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NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
Thu Nov 29, 2018, 12:42 PM Nov 2018

Do you think trump would flip on Putin in order to save his ass and those of his spawn?

If he thinks his time is up, would he ever scream that "it's all Putin's fault, he made me"?



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Yes, He'll do anything, including flipping on Putin
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No way
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Do you think trump would flip on Putin in order to save his ass and those of his spawn? (Original Post) NightWatcher Nov 2018 OP
He flips on Putin and everything Putin has on him will spill out Siwsan Nov 2018 #1
Pee tape Fuzzpope Nov 2018 #4
And a whole lot of truth behind how he is "financed" Siwsan Nov 2018 #6
You think there's a tape of Trump raping an underage prostitute and then murdering her? bearsfootball516 Nov 2018 #9
No, it's not. Fuzzpope Nov 2018 #14
Don't think that will help him, if it gets to that point. Hoyt Nov 2018 #2
Putin may get each one of them to Ilsa Nov 2018 #3
I am with the "he'd do anything" crowd. Caliman73 Nov 2018 #5
Are ya kidding me? Grammy23 Nov 2018 #7
Putin is the cat and Trump is the mouse. OAITW r.2.0 Nov 2018 #8
What would be achieved by "flipping"? brooklynite Nov 2018 #10
He could say that he was manipulated and forced to do what he did NightWatcher Nov 2018 #13
No, they get consideration for giving up someone who can be prosecuted brooklynite Nov 2018 #17
He would flip on his own family! Joe941 Nov 2018 #11
What if he sent the CIA after Putin Buckeyeblue Nov 2018 #12
No Way!! healthnut7 Nov 2018 #15
No way. Putin owns him. tavernier Nov 2018 #16
Yes lsewpershad Nov 2018 #18
Isn't it likely that Putin would target Ivanka if Trump turned on him? eleny Nov 2018 #19

Siwsan

(26,251 posts)
1. He flips on Putin and everything Putin has on him will spill out
Thu Nov 29, 2018, 12:45 PM
Nov 2018

I believe what Putin has on him is the only thing that scares him.

 

Fuzzpope

(602 posts)
4. Pee tape
Thu Nov 29, 2018, 12:51 PM
Nov 2018

I'll put this out there, it's been my mind for the last couple of years.

I don't think the pee tape is a pee tape.

I think the mythical pee tape is Trump forcing himself on a human trafficked minor and accidentally (or not) killing her during a struggle when she resists.

A pee tape would only add to his legend status among his base, these ppl live vicariously through Trump, so the more exotic and primal the better.

Virtually all publicity is good publicity for the Trump orbit, so I don't see that being the compulsion that brought him to his knees in Helsinki.

Murder, though?

That's different.

Siwsan

(26,251 posts)
6. And a whole lot of truth behind how he is "financed"
Thu Nov 29, 2018, 12:58 PM
Nov 2018

I've heard the rumors about trump*'s connection to Jeffrey Epstein. I know a lot of powerful people were in his circle but that doesn't necessarily implicate them in Epstein's more notorious, heinous activities. But, from what we already know about trump*, NOTHING that will come out about him will really surprise me.

bearsfootball516

(6,373 posts)
9. You think there's a tape of Trump raping an underage prostitute and then murdering her?
Thu Nov 29, 2018, 01:03 PM
Nov 2018

I know he's a piece of shit, but that's one hell of a jump to make.

 

Fuzzpope

(602 posts)
14. No, it's not.
Thu Nov 29, 2018, 01:18 PM
Nov 2018

But you're welcome to think/believe what you want.

I don't put any depravity past those seeking absolute power as Trump does, command over life and death is the ultimate expression of such things.

I don't put it past him for one second. The man is a raving sociopath who values no other human lives save for, well..Ivanka.

Caliman73

(11,726 posts)
5. I am with the "he'd do anything" crowd.
Thu Nov 29, 2018, 12:51 PM
Nov 2018

However, I am also with the, "it wouldn't help at that point". Trump set himself up to be used and/or willingly went along with anything that Putin might have planned. The US cannot prosecute Putin so it doesn't matter if Trump says, "It was all his doing". Trump is subject to US law.

So, yes, Trump would sink to any cowardly level to protect himself and maybe his family, but it would be irrelevant for him to try to blame everything on Putin.

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
7. Are ya kidding me?
Thu Nov 29, 2018, 01:00 PM
Nov 2018

He’d flip his mom and dad if it came right down to it. No one is safe. Well, possibly Ivanka. But if I was in her stilettos, I’d watch my back.

OAITW r.2.0

(24,322 posts)
8. Putin is the cat and Trump is the mouse.
Thu Nov 29, 2018, 01:02 PM
Nov 2018

Putin has been playing with Trump for the past few years. When he is through playing, he'll hang Trump out to dry.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
13. He could say that he was manipulated and forced to do what he did
Thu Nov 29, 2018, 01:16 PM
Nov 2018

And maybe he would put sanctions on them as a punishment

The guilty can deal for easier sentences if they can give up someone further up the chain. trump is at the top but maybe he could say that Putin was in order to save some face.

brooklynite

(94,384 posts)
17. No, they get consideration for giving up someone who can be prosecuted
Thu Nov 29, 2018, 01:42 PM
Nov 2018

Blaming Putin would have no value in either a Mueller indictment or Impeachment.

Buckeyeblue

(5,499 posts)
12. What if he sent the CIA after Putin
Thu Nov 29, 2018, 01:07 PM
Nov 2018

I would say if I were Putin maybe I'm not sleeping all that great at night. If something happens to Putin, then what?

healthnut7

(249 posts)
15. No Way!!
Thu Nov 29, 2018, 01:19 PM
Nov 2018

Just like Manafort, he doesn't want to accidentally fall of a balcony or worse. He's in with the big boys now. Plus their families are game as well. Now that might not mean anything to T if it is him or them but I think it does for Manafort.

eleny

(46,166 posts)
19. Isn't it likely that Putin would target Ivanka if Trump turned on him?
Thu Nov 29, 2018, 01:53 PM
Nov 2018

This is one poll to mull over. Trump may be nuts but his daughter seems like his most vulnerable nerve.

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