If anyone likes the name Abcde that much,

[guillaumeb]

they should change their own name to Abcde and live with it.

They should not burden their own child with such a creation.

My view.

[Charlotte Little]

1. It's not a name

It's the first five letters of the alphabet. But I get your point and agree with it.

(edited as I realized there is an e on the end...why???????)

[Niagara]

5. It is a name

The original spelling is Absidy. However one spells this unusual name, it's still not as popular as the name Charlotte.

What you're currently seeing is an alternative spelling.

Nimrod is actually a Hebrew name. Just because you don't like the name, doesn't mean it's not a name.

[Charlotte Little]

6. Absidy

is a beautiful name.

Abcde is the first five letters of the alphabet.

[tonedevil]

83. That is merely your opinion...

Anyone who can only think of one way to spell a word obviously lacks imagination.

[Adrahil]

127. Whatever.. that spelling is asanine

The kid isn’t at fault, but the parents are fools for speeling the name this way.

[Niagara]

129. My apologies

How asinine of me to be under the false pretense that we as Democratic voters stand for and defend personal freedom.

[Kaleva]

136. Gun humpers agree wtih you.

[Niagara]

140. Thank you for comparing me to a gun humping repuke

Welcome to my ignore list.

[Kaleva]

141. Well, they are all for "personal freedom" without having to face consequences.

[PJMcK]

26. Isn't the "E" silent?

(wink)

[Poiuyt]

43. If we're going to go with strict English orthography, the "c" would be

pronounced /k/ (like cat).

[Kaleva]

137. Abkdee?

[Poiuyt]

150. An "e" at the end of a word is almost silent

except for some words that come to us from the French language where it makes the /ai/ sound, like cafe.

I think the only time that "e" at the end of a word makes the long /ee/ sound is if it ends with "ee" like employee.

Abcde would really be unpronounceable by our regular English conventions. That doesn't mean it can't be a name with the pronunciation being whatever they want.

[SoCalDem]

2. That girl may change her name to Abby at age 18

I would..

I got the "odd" name..my brothers and sister all got normal names.. I have spent a lifetime getting misspelled mail, having it mispronoiunced..and having people I meet ask me how to pronounce it..

My boys got normal names..

[Dave Starsky]

84. She should change her last name to Fghij.

It's a real name that's pronounced "fig-hidge".

[Charlotte Little]

90. Love it

[moose65]

116. You win the internet today!

[True Dough]

128. I LOL'd!

[MineralMan]

135. Or Lmno, pronounced

Elemeno.

Or maybe a single syllable name, STUV, pronounced Stoove.

[Politicub]

142. Absidy Fighidge

Sounds like a Harry Potter character.

[Dave Starsky]

151. It does!

My wife said she thought it sounded like a British children's book character, like someone Roald Dahl would come up with.

[jcgoldie]

144. why not vwxyz

"vooksis"

[trc]

152. Absidy Fig-Hidge

Member of Parliament.

[In It to Win It]

3. No originality at all

[RockRaven]

4. They also should not act like their favored pronunciation is obvious and/or perfectly reasonable

If I name my kid "Fuckyou" and people give me and them crap about it, it's really dumb for me to raise the issue that it is *supposed* to be pronounced foo-kew thank you very much.

[KatyMan]

92. Surprised this hasn't been posted yet...

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[OriginalGeek]

155. lol

We went to lunch at a Thai place once and one of the guys asked about a dish called "Phuket" something (I forget what the actual food was - a soup I think) but all the server said was "THAT'S NOT HOW THAT IS PRONOUNCED!"

[MrGrieves]

7. Unusual amount of judgement going on here lately

[liberalhistorian]

9. I've noticed that, too, and

it's a bit disturbing.

[Charlotte Little]

11. And by nature of your response

You are essentially judging those of us who share a different opinion.

[MrGrieves]

56. How so?

How so? I made an observation. I didn't judge anyone for it. Just noticed it happening.

[Charlotte Little]

57. "Unusual amount of judgement going on here lately"

Is a judgment.

