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Tue Dec 11, 2018, 09:39 PM

Trump's World

“In the social jungle of human existence, there is no feeling of being alive without a sense of identity. The sense of identity provides the ability to experience one's self as something that has continuity and sameness, and to act accordingly.”
Erik H. Erikson


Last week, I posted an essay that focused on Donald Trump's personality structure, and discussed how various features might cause his behavior to play out. In the days since, a number of factors have been causing more and more problems for Trump, which is no doubt influencing his mood. In fact, on CNN, it was reported that people in the White House have described his mood Monday as “humiliated” and “super pissed.”

That mood is being attributed to Nick Ayers rejecting Trump's offer to serve as chief of staff. It is, of course, due to much more than that. CNN is also reporting that Trump has become increasingly concerned that the new House will impeach him. More, there are reports of an increasing number of republicans in the House and Senate expressing off-the-record concerns about Trump. Add to that the new letter from 44 former Senators – including Democrats and republicans – reminding the current Senate about its responsibilities as an institution.

To top it off, today Nancy Pelosi spanked him in front of television cameras and reporters. For lack of better word, we will now be witnessing the “synergy” of the Ayers and Pelosi public humiliations – feelings that Trump is not used to. It will combine with the stress he is experiencing from the “synergy” of last week's court filings, combined with related court hearings this week – again, feelings that Trump is not used to experiencing.

What behaviors might we expect from Trump in upcoming days? In a sense, obviously, the usual brat-attack melt-down. No surprise there. But it will become more intense than “the usual.” (Note: while I am writing this, my cousin called to inform me that it has already started with Trump's latest tweet.)

Erikson, like several others, noted a temporary psychotic disorder that was found among the general population that was not otherwise diagnosed with one of the major psychotic disorders. Known as a “brief reactive psychos,” this is a break in an otherwise “normal” person that can happen after a traumatic events, such as a death in the family, or even a divorce. It can last anywhere from a day to several months. Erikson said this was a the result of the sudden disorganization of the brain, which requires the individual to re-integrate the sense of self and others, in order to return to “normal.”

Although this is distinct to experiences that some people have had during vision quests while isolated in the mountains or in a desert (or, to an extent, the result of taking too large a dose of psychoactive drugs, such as when the CIA was testing LSD), there are some interesting similarities. Those who have such experiences often use highly symbolic language as the device to communicate what is, or has, been experienced. Thus, Erikson spoke of the need for others to understand that type of communication.

This, however, is not what we might see with Trump. There is another experience, generally limited to those who are known as malignant narcissists, psychopaths, or sociopaths that actually shares some fascinating similarities. Unlike what Erikson spoke of, this is not the result of one traumatic day's events. Rather, it results from one day after another after another of very emotionally challenging days. In other words, when they are about to be, or are being, caught for their misdeeds.

The result is some of the “micro” psychotic breaks from reality in his thought processes, similar to some of the dynamics covered by Bob Woodward's book “Fear.” It will be paranoid thinking that attributes various plots and conspiracies against him to the dwindling number of people loyal to him. He will generally express these thoughts to others around him. An early example of this was when he claimed that President Obama “wiretapped” him – this was distinct from his usual lies, because in his mind, at least for the moment, he believed it.

Rather than having an attempt to re-integrate after these, Trump attempts to dis-integrate what others recognize as reality. Those in the White House will try to keep him under wraps, or in only highly scripted public settings. But from his tweets alone, we will know that he is still in that primitive, deep, dark jungle. And, considering what Trump is currently up against, this is the phase in which his behaviors become the most high risk – both to himself, and others.

Peace,
H2O Man

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H2O Man Dec 2018 OP
Hekate Dec 2018 #1
Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2018 #2
H2O Man Dec 2018 #5
H2O Man Dec 2018 #4
Hekate Dec 2018 #7
H2O Man Dec 2018 #9
Separation Dec 2018 #11
H2O Man Dec 2018 #12
onit2day Dec 2018 #17
PCIntern Dec 2018 #3
H2O Man Dec 2018 #6
volstork Dec 2018 #8
H2O Man Dec 2018 #10
coeur_de_lion Dec 2018 #13
H2O Man Dec 2018 #14
lunatica Dec 2018 #15
H2O Man Dec 2018 #16
MartyTheGreek Dec 2018 #19
H2O Man Dec 2018 #22
coeur_de_lion Dec 2018 #18
H2O Man Dec 2018 #20
coeur_de_lion Dec 2018 #23
Haggis for Breakfast Dec 2018 #21
coeur_de_lion Dec 2018 #24

Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Tue Dec 11, 2018, 09:58 PM

1. Will there be anyone there to stop him from starting a distracting little war?

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Response to Hekate (Reply #1)

Tue Dec 11, 2018, 10:07 PM

2. many millions of us desperately want to hear, "Yes"

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Response to Hermit-The-Prog (Reply #2)

Tue Dec 11, 2018, 10:29 PM

5. Right.

I hope that he would be stopped, if he attempts anything like this. I'm as concerned about his appeals to the alt-right, too. I put no evil deed past him.

