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ProudMNDemocrat

(16,485 posts)
Wed Dec 5, 2018, 02:20 PM Dec 2018

Donald Trump WILL NOT get such a state funeral such as GHW Bush received.....

Last edited Wed Dec 5, 2018, 03:11 PM - Edit history (2)

The accolades will not be there. The accomplishments, few. The mourners, scattered if any at all. No pomp, no circumstance for a criminal who cheated his way to the White House after Robert Mueller finishes with him.

With all the nasty things Trump has done to people and said over the years, the nasty tweets he has put out about the Bushes, Clintons, Obamas, and world leaders other than the Dictators he admired, the Trump state funeral will be looked on as an abomination. A travesty and waste of time.

As Marc Antony said of Julius Caesar in William Shakespeare's play." Friends, Romans, Countrymen, lend me you ears. I come to bury Caesar, not praise him. The evil men do lives long after them. The good is oft interred with their bones."

The evil that is Donald Trump will live long after him, for there is NO GOOD in his bones.

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Donald Trump WILL NOT get such a state funeral such as GHW Bush received..... (Original Post) ProudMNDemocrat Dec 2018 OP
yeah... I don't see it as anything but "going though the motions"...(and lacking E-motion) hlthe2b Dec 2018 #1
Unless......... DFW Dec 2018 #2
Yes, the Russians owe him bigly. nt NCjack Dec 2018 #18
A nice quiet ceremony with that big military parade he always wanted and the Red Army marching DFW Dec 2018 #23
Dotard owes the Russians bigly keithbvadu2 Dec 2018 #45
I don't think he has friends. C_U_L8R Dec 2018 #3
And the stiffed vendors Just a Weirdo Dec 2018 #6
I was thinking about that during Bush's funeral DesertRat Dec 2018 #35
Don't kid yourself fescuerescue Dec 2018 #4
I respectfully disagree. I'm not a young person, and I have never secondwind Dec 2018 #9
The next GOP administration will be worse fescuerescue Dec 2018 #12
That is a trendy allegation, though unsupported by evidence... LanternWaste Dec 2018 #43
Well I'm not writing college papers here fescuerescue Dec 2018 #84
Well let's say Trump isn't impeached, but loses in 2020 Polybius Dec 2018 #13
You're absolutely right... charliea Dec 2018 #61
I truly believe Trump is exceptional. Tommy_Carcetti Dec 2018 #10
Oh he is. fescuerescue Dec 2018 #14
President George Zimmerman, I presume? nt Tommy_Carcetti Dec 2018 #15
OMG I hope not fescuerescue Dec 2018 #16
Hands down. And rump in the air. Putin's b*tch. erronis Dec 2018 #49
"the current is ALWAYS the worst ever" FiveGoodMen Dec 2018 #26
Oh I doubt that BannonsLiver Dec 2018 #29
That's preposterous. HW Bush was never hated to the extent Trump is. John Fante Dec 2018 #32
91 percent approval after Desert Storm BannonsLiver Dec 2018 #34
No. The current opposing President is NOT always the worst ever. pnwmom Dec 2018 #36
I think Reagan way worse and more damaging than GHWB. GulfCoast66 Dec 2018 #66
The only state funeral he deserves Just a Weirdo Dec 2018 #5
I'd prefer them to be mixed into concrete for sewer pipe. LakeSuperiorView Dec 2018 #80
He'll get the bare minimum. MrScorpio Dec 2018 #7
Yep, and all his friends will be there. ooky Dec 2018 #24
I wish it was Dump's funeral today. roamer65 Dec 2018 #8
I hope so, but our society has an absurd obsession with celebrity. Garrett78 Dec 2018 #11
It will be filled with trumpsters... cynatnite Dec 2018 #17
How about this, we can have him cremated and put his ashes behind a brick Doreen Dec 2018 #19
It will be the Mos Eisley of funerals... TeamPooka Dec 2018 #20
