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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
Mon Dec 10, 2018, 10:44 AM Dec 2018

**BREAKING** Supreme Court Gives Victory To Planned Parenthood**

Supreme Court will not hear lower court case which affirms the right of Medicaid users to use Planned Parenthood's non abortion services. Federal funds have been prohibited from being used for abortion since the Hyde Amendment.

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**BREAKING** Supreme Court Gives Victory To Planned Parenthood** (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2018 OP
PP rso Dec 2018 #1
PP rso Dec 2018 #2
Wait, what? 2naSalit Dec 2018 #3
Supreme Court won't consider state efforts to defund Planned Parenthood DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2018 #4
Aren't there like a half-dozen more cases coming up? Perhaps SCOTUS is waiting for a better case. TheBlackAdder Dec 2018 #5
This would have H2O Man Dec 2018 #15
Paywall. Mr.Bill Dec 2018 #6
Here's some of it Glorfindel Dec 2018 #7
Thanks. n/t Mr.Bill Dec 2018 #8
My suspicion now is that Roberts has, and will keep Kavanaugh, Volaris Dec 2018 #22
I think you make a good point, Volaris. calimary Dec 2018 #26
K&R...👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼 spanone Dec 2018 #9
Even Kavanaugh wouldn't defund Planned Parenthood on non-abortion services. Liberty Belle Dec 2018 #10
Note that Neil Gorsuch voted to hear the case. He's horrible. yardwork Dec 2018 #11
Gorsuch is horrible, and he slid right by. LisaM Dec 2018 #18
I'm embarrassed that the shithead is from my homestate Just a Weirdo Dec 2018 #20
Never forget that. His mom is Anne Gorsuch. calimary Dec 2018 #27
"It should have been a huge issue when they had hearings for him" Polybius Dec 2018 #29
Because he is her political successor. LisaM Dec 2018 #31
It's good news to women mickswalkabout41 Dec 2018 #14
Good news for men too. safeinOhio Dec 2018 #17
K&R Scurrilous Dec 2018 #12
That old rule of law mickswalkabout41 Dec 2018 #13
K&R UTUSN Dec 2018 #16
I'm Thankful for this Decision dlk Dec 2018 #19
my secret hope is that kavanaugh AlexSFCA Dec 2018 #21
Yes, Yes and No rpannier Dec 2018 #23
Words to the wise in that last paragraph, rpannier. calimary Dec 2018 #28
Huge, BIGLY victory MFGsunny Dec 2018 #24
Kick ck4829 Dec 2018 #25
The US Supreme Court??? n/t Yavin4 Dec 2018 #30
Take that, bigots. lindysalsagal Dec 2018 #32

rso

(2,271 posts)
1. PP
Mon Dec 10, 2018, 10:54 AM
Dec 2018

Good, hopefully John Roberts will be the new swing vote. He is conservative, but not insane, and cares for the reputation of the Court and his own legacy.

rso

(2,271 posts)
2. PP
Mon Dec 10, 2018, 10:57 AM
Dec 2018

Good, John Roberts will hopefully be our new swing vote. He is conservative, but not insane, and wants to guard the reputation of the Court, as well as his own legacy.

H2O Man

(73,528 posts)
15. This would have
Mon Dec 10, 2018, 11:55 AM
Dec 2018

been the best case that the anti-choice forces had, because they defined it in terms of "state's rights." This is a huge victory.

Glorfindel

(9,726 posts)
7. Here's some of it
Mon Dec 10, 2018, 11:19 AM
Dec 2018

WASHINGTON – The Supreme Court refused Monday to consider efforts by Republican-led states to defund Planned Parenthood. Despite its new, more conservative tilt, the court let stand federal appeals court rulings that allowed the reproductive health organization to contest laws in Louisiana and Kansas that stripped its Medicaid funds.

The court’s refusal to hear the case represents a setback for conservative interest groups in many states that have sought aggressive action against Planned Parenthood and abortion providers in general. Notably, Chief Justice John Roberts and new Associate Justice Brett Kavanaugh did not join the dissent. Three of the court's conservatives – Associate Justices Clarence Thomas, Samuel Alito and Neil Gorsuch – dissented and said the court should have taken up the issue.

"What explains the court’s refusal to do its job here?" Thomas wrote. "I suspect it has something to do with the fact that some respondents in these cases are named 'Planned Parenthood.' That makes the court’s decision particularly troubling, as the question presented has nothing to do with abortion."

