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Sun Dec 9, 2018, 10:40 AM

50,000 year old tiara made of woolly mammoth ivory found in world famous Denisova Cave

https://siberiantimes.com/science/casestudy/news/50000-year-old-tiara-made-of-woolly-mammoth-ivory-found-in-world-famous-denisova-cave/


The remarkable find was made this summer in the famous Siberian cave where over many millennia early Home sapiens lived alongside extinct Neanderthals and another long-gone branch of ancient man known as Denisovans.

The suspicion is that the tiara - or diadem - was made by Denisovans who are already known to have had the technology 50,000 or so years ago to make elegant needles out of ivory and a sophisticated and beautiful stone bracelet.

The tiara maybe the oldest of its type in the world.

It appears to have had a practical use: to keep hair out of the eyes; its size indicates it was for male, not female, use.

Another theory, although related to tiaras made 20,000 years later by people living around river Yana in Yakutia is that they could have denoted the family or tribe of ancient man, acting like a passport or identity card.

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Response to RandiFan1290 (Original post)

Sun Dec 9, 2018, 10:50 AM

1. Hide it somewhere---donald trump jr. will want to shoot it. (nt)

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Response to RandiFan1290 (Original post)

Sun Dec 9, 2018, 10:59 AM

2. We keep finding these indications that "primitive" man was more sophisticated than ever imagined

And then note that certain branches of them died out. The obvious question is how this could have happened? How did they die out if they were so far more sophisticated than we ever imagined?

And then I remember today's Republicans, and their attitude toward climate change and war, and think, oh. Right. THAT'S how.

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Response to DFW (Reply #2)

Sun Dec 9, 2018, 12:51 PM

3. Most likely, they died out for the same reasons

that more modern populations have died out or dispersed. Warfare, genocide, famine, exposure to novel diseases, depletion of resources, interbreeding and absorption into another group, etc. Remember, we're not talking about large populations here.

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Response to Mariana (Reply #3)

Sun Dec 9, 2018, 07:48 PM

4. That's true enough

Back then it was more like a population of a few thousand or tens of thousands at most.

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Response to DFW (Reply #2)

Sun Dec 9, 2018, 09:57 PM

5. If they were so advanced, why did it take them 50,000+ years to invent something as simple as a car?

Or electricity. Or even a steam-engine train. Just sayin'.

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Response to Polybius (Reply #5)

Sun Dec 9, 2018, 10:52 PM

7. Take a group of 50 modern individuals with a reasonably solid basic education.

Put them in a place rich in natural resources, food, water, minerals, but no tools other then what they could fashion from a natural environment.

I would bet my last beer it would take these people and their progeny at least hundreds of years to produce a working car, even though that first generation had the basic knowledge not only how a car functioned, but also basic math, chemistry, physics, metallurgy.

Our modern society is the product of billions of lives, over the span of thousands of years, working trillions of hours to accumulate not only the practical knowledge to conceive of something like a car, but also the infrastructure which is advanced enough to actually execute a design.

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Response to denbot (Reply #7)

Sun Dec 9, 2018, 10:58 PM

8. Plus...

Youd have to find a way to make them want to build a car, for generations.

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Response to Polybius (Reply #5)

Sun Dec 9, 2018, 11:03 PM

9. We stand on their shoulders

Ancient humans were every bit as smart as you and I. But until we had a way to pass learned knowledge down through writing it was often lost.

Do you think somehow we became more intelligent 500 years ago?

The irony is that most humans believe in a religion that was developed by people who were not too far developed from the times when a person who made this tiera.

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Response to Polybius (Reply #5)

Mon Dec 10, 2018, 02:29 AM

10. Maybe they did, and were just waiting 50,000 years for the patent office to open?

You never know.......

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Response to RandiFan1290 (Original post)

Sun Dec 9, 2018, 10:11 PM

6. I love this stuff, thanks!1

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