Heh! n/t cynatnite Dec 2018 #21
And I can't wait to see that NOT happen. skypilot Dec 2018 #22
I'm picturing Mardi Gras lame54 Dec 2018 #25
No! Times Square and multiple Trump baby balloons! Hah! machoneman Dec 2018 #79
He's already planned his funeral LeftInTX Dec 2018 #27
Don't just dump in in the ocean ThoughtCriminal Dec 2018 #28
Russia does not have State funerals? Demonaut Dec 2018 #30
He might get a square named after him, though. muriel_volestrangler Dec 2018 #31
Trump will get the same treatment. Because tradition. John Fante Dec 2018 #33
There is no tradition over how to handle the funeral of a President pnwmom Dec 2018 #37
Good point. If it can be proven without a shadow of a doubt John Fante Dec 2018 #48
He will only get a state funeral if he want's one and that's up in the air now. Kaleva Dec 2018 #40
If he has left any funds for it, there will be THOUSANDS of paid actors filling the mall erronis Dec 2018 #50
Just hope he's buried somewhere I can pee on him cp Dec 2018 #38
I think it criminal to even consider that he will get a state funeral from the nation The Liberal Lion Dec 2018 #39
Wrong. The Mouth Dec 2018 #41
Hopefully he'll die in prison n/t malaise Dec 2018 #42
what nixon got dembotoz Dec 2018 #44
was that a family choice treestar Dec 2018 #46
Reagan's funeral was a highly choreographed affair. Haggis for Breakfast Dec 2018 #67
Final Hollywood production for traitor Ronnie ray gun dembotoz Dec 2018 #76
did the post office and the federal government get closed for treestar Dec 2018 #77
It was the Nixon family choice to forgo the lying in state at the U.S. Capitol Jim Lane Dec 2018 #83
Perhaps there will be a gathering around a champagne fountain n/t moonscape Dec 2018 #47
There will be a lot of great parties, though. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2018 #51
Very few will be there because they choose to be. lpbk2713 Dec 2018 #52
if that day comes soon i don't care if they build him a pyramid rampartc Dec 2018 #53
Hoping to live long enough to piss on his grave. (nt) Paladin Dec 2018 #54
Putin will probably give him a grand Russian state funeral... Johonny Dec 2018 #55
His funeral should be him, packed in a cardboard box The Genealogist Dec 2018 #56
Now THAT would be a fitting sendoff....... ProudMNDemocrat Dec 2018 #57
People will come to Trump's funeral Shoonra Dec 2018 #58
I claim first dibs on the funeral taco concession! colorado_ufo Dec 2018 #59
Don't delude yourself. It will either be a big garrish affair or an unmarked grave in Potter's Field DRoseDARs Dec 2018 #60
I have a problem Roadside Attraction Dec 2018 #62
Hahahaha! peggysue2 Dec 2018 #63
Everyone who eulogizes Trump will be wearing an ankle bracelet... Still In Wisconsin Dec 2018 #64
Cremation, a cardboard box, and then peggysue2 Dec 2018 #65
Hah! Good one, see my post #70 before I read this. George II Dec 2018 #71
LOL!! peggysue2 Dec 2018 #73
I think he'll get a plot on Hart Island. tclambert Dec 2018 #68
Trump is the second oldest of the five living presidents. IrishEyes Dec 2018 #69
donald trump will be cremated in a dumpster in a Walmart parking lot. Ashes will be left there. George II Dec 2018 #70
I'll symbolically flush my toilet three times. Once to symbolically flush him. Twice... Liberal Veteran Dec 2018 #72
I hope it's over with quickly. Moebym Dec 2018 #74
Trump's funeral proceedings... SergeStorms Dec 2018 #75
Trump has said that he wants to be buried on the grounds of his golf club in NJ no_hypocrisy Dec 2018 #78
But there will be a very long line at Trump's grave. A line of people who came to Nitram Dec 2018 #81
I suspect for is funeral nwduke Dec 2018 #82