I'm gonna bet there is some name, song, holiday, food, smell, hair color, tattoo, book, animal, etc. that you don't care for that I may find adorable, cute, acceptable, unique, etc. My judgment of it (opinion) is based on my observing it and deciding I like it. Just as your judgement of it is based on you observing it and deciding you don't like it. That is all this is. Like/dislike based on observation and judgment and voicing an opinion.

You've observed and judged that some of us don't like Abcde as a "name" given to a child (for whatever reason) and you find us judgmental. You are certainly entitled to your opinion but you're not above the fray.

On another note, I am equally turned off by the name North West. I'm sure some Kim/Kanye fan's would hiss at me for being so darn judgmental. Oh well, it's my opinion.

[delisen]

14. Big time Name Shaming epidemic!

[Drahthaardogs]

20. Bullshit.

It's damned near child abuse and the mother sucks ass for doing that to her child. It is neither cute nor clever.

So fucking sick of people claiming "shaming" and "judgement" as if it's ALWAYS bad.

I reject your premise that we must accept all. Giving a child a ridiculous name is WRONG.

I am going to use my glial cells and frontal lobes to determine that burdens like this put on a child to entertain a parent or satisfy some need to feel unique is abusive.

Abuse is wrong. If that's "shaming" or judgemental fucking sue me.

[delisen]

22. Colorful.

[Drahthaardogs]

30. Correct.

Fixed it for you!

[smirkymonkey]

121. +1000

[pnwmom]

16. Some people have more empathy than others

for the innocent child that was burdened with a joke of a name.

[Snackshack]

52. Very True.

[Mr. Quackers]

65. judgment? among strangers? on the Internets?

really?

[liberalhistorian]

8. It doesn't matter what someone's name is.

Your name could be "Murgatroyd Flyswatter" and it still wouldn't give a public employee, or any business employee for that matter, the right to laugh and snicker and PUBLICLY POST it on social media. That is way beyond the bounds of professional behavior. The only one at fault in that instance is the airline employee, period.

[ProudLib72]

12. I got the "weird" name in the family

My first name is Guy. I've lived with the consequences of having an unusual name, putting up with the stupid comments. Of course, the most common "joke" from middle school was drawing a line across the top of the "u" so that my name read "Gay". I thought I had put all that behind me when I was in graduate school pursuing my second masters degree. Then, picking up my baggage after a flight on time, I noticed one of the baggage attendants had drawn a line across the top of the "u". It was then that I realized where those assholes from middle school ended up.

[Codeine]

13. Actually they ABSOLUTELY have that right.

And their employer has the right to fire or discipline them as they deem appropriate in response.

[pnwmom]

17. I don't blame the person for spontaneously chuckling when s/he first saw the name.

That's a normal reaction to surprise and discomfort.

But it shouldn't have been posted on social media.

[delisen]

25. Many Americans still can't pronounce "Nguyen"-maybe it is best to ask

politely how to pronounce an y name with which we are not familiar, or look it up. Information about both names, Nguyen and Abcde, and how to pronounce is available on the internet and very easy to find.

About 50 percent of Vietnamese have the family name Nguyen. Would we want them to change their name or are we willing to learn. I think most of us are willing to learn

We can build a better world, a friendlier and more peaceful world, if we listen and learn before passing judgement on others-including people I Texas where there are well over 300 people named Abcde.

Let's build bridges not walls.

Todays children in the US are more accepting of others than any generation before-whether it be of names or customs.

We can be good role models and create a more open society or we can attack people for not behaving just like us. We have a choice in how we behave.

[Ms. Toad]

31. You really don't see a distinction

Between the Korean equivalent of Smith and a nonsense srting of letters imposed on a child, that will burden that child for their entire life?

For the record, I regularly have conversations with my internstionsl Asian students to make sure they want me to use their American name - and to let them know I do not want them to change their nane to make life easier for me. Out of the dozen or so such students, only one uses his given name in this country. I know the given name of another, but she asked me to use her American name.

[pnwmom]

36. ABCDE looked like a fake name. Like 12345. That's the problem.

And it is used as a fake name. So is Lmnop. And Qrstuv.

