Republican so I can actually cast a vote that matters in the primary and the general, but I just can't do it. It is dishonest.

sarah FAILIN

(2,857 posts)
4. We don't register
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 03:59 PM
Nov 2018

I've voted against the worst choice before then voted for my choice in the General. This time I feel like we have to fight at every opportunity.

The rest of you do as you feel is best.

MuseRider

(34,106 posts)
11. I don't see that.
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 04:38 PM
Nov 2018

If it is available to do that then there is nothing dishonest about it. If either party did not want that it would not be open. I did that once when there was a particularly heinous state legislator that needed to be gone. Lots and lots of Democrats did and it worked. You can change your party status at the primaries if you want here. I get what you are saying but I figure they all know that sometimes jockying with the parties is needed. I would prefer not to do it but in the case of Trump I might be convinced.

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
18. I am not a Bernie person, I am not far left. I know that is not popular here but that is who
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 04:45 PM
Nov 2018

I am. I don't agree with the faction who wants change no matter what the consequences.

MuseRider

(34,106 posts)
24. Bernie?
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 04:49 PM
Nov 2018

What? This has nothing to do with Bernie. I am not sure what you mean and I don't want what I think you might mean to be true so let's just leave it there so this thread can move on with the correct discussion ok?

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
28. Yes, but acting as spoilers throwing elections with disastrous,
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 04:56 PM
Nov 2018

self destructive consequences is not the only motivation or result of registering and voting for candidates in the "other" party.

Our deep south district is measured as among the reddest in the entire nation. Democrats never win here, and Republicans will take office. In this era we have literally never seen one I would want to give government power to, but we usually find candidates who seem at least somewhat better choices than the right-wing extremists they're running against. Some could probably be decent legislators in an environment that allowed it, not that we have that.

We see voting for Republicans we believe would do less harm as both a duty and a moral position and as a valid way to have our say in who will be given power.

Pope George Ringo II

(1,896 posts)
37. If the primary is the real election, I'd suggest that it's the only way to make your vote count.
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 05:41 PM
Nov 2018

You're entitled to have your vote count.

(I vote against Kevin Brady every primary...)

 

JCanete

(5,272 posts)
6. Well I was wrong last time around, but I'd say given Trump's numbers and more time for them
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 04:06 PM
Nov 2018

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to get even worse - now that his economy is also starting to suck along with every other shitty thing about him - that he's a shoe-in to lose in 2020. Im not sure why we'd want to fight against a candidate with less baggage in the GE.

sarah FAILIN

(2,857 posts)
7. Ms elected someone that is a racist yesterday
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 04:17 PM
Nov 2018

I'm surrounded by the type that elected her and have zero faith in their ability to see the light or vote in their own best interests. Just because they should have better sense doesn't mean they will. Simply put, his supporters are rabid lunatics.
I know you are right though.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
36. I think 2016 was essentially a fluke. Aided by Comey, 30 years of anti-Clinton attacks, etc.
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 05:25 PM
Nov 2018

And all 3 states were super close. I expect them to be blue again in 2020. We already made progress in those states this month.

Other states we can put in play: FL, NC, AZ, GA, OH.

The days of a candidate winning 400 electoral votes are long gone, but Obama's 365 from 2008 is within reach.

MaryMagdaline

(6,853 posts)
30. Sarah you have my blessing to do what you can for your country
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 05:00 PM
Nov 2018

It is absolutely NOT improper to vote in the other party’s primary to try to get rid of Hitler. You’re saying you can live with any Dem, but you need to use the power of your vote for the most good it will do. Since we have a binary system, winner take all, you may be right to vote that way. Not that you need my approval, but I definitely appreciate your efforts to maximize the power of your vote.

WillowTree

(5,325 posts)
17. That's certainly your perogative, but........
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 04:43 PM
Nov 2018

.......then don't complain if you're less that pleased with whomever gets the Democratic nomination.

TeamPooka

(24,221 posts)
21. The correct way to oppose Trump is to support the Democratric Party and its candidates.
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 04:47 PM
Nov 2018

Don't swim in the sewer.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
22. Back in 2008, my wife worked with a guy
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 04:48 PM
Nov 2018

that changed his voter registration to Democrat from Republican just to vote against Hillary Clinton in the primaries. In Connecticut, you need to do this several months in advance if you change parties to prevent too many shenanigans like that.

FakeNoose

(32,634 posts)
26. That's when I joined the Democratic Party
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 04:51 PM
Nov 2018

... for the express reason of voting FOR Hillary in the primary!

Funny how things work out.



FakeNoose

(32,634 posts)
23. I see nothing underhanded in this plan
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 04:49 PM
Nov 2018

... and I know for a fact that the GOP has been doing this to Dems for years.

However each state is different and in PA we can only vote in the primary in the party in which we are registered. For a very long time I was registered independent, and I was never able to vote in the primary at all. I guess maybe in your state it's a little different.





dembotoz

(16,800 posts)
25. in may state you do not have to declare but you can only vote for one party on the primary ballot
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 04:51 PM
Nov 2018

have pondered doing this from time to time just to screw with the gop but i never have

there is always somebody on the dem side in a race i care about

elocs

(22,569 posts)
32. The odds of Trump not being here as president in 2020
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 05:15 PM
Nov 2018

are about the same for him getting sucked into a parallel dimension or being a victim of spontaneous human combustion.
And except for in DU Fantasy Land, Trump is not going to be impeached and convicted, he is not going to resign, and he is not going to be marched off to a federal prison in an orange jumpsuit.

I'm in Wisconsin so I can vote in whatever primary I please, and I expect a lot of candidates in the Democratic primary, but even if that were not true I'd be damned if I ever cast a vote for Donald Trump.

Who thinks that the best Democratic candidate doesn't need all the help they can get?
Trump will easily be the Republican party nominee for president, and with the Supreme Court firmly in his pocket and the GOP controlling the Senate he can easily drag out anything for 2 years with 1 hand tied behind his back.

sarah FAILIN

(2,857 posts)
34. I wouldn't vote for Trump either.
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 05:20 PM
Nov 2018

I'm going to vote for the person running against him in the primary.

elocs

(22,569 posts)
38. I meant that I wouldn't vote in the Republican primary
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 06:02 PM
Nov 2018

when there is likely to be a robust Democratic primary because Trump will get the nomination regardless.

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
33. Unintended consequences
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 05:19 PM
Nov 2018

I wonder how many thought I will give it a go in 2016 because Trump is unelectable. If Kasich had been nominated, I am not entirely convinced that Clinton would have won. There was an incumbent head wind.

LeftInTX

(25,278 posts)
35. If you live in a red area think of the down ballot
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 05:22 PM
Nov 2018

The primary is where decisions are made in red areas. Pic the sane one.

My husband usually votes in Republican primaries to keep Tea Party candidates off the general election ballot. He's an educator. He's always trying to get one guy off the State Board of Education.

You vote has higher weight in local elections.

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