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Response to Hekate (Reply #1)

Tue Dec 11, 2018, 10:27 PM

4. I share that concern.

I hope so. But I can't honestly say yes. I'm not very confident about the majority of those around him.

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Response to H2O Man (Reply #4)

Tue Dec 11, 2018, 10:35 PM

7. As you say, we are in perilous times

Don't know if you ever watched the Harry Potter movies, but in the last (or second to last) one the head of the Ministry of Magic intones "These are daaark times." He had a good voice for saying that and it has stuck in my head, periodically replaying when Trump does something else really really stupid.

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Response to Hekate (Reply #7)

Tue Dec 11, 2018, 10:59 PM

9. His tweet tonight

about a potential "revolt" if he is impeached is dangerous. He is not only speaking to people like that freak that lived in his van, and sent pipe bombs to the leadership of our party. He's calling on the alt-right people that he said included "many good people." That is beyond unacceptable. Chris Cuomo said that his lawyers will be upset by that tweet. Every member of both houses of Congress should be outraged.

I think his mental state will continue to disintegrate over the rest of the month.

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Response to Hekate (Reply #1)

Tue Dec 11, 2018, 11:07 PM

11. General Mattis

I truly believe that's the only reason he has stayed behind. He is well loved by the troops and well respected by other military leadership. I've met him myself personally and if the 2 dollar crime boss tried to pull anything weird, I do believe he would have him arrested.

It's the only thing that has been allowing me to sleep for the last few weeks. Because I agree with the OP, I think that it's very possible he could he very well having some sort of "issue"

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Response to Separation (Reply #11)

Wed Dec 12, 2018, 12:45 AM

12. He is the

only person in the administration that I have any respect for, or faith in. And, if Trump becomes so desperate that he would start a military conflict to distract by creating a "national emergency," General Mattis is the only one who could stop him.

I think the dangerous period is upon us, though not only in the context of a possible war. Rigid things often are the first to snap under pressure. Rigid people snap the fastest. And Trump has the most rigid of personality structures.

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Response to Hekate (Reply #1)

Wed Dec 12, 2018, 01:36 PM

17. This petty, vindictive PINO doing an emotional blackmail routine

 

"Touch me and you'll see what happens...just try it" Justice and truth will not be thwarted but we must be watchful to stop this insane man's reactions. Seems all around him are now aware of just how dangerous he could become. Keep the thorazine injection handy.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Tue Dec 11, 2018, 10:08 PM

3. K and R. Excellent nt

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Response to PCIntern (Reply #3)

Tue Dec 11, 2018, 10:29 PM

6. Thank you!

I appreciate that!

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Tue Dec 11, 2018, 10:36 PM

8. Interesting and informative.

Thank you; I always enjoy your posts, H2O Man.

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Response to volstork (Reply #8)

Tue Dec 11, 2018, 11:00 PM

10. Thanks, volstork.

I try to post things that are of some value to at least a portion of the DU community.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Wed Dec 12, 2018, 09:02 AM

13. A rational person

Would see the writing on the wall and pack it in. Develop an incurable ailment and resign. But he’s far from rational.

Diane Feinstein predicted months ago that he would find a way to take himself out. But he’s blaming everyone but himself and he’s completely irrational.

Read somewhere that he believes re-election will save him from prosecution. I don’t understand the law well enough to say whether that’s true but he seems determined to try and win his case via Twitter. As if by insisting on his innocence he will hold off Mueller and the entire DOJ.

He’s daring Mueller to spark a civil war of sorts by prosecuting him.

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Response to coeur_de_lion (Reply #13)

Wed Dec 12, 2018, 11:05 AM

14. Right.

Trump believes that, if he is re-elected, the statute of limitations would "run out" on the campaign donation charge.