I don't think a parent should give a child a name that is unpronounceable in any language, including their own, and that is used as a joke on places like Facebook to hide identities -- and then blame others for reacting in surprise or confusion.

But I think this employee shouldn't have shown it to other people or put it on social media.

[guillaumeb]

38. If the parent likes the name, the parent should change their own name.

And not burden the child with such a different name.

[Adrahil]

49. Nope. Can't completely agree.

While you are correct that the kid shouldn't be publicly humiliated, it's also true that the parent(s) should take some responsibility for spelling their kid's name in an absolutely ridiculous way. I knew a social worker who worked with a family that named their kid Gonorrhea (but pronounced it Guh-NOR-ee-ah). I don't care where you are from, that's just stupid.

[Liberal In Texas]

10. Lot of "stupid" names out there. Who cares?

Reminds me of the 711 clerk who was probably a recent immigrant with a name badge that said DUNG. So?

Many names are family legacies. So just leave them alone.

Also, parents sometime might name the kid "Moonbeam" or something.

Parents do some odd things. Diversity is cool. And I kind of like Moonbeam these days.

[radical noodle]

123. Moonbeam, Blue, Sunshine, Wolf, Echo

lots of names like that from the 70s and I know people with those names. At least it shows some creativity. When I was a girl growing up in the 50s, half the girls were named Judy or Linda. I'm okay with almost any name as long as it isn't Hitler or something awful like that. Besides, many kids dislike their names for one reason or another anyway.

Remember Picabo Street?

[pnwmom]

15. It's unpronounceable using the usual rules of phonics.

Which is what will make even not-horrible people laugh, as they try to figure out how it could be pronounced. That, or the thought that maybe they were looking at some kind of fill-in-the-blank mistake.

Is the next baby going to be named 12345?

[LisaL]

24. Yes, and I imagine this kid is going to be constantly asked how to pronounce her name.

[guillaumeb]

39. And in my opinion, it borders on psychological abuse.

My own full name, starting with Guillaume, is very difficult for English speakers to pronounce, but mist recognize that it is French. Abcde is a nonsense group of letters.

[delisen]

18. Abcde goes back to at least 1990. It is an established name.

I am not going to engage in name shaming this child. I am glad children today are more accepting of diversity.

Any name can be made fun of by ignorant people.

[guillaumeb]

40. I am not name shaming.

I am parent shaming.

[pnwmom]

42. With an average of 11 unfortunate babies a year -- out of 4 million.

I wouldn't call approximately 0.00000275 "established."

It can, however, be found among fake names on Facebook, along with Lmnop, and Qrstuv.

[delisen]

74. I've found it in regular reports. It is rare but so are many other names.

I do live in a part of the US that still has much prejudice in many significant ways. However, it does seem to have allowed for wide latitude in bestowing names upon children.

There has always been a definite trend for using family surnames as first names and some of the names are quite rare. Several teenagers I know have been grateful for the relative rarity of their names because in the age of the internet a rare name can be a great asset when getting a .com or a personal email account.

[pnwmom]

75. These aren't just rare names. They are JOKE names.

They are placeholder names. They are usually just another way of being anonymous, used by an adult who has another actual name.

Any parent who legally bestows a name like ABCDE or QRSTUV on their innocent child is being either thoughtless or heartless.

[Charlotte Little]

63. No one on here is name shaming the child

And how very dishonest of you to state that.

The child isn't on this forum. And at 5 years of age, I doubt she'll ever find these posts. And hopefully, as an adult, should she ever find these posts, she'll laugh.

Abcde is the first five letters of the alphabet. She will go through her life having to pronounce her name and deal with puzzled looks up until she decides to change it. That or...she'll be like Cher and become a star with "ABCDE" in lights. Who knows?

[delisen]

64. I reject your accusation of dishonesty and I consider the

maligning of people who have exercised their democratic right to name a child to be name-shaming. I have seen no evidence here that anyone has reached out to the parents and simply asked their reasons for selecting acertain name. Instead I have read post after post pre-judging and excoriating.

[Charlotte Little]

66. You literally wrote

"I am not going to engage in name shaming this child." Nothing about the mother or the parents. Just shaming that poor little child. But I see you moving that goal post.

