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McCamy Taylor

(19,240 posts)
Sun Dec 2, 2018, 07:11 PM Dec 2018

Masked Protesters in France. Are They Russian?

A few months ago I predicted that Russia would orchestrate violence in France. Russia eliminated the UK through the rigged Brexit. Germany is a puppet of the US so as long as Trump is president Putin does not have to worry about Germany. That just leaves France—which has a world power sized army and nukes—to stand against Putin when he makes his move against the Baltic States. In my opinion, it is very likely that the riots in France over the “decline” in living standard are probably being orchestrated by Russia using the same playbook they have used here. Mobilize fascists. Inject a lot of Russian money. Steal an election. Take over Europe.

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2naSalit

(86,502 posts)
1. Since he's only made some gains
Sun Dec 2, 2018, 07:19 PM
Dec 2018

over here, he'll be moving quickly since disappointingdonald is caught and going down...

murielm99

(30,724 posts)
2. I think Putin knew that
Sun Dec 2, 2018, 07:26 PM
Dec 2018

45's usefulness would spoil quickly. A little sunlight causes all rotten fruit to decay swiftly.

still_one

(92,110 posts)
3. One thing I am sure of, they aren't the Lone Ranger. My suspicions though is that some of this is
Sun Dec 2, 2018, 07:28 PM
Dec 2018

is coming from Le Pen and the right, and they are using the high fuel prices as the catalyst.

There is no doubt that Russia would be quite happy with this situation, and are quite happy to encourage division and chaos in Europe. They definitely were involved in Brexit, even though that was a right wing movement. In fact, that is the big danger right now I believe, the rising extreme right in Europe. Russia is in some cases encouraging this, but the Pandora's box they are tinkering with is a very dangerous game


2naSalit

(86,502 posts)
6. Hasn't Le Pen been to Russia
Sun Dec 2, 2018, 07:32 PM
Dec 2018

since losing her election bid? The plot was worked out then, I think.

ETA: And where's that putrid pouch of slime, Bannon? He's been slithering around the planet instigating ill will since he was cast out of our house.

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
5. NYT article said that anarchists and the far right joined the protest and started destroying things
Sun Dec 2, 2018, 07:32 PM
Dec 2018

but I wouldn't be at all surprised if Russia was involved. The Times also mentioned that Macron hiked the gas tax to pay for climate change initiatives. I bet Russia was all over the internet fomenting this shit.

still_one

(92,110 posts)
9. I think that is the most likely scenario. Anarchists have always been a problem in France, and the
Sun Dec 2, 2018, 08:06 PM
Dec 2018

emergence of the far right, plus the history of France makes your analysis right on


Initech

(100,054 posts)
11. I wouldn't be surprised in the least if Russia is behind Antifa here.
Sun Dec 2, 2018, 08:26 PM
Dec 2018

Very similar patterns of behavior - one side shows up and starts talking shit about the other side, fights break out, all hell breaks loose. Wash, rinse, repeat.

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