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Lindsey Graham, the man with the Brett Kavanaugh vapors about how unfair he was treated, is now downplaying the seriousness of lying to the FBI and Congress. For some reason, it was enough for Bill Clinton impeachment, years back.
Trump Defenders Downplay New Cohen Plea: Its Just Perjury!
The White Houses closest allies in Congress and the media are leaning on President Trumps go-to line in downplaying Thursdays news that Michael Cohen has entered into a plea deal with special counsel Robert Mueller.
Ignoring the meat of the developmentthat Cohen admitted he was working on a deal for the Trump Organization to develop a project in Moscow in the middle of Trumps 2016 presidential campaignTrumps defenders have claimed that Mueller is forced to prosecute false statements because he has no stronger criminal charges to bring.
Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) dismissed Cohens new guilty plea, calling it a process crime.
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/trump-allies-downplay-cohen-plea-just-perjury
Hey, Lindsey! If lying under oath is just a "Process Crime," I guess you didn't convict anyone while you were a Judge Advocate in the Air Force, or go after the opposition for lying in private practice. That's OK, Lindsey--I know you are lying too.
You're just a fucking liar like the rest of the Putin-loving GOP traitors.
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Vinca
(50,168 posts)criminals. Lindsey knows what's going on. I can't figure out his schizophrenia since McCain died. He's really lost at sea without the guidance of his former best friend.
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)"In 1999.
Graham, who was arguing at the time for impeachment of then-President Bill Clinton, said:
"You dont even have to be convicted of a crime to lose your job in this constitutional republic. If this body determines that your conduct as a public official is clearly out of bounds in your role. Because impeachment is not about punishment. Impeachment is about cleansing the office. Impeachment is about restoring honor and integrity to the office." "
The link to a video with him making those remarks below.
Raven123
(4,714 posts)grantcart
(53,061 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(48,773 posts)pangaia
(24,324 posts)You can't miss it in the revealing expressions often seen on their faces, the tight lips, glaring eyes. It is sickening.
To say nothing of their words and actions.
Trueblue Texan
(2,368 posts)...I don't doubt Graham is similarly compromised. Now that he wasn't named AG he seems to have his drawers in a bit of a tuck towards Trump, but he's definitely continuing to behave as though he needs cover.
johnnyfins
(772 posts)He was anti Trump and he switched to Pro Trump at the snap of a finger. People dont change like that. Especially politicians. Unless they are motivated to do so. Its simple. He has either been promised money, or the administration has serious dirt on him, or both.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)part of the whole Clinton impeachment effort A LARGE part. One of the charges he thought was important enough to derail a presidency for was perjury. We need every single reporter in his face reminding him of that.
watoos
(7,142 posts)leftynyc
(26,060 posts)of obstruction of justice (more irony for you as the cons are saying obstruction is another "process crime" and even that presidents can't commit obstruction.
Mr. Ected
(9,670 posts)They are crimes nonetheless and even moreso coming from the titular heads of our government.
But the process crimes were perpetrated in COVERING UP the more egregious crimes of money laundering, conspiracy, tax fraud, RICO, obstruction, and God knows what else.
WALL THEM UP. WALL THEM UP. WALL THEM UP.
bringthePaine
(1,726 posts)really, its just all lies and bullshit, so why grant a platform
for any of it?
Iggo
(47,486 posts)Fullduplexxx
(7,818 posts)Volaris
(10,260 posts)allgood33
(1,584 posts)Major Nikon
(36,814 posts)All he did was provide misleading answers about a blowjob that wasn't material to the matter before the court and had exactly zero to do with his office.
nuxvomica
(12,360 posts)Prosecutors don't charge people with perjury just for lying. The lie has to be about something material to the case and it must be made in an attempt to hide illegal behavior; the lie has to point to something bigger.
watoos
(7,142 posts)stated that people in the Nixon administration lied to Congress and Nixon knew they were lying. The fact that Nixon did not speak up and report their lies was one of the charges that was being used to impeach him.
My how times have changed.
Sunday school teacher Jimmy Carter had to sell his beloved peanut farm to avoid a potential conflict of interest.
Racerdog1
(808 posts)Get out from under tRump's desk. You have made a big enough ass of yourself. Don't forget to wipe your chin.
Duppers
(28,094 posts)Rubles converted to dollars cash.
world wide wally
(21,718 posts)We are a nation of Trump.
Is that about right, Lindsey?
certainot
(9,090 posts)they're all going to say it and that's what the response should be in media - "that's what limbaugh says"
Nitram
(22,663 posts)certainot
(9,090 posts)and lay out there on a silver platter with a toothpick in it
watoos
(7,142 posts)certainot
(9,090 posts)major media are part of the free speech spectrum
even fox has 'alternatives' a click away in most parts of the US
talk radio is also the only major medium that the republican (and russian) think tanks can coordinate on the local level.
limbaugh is point man although it's decreasing he still leads the pack. most national and local blowhards get the same material from similar sources. most of that bullshit and lies can't sell widely on TV on its own. radio is the only medium with a 50 mil a week audience getting it passively with no challenge from the other side of the spectrum. those memes and talking points - lies- can get prechewed and rechewed for months and years with great certitude as if they are fact.
people who listen and can't call then call the local shows and repeat the same crap in different ways to reinforce it and the local hosts don't correct and usually add to it.
talk radio is the only medium where these big lies can get repeated over and over without direct challenge. the consequences for ignoring it are hitting up in the face.
the whole email stupidity depended on their ability to chew that crap on the radio for years, and the dems and progressive orgs not only ignore it they don't even poll for it - the biggest political mistake in history
that is why the russians told trump to base his campaign on and learn to speak 'talk radio'. they studied it in 2014 (sam nunberg - new york magazine 4/3/16). all trump's talking points and policies to cater to the base are steeped in months and years of talk radio repetition. the russian trolls coordinated to it.
talk radio is the greatest single source of this alternate reality that just fucked us big time.
it is also the best opportunity to take trump and the gop out asap:
88 universities support 260 limbaugh stations
Artificial intelligence will force ad industry to kill RW radio. Dems can accelerate the inevitable.
watoos
(7,142 posts)Nitram
(22,663 posts)Botany
(70,282 posts)In the republicans great 7 year 77 million $ b.j. hunt called White Water
they put Bill Clinton under oath and caught him lying about a blow job
and used that lie as grounds to impeach him. A "Process Crime" Ms. Lindsey?
Please, you no good little shit.
Major Nikon
(36,814 posts)It wasn't Clinton's fault Ann Coulter was too incompetent of a lawyer to legally define a blowjob.
malaise
(267,796 posts)WTF?
justgamma
(3,660 posts)Zambero
(8,954 posts)Perjury, cover-up, obstruction of justice, all processes apart from the in initial criminal activity itself. In your infinite wisdom, do you have any plans to open up a Graham University? If so, Obvious Law 101 should be a required course.
TrishaJ
(797 posts)but impeaching Bill Clinton where Graham led the charge "rule of law! rule of law! rule of law!" over PERJURY was necessary???
PALEEEEEEEEEEEEEZE, Lindsey, you hypocritical MOFO!!