As for us reaching out to the parents. Oh sure, delisen. We'll just all stop posting on a forum where the majority of us are anonymous and reach out to every individual we have opinions about. I'm surprised no one on here has contacted fat-ass Trump to ask why he eats five burgers a day.

Oh, gosh! Look! I'm fat-shaming POTUS. Oh, dear, oh, dear!

Why don't you reach out to the parents of Abcde and to Trump and ask for us and report back. Way better use of your time than hanging out here.

[delisen]

71. Sorry I don't understand your post.

[Charlotte Little]

89. That doesn't surprise me

[delisen]

147. I don't understand the Jump from child to Trump.

[ProfessorGAC]

130. Unsurprisingly

You need to go back and read every post to which you replied.
This time you try to read for comprehension

[delisen]

146. That is funny! When in denial, patronize?

[renate]

19. My name is very unusual but not gimmicky

(It’s not actually Renate.)

I would never mock a person’s name, because they were an infant when it was chosen for them. And I would never mock a parent who had only good intentions when they named their child.

But “Abcde” is gimmicky whereas “Absedy” (if the parents really honestly loved the sound) isn’t. It might have been a better idea to save that kind of thing for a middle name.

Still, it’s no one else’s business and I feel bad for the kid, who feels criticized for something she had nothing to do with.

[delisen]

21. Immigrant names are often unpronounceable to Americans

Should we tell tell them to change their names or should we learn to pronounce?

In the Ellis Island days authorities sometimes just arrogantly and ignorantly changed the the name of

the immigrant to one the government worker was familiar with.

I think we should join the world and be prepared to learn.

After the Vietnam war many people were confronted with immigrants whose names they could not pronounce-we opened our minds and learned.

[LisaL]

23. This is a white family from Texas.

Not sure what that has to do with immigration.

[delisen]

28. It is a matter of treating people equally. Even in the US

family and customs can be different. If well over 300 possible even 400 people in Texas have the name-which frankly does not seem bizarre to me at all, I am simply going to accept it and learn how to pronounce it.

[GulfCoast66]

34. I do treat everyone equal on this issue.

I take issue equally with anyone who sticks ABCDE on their poor kid. I will always think they are selfish and self centered and not thinking about their child’s well being.

That said, it is very poor form to make fun of a child. Not her fault she has stupid parents.

[delisen]

50. Ijust don't understand why one makes that judgement without knowing more

about a parent and family.

I know so many children who who do not take fun of other children's names. I think it would be great if adults would role model polite and accepting behaviors regarding other person's choices in life.

[pnwmom]

61. We know the name they picked. That's enough to know

they are severely lacking in judgment or empathy or both.

[delisen]

62. Your argument fits the definition of prejudice.

[pnwmom]

67. I am only prejudiced against parents who deliberately hurt their kids.

If they liked the sound of the name and wanted something unusual, Absidy would have been fine.

ABCDE is just a joke name.

[delisen]

72. I guess we just don't see it the same way. Vive la difference.

[Drahthaardogs]

76. We make that judgement because they jumbled random fucking

Letters and called it a name.

Absidee, Abceede, Abciddy, Absidy, WOULD have been unique but something people recognize in a Germanic or Latin based language be as a word.

ABCDE is the first fucking five letters of the alphabet and is NOT the spelling of any name.

You don't get to make up rules of phonics.

[NYC Liberal]

81. "ABCDE is the first fucking five letters of the alphabet and is NOT the spelling of any name."

Well, that’s demonstrably untrue, as it is the spelling of the name. Given that it is, after all, the name of more than 1 or 2 people.

Absidee, Abceede, Abciddy, Absidy, WOULD have been unique but something people recognize in a Germanic or Latin based language be as a word.

None of those are words any more than Abcde is.

But sure, let’s just have everyone named John and Jane Smith, or the equivalent in each language.

[Drahthaardogs]

87. Show me another proper noun that has no vowels

And I'll concede to your argument

[MineralMan]

93. Crwth, cwm, cwtch.

Derived from Welsh and Old English, but listed in modern English dictionaries.