DFW

(54,056 posts)
23. A nice quiet ceremony with that big military parade he always wanted and the Red Army marching
Wed Dec 5, 2018, 03:09 PM
Dec 2018

Красная Площадь ! (Red Square)


The Donald may never have learned to read it, but he sure would feel at home there.

DesertRat

(27,995 posts)
35. I was thinking about that during Bush's funeral
Wed Dec 5, 2018, 04:33 PM
Dec 2018

Who are Trump's lifelong friends? I think he only has employees, vendors and hangers-on.

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
4. Don't kid yourself
Wed Dec 5, 2018, 02:31 PM
Dec 2018

And if that should happen during a future Republicans term, there will be people here on DU saying stuff like "well I didn't agree with Trump on politics, but at least <insert compliment> . and that he's not nearly as bad <insert current Republican President>.

People have short memories and the current is ALWAYS the worst ever.

secondwind

(16,903 posts)
9. I respectfully disagree. I'm not a young person, and I have never
Wed Dec 5, 2018, 02:37 PM
Dec 2018

witnessed a more corrupt or amoral Administration. The GOP of yesterday is gone, replaced with traitors from top to bottom.

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
12. The next GOP administration will be worse
Wed Dec 5, 2018, 02:43 PM
Dec 2018

They always are.

There was once a time when we all said this of W, Reagan, H Bush, etc. etc. (Heck - my dad STILL complains about Eisenhower).

Current ailments always hurt worse than previous ones.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
43. That is a trendy allegation, though unsupported by evidence...
Wed Dec 5, 2018, 05:38 PM
Dec 2018

"They always are..."

That is a trendy allegation, though unsupported by evidence... like most other bumper stickers. "They always are..."

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
84. Well I'm not writing college papers here
Sat Dec 8, 2018, 01:28 PM
Dec 2018

Nor bumperstickers.

So I'm gonna skip the bibliography.

Besides. It's pretty tough to produce evidence of who the next Republican President will be.

So I'm just gonna stick with the tried and true. Chatting about my life long observations on a political chat talk board.

Polybius

(15,239 posts)
13. Well let's say Trump isn't impeached, but loses in 2020
Wed Dec 5, 2018, 02:43 PM
Dec 2018

Let's also say that the next two years are like the first two. Embarrassments, but no wars and good economy. Then in 2020 Biden beats him, and serves two terms.

In 2028, Cruz is elected President. The following year he starts a war with Iran, many die, and the economy tanks. I'm pretty sure many would say that Cruz was worse. Perhaps rightfully so, perhaps not.

charliea

(258 posts)
61. You're absolutely right...
Wed Dec 5, 2018, 08:56 PM
Dec 2018

It doesn't matter what your age is, no one is able to remember a worse administration...

Because there never has been.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,085 posts)
10. I truly believe Trump is exceptional.
Wed Dec 5, 2018, 02:38 PM
Dec 2018

I honestly think he will go down as hands down the worst person to ever hold the office. And that's my objective opinion without regard to politics.

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
14. Oh he is.
Wed Dec 5, 2018, 02:44 PM
Dec 2018

But by the mid 2020's......He'll be the second worst person to ever hold office....And W will be the third worst.

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
16. OMG I hope not
Wed Dec 5, 2018, 02:53 PM
Dec 2018

But I would have laughed just as loud if someone suggested that Trump would be President anytime before 2016.

erronis

(14,955 posts)
49. Hands down. And rump in the air. Putin's b*tch.
Wed Dec 5, 2018, 07:16 PM
Dec 2018

So are the other dumper-fuckers (US and overseas plutocrats) ever going to pay a price for destroying a country/world?

FiveGoodMen

(20,018 posts)
26. "the current is ALWAYS the worst ever"
Wed Dec 5, 2018, 03:44 PM
Dec 2018

With the exception of Ford, it has just been worse and worse starting with Nixon.

BannonsLiver

(16,162 posts)
29. Oh I doubt that
Wed Dec 5, 2018, 04:20 PM
Dec 2018

The reason HW Bush isn’t universally hated here is because he served in WW2 and had a personality that was at least affable on some level. That he had a warm relationship with the Clintons and Obama’s also didnt hurt.

There is none of that with Trump, as the OP laid out pretty clearly. Plus he’s a traitor, to boot.

John Fante

(3,479 posts)
32. That's preposterous. HW Bush was never hated to the extent Trump is.
Wed Dec 5, 2018, 04:29 PM
Dec 2018

- his average approval rating while in office according to Gallup was 61%. He was well-liked until the recession sank him. Contrast that with Trump, who struggles to maintain a 40% approval rating during a bullish economy. There's no comparison.


The next Republican president would have to literally punt children across the WH lawn to be worst than GWB or Trump.

BannonsLiver

(16,162 posts)
34. 91 percent approval after Desert Storm
Wed Dec 5, 2018, 04:33 PM
Dec 2018

I remembered it but it was shocking to hear again the other day. 18 months later he was gone, but I doubt we’ll ever see another Dem or GOP prez with those numbers, however fleeting they were, again.

pnwmom

(108,925 posts)
36. No. The current opposing President is NOT always the worst ever.
Wed Dec 5, 2018, 04:39 PM
Dec 2018

Not by a long shot.

At least in modern history, we've never had a pathological narcissist like Trump. This is a new experience.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
66. I think Reagan way worse and more damaging than GHWB.
Wed Dec 5, 2018, 10:03 PM
Dec 2018

If nothing else his tax increase, coupled with Clinton’s a few years later got us our last balanced budget.

And Reagan did nothing like the ADA.

Still overall damaging, but a slight improvement from the previous 8 years.

 

Just a Weirdo

(488 posts)
5. The only state funeral he deserves
Wed Dec 5, 2018, 02:35 PM
Dec 2018

is the state where his ashes are laid down in an asphalt where the cars can regularly run him over.