Volaris

(10,269 posts)
22. My suspicion now is that Roberts has, and will keep Kavanaugh,
Tue Dec 11, 2018, 01:44 AM
Dec 2018

On a VERY short leash for the foreseeable future.
GOOD.
I have my disagreements with Roberts, but I suspect that as a defender of the court as an institution, he will have few equals (and I can respect that).
He won't be the next Souter, but even if he's in the same ballpark, I'll take it

calimary

(81,194 posts)
26. I think you make a good point, Volaris.
Tue Dec 11, 2018, 10:36 AM
Dec 2018

Remember, it’s called “The Roberts Court.” That’s how it’s referred to, in coverage and in books - including history books. He’s the Chief Justice. So it’s labeled with his name as long as he stays in that job. He may be one of those players who has a sense of history and the part his position decrees he must play in it. Accordingly, predecessor Chief Justice, William Rehnquist, ran what’s known as the Rehnquist Court.

Therefore, John Roberts may be highly conscious, maybe even painfully conscious, of what history will say about him.

I’d want to sit on the new wise ass too. FIRMLY sit on him. And stay glued there, indefinitely. To save him from himself and to save the respectability and credibility of the Supreme Court era that bears his (Roberts’) name.

Liberty Belle

(9,533 posts)
10. Even Kavanaugh wouldn't defund Planned Parenthood on non-abortion services.
Mon Dec 10, 2018, 11:28 AM
Dec 2018

That is good news for those needing birth control, PAP smears etc.

But I still fear what they may do when the right to abortion itself comes before them.

yardwork

(61,588 posts)
11. Note that Neil Gorsuch voted to hear the case. He's horrible.
Mon Dec 10, 2018, 11:43 AM
Dec 2018

That place should be held by Justice Garland.

LisaM

(27,800 posts)
18. Gorsuch is horrible, and he slid right by.
Mon Dec 10, 2018, 01:28 PM
Dec 2018

There was a long article in the New York Times magazine a few months ago about everything the Reagan administration did (or didn't do) that ultimately caused great harm to the environment, and front and center was Anne Gorsuch, Neil Gorsuch's mother, who was appointed the head of the EPA, but had the full intent to gut the agency. It should have been a huge issue when they had hearings for him.

 

Just a Weirdo

(488 posts)
20. I'm embarrassed that the shithead is from my homestate
Mon Dec 10, 2018, 02:00 PM
Dec 2018

Much less then a neighboring area of Hilltop. I am born and raised in Crestmoor Park, and his home on Fairfax and Alameda is but a mere blocks away from my home on Jersey.

Polybius

(15,373 posts)
29. "It should have been a huge issue when they had hearings for him"
Tue Dec 11, 2018, 10:44 AM
Dec 2018

I can't stand him, but what does his mother have do do with him? Should Arnold's Nazi father have been brought up too when he ran for Governor?

LisaM

(27,800 posts)
31. Because he is her political successor.
Tue Dec 11, 2018, 04:07 PM
Dec 2018

If they were wildly different ideologically, it would be different, but I think it's fair to ask whether he agrees with her scorched Earth policy on something so vital.

dlk

(11,541 posts)
19. I'm Thankful for this Decision
Mon Dec 10, 2018, 01:47 PM
Dec 2018

Kavanaugh, no doubt, saw this vote as a step toward repairing his tattered reputation. Nevertheless, think of the countless lives that will be saved by continuing funding for the Planned Parenthood clinics.

AlexSFCA

(6,137 posts)
21. my secret hope is that kavanaugh
Mon Dec 10, 2018, 02:45 PM
Dec 2018

will be ruling differently as SC justice vs. his prior decisions. He can repair the trust by siding with ginsburg in key cases especially casea involving women and minorities. Gorsuch already proved he is just another thomas with no independent thinking but kavanaugh promised collins not to overurn roe v wade; Roberts has said on multiple ocassions that roe v wade is a setted law so I don’t see him completely ignoring decades of precedent especially in metoo era. His vote in ACA case was in conflict with ‘federalist society’ indicating that his ability of independent thinking which thomas, alito and gorsuch are not capable of. One of the bigger challenges is gun control where the precedent is againts us.

rpannier

(24,329 posts)
23. Yes, Yes and No
Tue Dec 11, 2018, 02:51 AM
Dec 2018

By refusing to hear it, the restrictions in Kansas and Louisiana are tossed (Yes and Yes)
But, the 8th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals decision to allow Arkansas to block Medicaid patients from accessing care at Planned Parenthood still stands. (Arkansas, Iowa, Minnesota, Missouri, Nebraska, North Dakota and South Dakota.) (No)


And remember... It's not a ruling, it's a refusal to hear. They can always change their minds

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