[Drahthaardogs]

94. Not a proper noun

Eom.

[MineralMan]

95. Well Zyzyxx is a real place name.

However, if you consider y to be a vowel, that doesn't qualify.

Then, there is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cwm,_Blaenau_Gwent. A place name.

[Drahthaardogs]

96. Y is used as a vowel

Doesn't count.

Can't do it can you? It's because it's bullshit and child abuse. Why do you defend this nonsense. Poor kid.

[MineralMan]

99. But, there is a vowel in ABCDE.

So...

I had a friend with the last name Krska. Pronounced Kerska.

I'm not bothered by weird names, really. I can't see how I'm affected.

[Drahthaardogs]

103. Italian names sure seem to bother you ..

If I remember right. "Goombas" you call them, right?

[MineralMan]

124. You seem to have run out of relevant things to say.

OK,Then.

[Drahthaardogs]

125. Well first,

I was not talking to you.

Second, you can't follow the rules I proposed

Third, ever since you used an Italian slur then had the balls to post "why calling him a goomba is not racist", I really have nothing to say to you.

[MineralMan]

126. Dude, you replied directly to me.

It's an open forum. I can reply to any post . Put me on ignore if you contestant to see my replies.

[Drahthaardogs]

133. You interjected above to a conversation I had with another poster

Quit making shit up. It's literally six pists above.

I was not talking to you. As noted before, after your use of slurs and defense of such, I really prefer not to engage with you.

[MineralMan]

134. It is an open public forum.

Anyone can comment at any point.

The first person you replied to in this thread wasn't talking to you, either. See how it works?

[Drahthaardogs]

143. Then by all means let's show everyone where you call italians "goombas"

And Russians "droogiees"

It says a lot...

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029362298

[MineralMan]

149. Cool. I explain why in that post just fine.

Thanks for the link.

[pansypoo53219]

138. my chiropractor used to be krsko. slovenian. at least it isn't cyrilic.

[MineralMan]

139. Yup.

[Mariana]

145. I'm not sure if they still teach this

but when I was in school, we learned this lame little rhyme to remember the vowels: A, E, I, O, U, and sometimes Y and W. W functions as a vowel in those words.

[MineralMan]

148. That's true, of course.

It's not called "double u" for nothing. To make the sound of "W" we prounounce "oo" and then follow it by the sound of the vowel that follows. I showed that to some native Russian speakers - all teachers of Russian at the USAF language school I attended - who pronounced "W" as "V." They caught on immediately and soon eliminated the "V" sound from their speech when a "W" was the letter.

[pnwmom]

53. No. According to govt. records, since 1990 only 328 have had the name

over all that time in the entire US.

So it's about 11 babies a year, out of 4 million, or about 0.00000275.

I don't know where you got the idea it's so common in Texas.

https://www.vocativ.com/culture/society/people-named-abcde/

According to the Social Security Administration database, 328 babies, all girls, have been named Abcde in the United States. Since 1990, we’ve had Abcdes born every year except 1991, 1993, 1994, 1995 and 1996. The name was given to an all-time high of 32 babies in 2009, though the number has slightly declined each year since then. The median age of Abcdes is 7.5, and all but 11 of them are minors.

[delisen]

58. The SSA excludes a name occcurence if there is less than 5 in a given year

They do so for privacy reasons.

I suggested 400 as a possible upper limit to allow for the years when there were less than 5 occurrence of Abcde

Texas has a higher than average incidence of this name.

I do appreciate your fact-based approach but I stand with individual rights.

I appreciate the trend to opposing bullying (it was not always so decades ago even teachers ignored bullying or blamed the bullied.) I believe name-shaming has no place in civilized free societies.

I am happy to see that children today are very one to unique or unusual names. Frankly I would rather name my child after a sequence in the alphabet than "John" which is now a synonym for toilet but I recognize the right of parents to adopt this name for a child and I will not call them insensitive, selfish, stupid for making such a choice.

[pnwmom]

59. Parents can name their children any stupid name they want

and the rest of us are free to criticize them for it.

My opinion is that most of the ABCDE's on birth certificates are a temporary, jokey placeholder till the parents can pick a REAL name.