 

LakeSuperiorView

(1,533 posts)
80. I'd prefer them to be mixed into concrete for sewer pipe.
Thu Dec 6, 2018, 09:03 AM
Dec 2018

That's the only sanitary way to satisfy the number of people that would like to piss on his grave. All I want for the idea is the rights to a beer concession near where the line forms. I promise to sell Blatz at just a bit above cost.

roamer65

(36,739 posts)
8. I wish it was Dump's funeral today.
Wed Dec 5, 2018, 02:37 PM
Dec 2018

Eat more KFC, you stupid fucker.

Either the fat or a bone will get you.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
11. I hope so, but our society has an absurd obsession with celebrity.
Wed Dec 5, 2018, 02:39 PM
Dec 2018

But if Trump is forced to resign or gets indicted, I'm fairly confident he won't be the recipient of undue fawning.

LeftInTX

(24,560 posts)
27. He's already planned his funeral
Wed Dec 5, 2018, 03:58 PM
Dec 2018

All presidents do during their transition
.
Here is what he probably planned:

Gold hearsts and carriages
The huge military parade that he was denied. Goosestepping.
Huge murals of himself all along the procession route.

ThoughtCriminal

(14,011 posts)
28. Don't just dump in in the ocean
Wed Dec 5, 2018, 04:13 PM
Dec 2018

Drop him in the same spot where they tossed Bin Laden overboard. Or maybe in a subduction zone.

pnwmom

(108,925 posts)
37. There is no tradition over how to handle the funeral of a President
Wed Dec 5, 2018, 04:41 PM
Dec 2018

who is impeached and convicted while in office, or indicted for serious crimes after leaving.

It's never happened before.

How it will happen will depend on the President who is in office at the time. It is up to him to order a state funeral . . or not.

John Fante

(3,479 posts)
48. Good point. If it can be proven without a shadow of a doubt
Wed Dec 5, 2018, 06:58 PM
Dec 2018

that Trump conspired with a foreign power to commit a crime(a), I don't see how gets a state funeral with all the trappings.

My scenario was based on him simply getting the boot in 2020.

erronis

(14,955 posts)
50. If he has left any funds for it, there will be THOUSANDS of paid actors filling the mall
Wed Dec 5, 2018, 07:19 PM
Dec 2018

Probably the shopping mall.

The Liberal Lion

(1,414 posts)
39. I think it criminal to even consider that he will get a state funeral from the nation
Wed Dec 5, 2018, 05:32 PM
Dec 2018

he has betrayed.

If he makes it to die naturally let it be Russia's problem on how to honor him and where and when to bury him.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
46. was that a family choice
Wed Dec 5, 2018, 06:30 PM
Dec 2018

maybe they would have been embarrassed to have the full state funeral

I racked my brains but can't remember as much pomp and circumstance when Ford or Reagan died. Maybe it is family choice.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
77. did the post office and the federal government get closed for
Thu Dec 6, 2018, 05:58 AM
Dec 2018

the day though? I don't recall that being done for Reagan or Ford. Certainly not Nixon, but that looked like a family choice.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
83. It was the Nixon family choice to forgo the lying in state at the U.S. Capitol
Thu Dec 6, 2018, 01:58 PM
Dec 2018

This honor used to be rare, accorded mainly to Presidents who had died in office.

Since the 1960s, however, it has become customary for a dead president to lie in state. You could say that JFK set the trend, although his lying in state was entirely consistent with past precedent. The fellow who really set a new custom was Herbert Hoover, when he died in 1964. He was the first president to die after leaving office and then to lie in state. And since then, every deceased chief executive has been honored, except for two. One exception, as you correctly guessed, was Richard Nixon, while the other was Harry S. Truman.

The decision, incidentally, is made either by the leaders of Congress, or by Congressional resolution. In the case of presidents, particularly these days, their funeral plan is set shortly after they take office, and if they prefer to lie in state, then Congress' blessing is pretty much automatic. Nixon was not denied, his family preferred to skip it, because they felt the "mourners" might be less than respectful. One can imagine a similar decision being made when certain current holders of the office shuffle off this mortal coil. Truman, meanwhile, was a modest and unassuming Midwesterner who didn't want a bunch of fuss. Gerald Ford almost skipped lying in state for the same reason, but his family and friends prevailed on him to change his mind. (Source: today's "Q&A" at electoral-vote.com)

lpbk2713

(42,696 posts)
52. Very few will be there because they choose to be.
Wed Dec 5, 2018, 07:21 PM
Dec 2018



Most will be there because they will be expected to be there; staff, generals, admirals, etc.