Along with the vast majority of Facebook accounts of Abcde's, Lmnop's, and Qrstuv's (which don't come with photos.) They aren't real names. They're fake names to cover true identities.

[EllieBC]

35. This isn't a cultural or religious or ethnic name.

This is typical white people thinking a name will make their kid stand out from other kids and failing to understand that it’s not your name but what you do that makes you special or not.

[guillaumeb]

41. I am an immigrant.

My full name is very difficult for most English speakers. But they recognize that my name is French.

If Abcde were a word or name in a foreign language this conversation would not be happening.

[pnwmom]

44. Abcde, Lmnop, Qrstuv are all used as jokey fake names online,

on places like Facebook.

So the employee didn't know how to react. I think her initial confusion was understandable, but she shouldn't have shown it to other people or put if online.

[Jake Stern]

109. My great grandmother changed her name when she immigrated from Hungary

In Hungarian my great-grandmother's civil name was Rosza (pronounced Ro-sah) but she changed to it's English equivalent, "Rose".

[PJMcK]

27. Abcde's sibling is named 12345 (n/t)

[oberliner]

29. Context?

[BlueStater]

68. Here:

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/southwest-airlines-apologizes-employee-laughing-5-year-old-passenger-named-n941766

Ideally, people should be allowed to give their child any moniker they want without fear of them being ridiculed. Unfortunately, that is just not reality and I can't see anything being done to change this. I'm all for standing up to assholes and bullies, but in this particular circumstance there's really no way to do this without your child being needlessly hurt.

[crazycatlady]

32. I always thought

That when you are deciding on your child's name, to imagine that the child will grow up and accomplish great things. Put an important title in front of the name (with lastname) and see if they'd be taken seriously.

Consider the following
Dr. Jane Smith has discovered a cure for cancer.
Dr. North West has discovered a cure for cancer.

Which one would you believe more?

(For those out of the loop-- North West is Kim Kardashian and Kayne West's daughter).

[delisen]

60. In the 1950s people said Tammy was a ridiculous name, and could

not imagine that such children would ever become professionals.

Yet today there are doctors, lawyers and engineers named Tammy. In the future an accomplished Dr. North West will probably be entirely believable if she/he has what it takes and may actually benefit by virtue of the name recognition.

[LanternWaste]

33. That should then apply to all names.

That should then apply to all names. (Except of course, those on the social milquetoast list of acceptable names)

As there's always going to be a spark of defiance over even the most benign of names.

Every name is a burden. And a blessing. And a cause for ridicule. And a cause for celebration.

Or, you could simply accept that not all names are going to stroke your bias, and that at the end of the day "a very little little let us do. And all shall be done..."

[pnwmom]

37. No, it shouldn't. But if your parents named you Lmnop,

then it's okay.



You can claim it's a family tradition, and not a passive-aggressive arrow aimed at your new baby.

[LisaL]

45. XYZ has a nice ring to it.

[pnwmom]

47. Or XY&Z.

Or, if characters aren't allowed, XYandZ.



Somebody here will argue for it.

[PCIntern]

46. In forty years of dental practice with over 45000 patients my favorite name is and was:

Velveeta.

[guillaumeb]

48. A terrible substitute for cheese, and a terrible name.

[Historic NY]

51. I once had a girl tell me her name Female was her first name

my name is Fem all e . Apparently the hospital put female and the surname since no one could come up with a first name when she left the hospital

[pnwmom]

54. Yes, that's how I would guess some of the Abcde's occurred --

as placeholders in the hospital. Lots of people have trouble choosing names immediately.

[guillaumeb]

55. One of my relatives is a nurse,

and told me the same thing. But that could have and should have been changed.

[Dave Starsky]

85. Nurses see all kinds of fun baby names.

I knew a nurse who delivered a baby named Crystal Shanda Lear.

[moose65]

120. Hahaha

One of my co-workers once had a student who was named L-a. That’s how her name was written. It was pronounced La Dash A.

[Marrah_Goodman]

69. I once processed an application for someone named Thank God

With an equally odd last name. I actually called the person who took the application to make sure they weren't messing with me. It was real.

[guillaumeb]

70. Sad that any parent would do such a thing.

[Separation]

73. Boo to you!

The CHILD'S name is pronounced ab-city ABCD.

How very tolerant of you. So because parents who you will never meet, who named their child with a unique name, that you also will never meet. You are up in arms from what exactly? Are you upset because you read it on Twitter, or the news exactly?

That's just my view.

[BannonsLiver]

77. The name is moronic and will be a source of annoyance for the rest of her life.

[cbdo2007]

78. I don't get the people here defending the name and the parents...

Saying it is the parents choice and we should respect that. There are a ton of parental choices I dont respect because I think they are harmful for the children.

Not giving you kids the standard vaccinations is a good example. It is scientifically proven that these kids are more likely to get certain diseases and pass those along to others if they don't get vaccinated yet the parents still go against the social norms because they have a belief system that is wacky.

This is the same way. A name that is meant to cause a reaction and confusion is a terrible parental decision that will cause the name to be mispronounced and the kid to suffer ridicule their entire life.

It isn't mean to have an opinion and if you are choosing something that 99 percent of people have an opinion is confusing and stupid as a name, they will treat you differently for that reason.

Should we respect the parents decision here if they named their kid "Poopy Pants" as their name or would we be having this same discussion?

[Demsrule86]

79. What should we have a list of 'allowed' names. It was the parent's decision and really is none

of our business. Even here people are so willing to sit in judgment over such a matter. I personally expect paid officials both private and governmental to respect my right to name my kids as I choose and if they choose to be disrespectful about it...then accept the consequences. I believe in freedom period.

[Drahthaardogs]

80. Bullshit.

Freedoms have limits. The freedom of speech does not allow you to yell "fire" in a crowded theatre.

Giving a child a jumbled mess of constanants is NOT a name. This is abusive to the child. It will be a burden to her. Her parents are morons.

Those who said that calling her parents stupid was prejudice - they don't understand the word.

Prejudice is an inherent bias against someone based upon a race, appearance, etc. You "pre" judge them without facts.

In this case, we can see her parents are dumb asses because they named their kid a jumbled mess of letters that cannot be read as a word in any language. When you judge someone a dumb fuck based upon the stupid shit they actually did, it's called discernment not prejudice.

[Demsrule86]

98. It is not yours or my decision and a parent names a child...nothing to do with crowded theater...

You are free to judge her parents as you choose, but you are not free to interfere with the naming of the child or any child.

[cbdo2007]

108. Nobody is trying to interfere in people naming their

Child whatever stupid thing they want to.

We are just sticking up for people who think certain names are stupid and it is our opinion that this will cause a lifetime of grief and emotional distress to these children who are forced to have a stupid name.

For those who think ANY name is a good name because it is the parents decision and none of our business, do you think it is a good idea for a parent to name their kid "Poopy pants" or how about an offensive racial term??

See there were really three sides to this story - 1. It is a parents choice to name their kid pretty much whatever they want to, 2. People should not tease or bully or humiliate people for their names, publicly or privately, but there is a 99.9 percent chance that will happen to people with a silly name, and 3. Kids who do get named silly things have parents who do not understand or so not care that this has a high probability of being emotionally scarring for the child.

[Demsrule86]

157. Airline people can't make fun nor can other profressionals or those involve with the public or fire

their butts.

[delisen]

82. I am glad I am living in a community that leans toward freedom

and doesn't engage in name calling and nasty epithets thrown at people they do not know and whose motive they can only guess about.

Is it part of the rise in authoritarianism?

[delisen]

86. My friends are having twins. She is now considering Abcde & Dbace.

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Abcde (Ab-see-dee with accent on 2nd syllable. Dbace sounds like the Italian name De Biase with the letter sounds D-B-A-C.

They have a list of about 8 names and I don't know what they will ultimately choose.

Already on her short list was Flossie and Freddie. (The twins are fraternal).

Some here may remember Flossie and Freddie as the younger set of twins in the old Readers featuring Nan and Bert/Flossie and Freddie.