The Genealogist

(4,723 posts)
56. His funeral should be him, packed in a cardboard box
Wed Dec 5, 2018, 08:01 PM
Dec 2018

a rousing rendition of "Ding Dong the Witch Is Dead" on a kazoo, and ending with his corpse being launched out of a cannon into a landfill.

Shoonra

(518 posts)
58. People will come to Trump's funeral
Wed Dec 5, 2018, 08:06 PM
Dec 2018

Some to pay their respects ....
Most to make sure he's dead.

Basic rule of entertainment, well-understood by Trump: Give the public what it wants.

 

DRoseDARs

(6,810 posts)
60. Don't delude yourself. It will either be a big garrish affair or an unmarked grave in Potter's Field
Wed Dec 5, 2018, 08:55 PM
Dec 2018

The kids will still be alive, it will be one last chance put up the front they care for their father, and it will be a gross ugly orgy of slathering slobbering praise from the swamp people.

Of course, that's assuming an angry mob doesn't get to him first and pull a Mussolini on him and Melania.

 
62. I have a problem
Wed Dec 5, 2018, 09:26 PM
Dec 2018

At age 74, I hope I live long enough to piss on Trump's grave.

On the other hand, I really don't like standing in long lines.

 

Still In Wisconsin

(4,450 posts)
64. Everyone who eulogizes Trump will be wearing an ankle bracelet...
Wed Dec 5, 2018, 09:49 PM
Dec 2018

Either that, or they will be forced to give their eulogies via teleconference from Club Fed.

peggysue2

(10,811 posts)
65. Cremation, a cardboard box, and then
Wed Dec 5, 2018, 09:53 PM
Dec 2018

dispersal at an undisclosed location.

Then we can pretend that none of this happened and actually go on with our lives.

tclambert

(11,080 posts)
68. I think he'll get a plot on Hart Island.
Wed Dec 5, 2018, 11:16 PM
Dec 2018

That's where penniless people who die in prison get buried in New York's Potter's Field.

IrishEyes

(3,275 posts)
69. Trump is the second oldest of the five living presidents.
Thu Dec 6, 2018, 12:04 AM
Dec 2018

Given that Trump takes terrible care of himself, I think that most of the 4 former presidents, 6 vice presidents, 5 first ladies and 5 second ladies will outlive Trump. Jimmy Carter, Rosalynn Carter and Walter Mondale are in their 90s. Dick Cheney, Lynn Cheney and Joe Biden are older than Trump. The rest are younger than Trump. They are in their 60s and 70s with the exception of Melania Trump who is 48, Mike Pence who is 59 and Michelle Obama who is 54.

Liberal Veteran

(22,239 posts)
72. I'll symbolically flush my toilet three times. Once to symbolically flush him. Twice...
Thu Dec 6, 2018, 12:21 AM
Dec 2018

...to make sure it gets to the sewer. Thrice....because I'll take a symbolic piss on his symbolic resting place.

Moebym

(989 posts)
74. I hope it's over with quickly.
Thu Dec 6, 2018, 03:10 AM
Dec 2018

Quick service, participation by family only, and interment in an unmarked site. No pomp or pageantry.

Exactly what he would not have liked.

SergeStorms

(18,903 posts)
75. Trump's funeral proceedings...
Thu Dec 6, 2018, 03:37 AM
Dec 2018

will be held at a Trump property for profit's sake. I'm sure the kids and deliriously happy widow will want to make as much money as possible from his death. I'm thinking Mar-ma-lado, where everyone will have to rent golf carts and stay at his notoriously crappy 2 star "resort". That's if his kids aren't all in jail. They're the only people who'll show up, except for a few twisted cult members and the government employees who are bound by law to be there.

As for his final resting place, I think his ashes should be scattered by crop duster over Mexico and the other countries in Central America. It's exactly what he deserves.

no_hypocrisy

(45,774 posts)
78. Trump has said that he wants to be buried on the grounds of his golf club in NJ
Thu Dec 6, 2018, 08:16 AM
Dec 2018

Trump Mausoleum

In 2015, Trump received the approval to build a family cemetery at the estate that would include a classical mausoleum. Trump indicated that he wants to be buried at the Bedminster golf course.[21]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_National_Golf_Club_(Bedminster,_New_Jersey)

nwduke

(341 posts)
82. I suspect for is funeral
Thu Dec 6, 2018, 10:55 AM
Dec 2018

He will be pushed to the nearest McDonald 's to lie in state, pushed in a shopping cart by Judge Pirro and pulled by Sean Hannity!

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