Their mother is an English teacher with certificate in Teaching English as a Foreign Language. Their Dad is an engineer who had to flee a
northern Africa country for humanitarian reasons and has been granted asylum

They have a four year old girl named Obsidian. Sometimes her grandparents call her "Dee-dee" for short or Little Sid.

My friends are global in outlook but also have a vegetable plot and sell fresh vegetables in our local farmers market. They are planning to move to a nearby town where the mother teaches English. The town is the most diverse in our state and although relatively small over 100 different languages are spoken there.

They are not anticipating any problems with the names they eventually choose, although another of our friends doesn't favor "Flossie" because it makes her think about dental floss.

I had told them about the controversy on DU about the alphabet letter naming, and they embraced the idea. The mother, who was born here, loves the alphabet, teaching English, and promoting literacy. The father speaks very good English and jokes that he might prefer to have a numerical name himself-but realizes that many people are not ready for this. He pointed out to me that many people with commonplace names are now using numbers along with their names in their email addresses, such as johnsmith432.

I am thinking of inventing a lapel pin that pronounces ones name because we are going to increasingly be introduced to names with which are unfamiliar.

[Demsrule86]

100. My cousin was named DV...and I had a great uncle named Arsby Durrell.

I would hope we still live in a free country and will not be told how raise our children or to name them. I believe in freedom period.

[delisen]

106. I like those names and prize freedom too.

[Demsrule86]

107. It falls under personal freedom...and I think we already have to much infringement on this.

[Demsrule86]

97. I think it is exactly that.

[violetpastille]

102. +1

I'm super boring when it comes to baby naming.

If anyone is mad because they got a boring name that looks good on a resume they can always change it to something creative of their own choosing later.

[MineralMan]

91. How authoritarian of you.

Why do you feel as though you should be able to suggest to others how they should choose their children's names?

How interesting...

[treestar]

101. What do you think of naming the kids

Dweezil and Moon Unit?

[guillaumeb]

112. Also foolish. eom

[treestar]

122. It could be tough to draw the line

Some cases might be borderline.

[DiverDave]

104. Oh, this is SO IMPORTANT

Wtf cares?. All you just get a life.
Parents have been naming kids weird names for centuries
I had an uncle named Shirley.
But, people gotta get the vapors, I guess

[cwydro]

110. I'm not sure what DU is more upset about lol.

The sub teacher who told kids there was no Santa? Or this name thing.

At any rate, it’s hilarious.

[underpants]

105. There are at least 373 kids Named ABCDE in the US

https://www.thisisinsider.com/abcde-name-popularity-2018-11

There are, at minimum 373 women and girls named Abcde in the US. There are probably closer to 400.

[guillaumeb]

113. And....?

[underpants]

114. I'm just saying it's not THAT rare

[guillaumeb]

115. 373 out of 325 million.

About 1 in a million.

We could argue about what constitutes rare, but it is a made up name that might very well affect the psychological well being of the children.

All so that a parent has what they though was a cool idea.

As I said, if anyone likes that contrived name, that person should change their own name and live with the consequences.

[underpants]

119. Yes I evaluated all name possibilities when we had our gurl

If she'd been a boy my wife (using uncles names) was considering John Jacob ______. I said HELL NO. She somehow had never heard John Jacob Jingleheimerschmidt.

[guillaumeb]

132. Would that name require a larger ID card?

[Quixote1818]

111. Louis CK video You can name your kids anything you want

[JonLP24]

117. I can't imagine anyone getting worked up over this

I guess this is like comic books or the olive garden.

[Jake Stern]

118. My partner and I had a simple rule when it came to picking a name for our son

If a potential name was something we'd have to explain to people - it was out.

[guillaumeb]

131. Another rule might be that if you would not take than name yourself,

do not inflict it on others.

[SWBTATTReg]

153. Best name I heard was ACDC for a kid...it was actually on his drivers license. I loved it...

He liked it too. He also had a middle name that was more 'regular', Robert, for his uncle. I think when some folks have an unusual first name, they'll get a middle name that is not so unusual.

[guillaumeb]

154. What might be a suitable middle name for Abcde? eom

[SWBTATTReg]

156. fg? Ha! Take care, nt