In the world of finance, when faced with confrontation, Trump would -- after making threats of his intentions to fight until the end, and to counter-sue -- frequently back down. In other words, he'd hope that by making it expensive to pursue, his opponent would relent. But once someone called his bluff, he lost his will to fight, and retreated, tail between legs. This is what Diane Feinstein was referencing about his nature.

We saw some of his other personality qualities reported on last night. After calling the press in for his meeting with the Democratic leadership, overconfident that he could score points that way, he realized that Nancy Pelosi had kicked his behind. After seeing the media coverage, and recognizing that everyone but the brain-dead alt-right scored the fight for Pelosi, he looked for someone to blame. Mike Pence didn't have his back, and Chuck Schumer wouldn't look him in the eye, according to Trump.

In general, we know that he is without a sense of shame. Yet, people in the White House recently told reporters that he was not only "very pissed" about the Ayers bit, but "humiliated." That's different. It's a new territory for Trump. In a "normal" person, we would tend to think that experiencing a new emotion has benefits in terms of making them more fully human. But we are talking about Donald Trump.

"Humiliation" combined with "fear" creates a potentially dangerous synergy in his case. (Note my frequent use of the word "synergy" in the past three weeks.) He realizes that not only is he at risk, but Don Jr and Ivanka are, as well. It's not only Mr. Mueller, it's the two cases Mr. Mueller handed off to others -- Cohen to the SDNY and Maria Butina to DC -- that are coming into sharper focus. The pressures on Trump are increasing rapidly, and then the next Speaker of the House humiliates him publicly. Yikes!

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Response to H2O Man (Reply #14)

Wed Dec 12, 2018, 12:58 PM

15. I also have a suspicion that Putin isn't answering his calls

but it’s because at this point he’s gotten what he can out of Trump succeeding. Putin never loses sight of his goals and in this case he’s been busy undermining the Western countries. He has the UK tied up with Brexit, and Macron dealing with France’s version of the violent Alt Right and us busy with the Trump fallout. We can’t help but notice that all three countries are busy with internal Alt Right groups rising up to destroy traditional government and societal institutions. And so far succeeding, at least to the point of starting so many fires that the leadership is kept too busy having to deal with these fires.

Once Putin has succeeded in distracting the leadership and the populace he probably has a next step in his plans, which seems to be to allow the Alt Right groups to eliminate the present leadership. He has no personal loyalty for them. They are just pawns. In our case Trump is left to us to do with whatever we choose to do. I imagine that will be to get rid of him. Putin doesn’t care what we do. He knows first hand what it is to go from one of the two Superpowers to governmental and economic collapse in a very few unstable years. It seems his struggle has been to at least level the playing fields down to his county’s level and then gain the upper hand again, only this time we won’t be equal.

We have been in formerly unimaginable disarray from the moment Trump was sworn it. He has been a blitz of nonstop destruction either by direct action or deliberate inaction. And it has exposed our weaknesses.

This may sound too far fetched unless you have a good grasp of history. It’s not a new story. At this moment, after the blue wave, is the first time I’m sensing a ray of hope for Democracy itself. But the struggle is going to be a hard and very intense one. Our halcyon days, if they ever existed are over.

Geez Waterman! You always seem to plunge me into deeper thought! But I feel OK indulging my thoughts here.

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Response to lunatica (Reply #15)

Wed Dec 12, 2018, 01:27 PM

16. In his book on

the topic, Malcolm Nance stressed that Russian intelligence acted in a manner that in no manner covered their tracks. They were not concerned about their role being identified. That is of huge significance.

Corn and Isikoff made clear in their book that Putin viewed Trump as an inferior in virtually every way. The Russians delighted in manipulating Trump's greed for wealth and power. Again, hugely significant.

The proposed Trump tower in Moscow was an avenue for laundering money for the Russians. Then, Trump's candidacy provided an avenue to damage Clinton. More, it was hoped that, by the off chance Trump could "sin" the election, the sanctions would be lifted. That, of course, was required for the proposed project, which was a small price for them to pay for having the sanctions lifted.

While Trump has become useless to Putin in the context of sanctions, he remains of value for exactly the reasons you noted: he is damaging to the United States, and thus to NATO as well. And you are correct -- it will take a huge effort to repair the damage that Trump has done.

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Response to H2O Man (Reply #16)

Wed Dec 12, 2018, 05:45 PM

19. Abt. those Sanctions and Possibly Starting a Conflict...

I have gut feeling that DoD and our intel are not Deep State as the 30% would want us to believe and I say that because Obama's sanctions are/were hard hitting, and still in place. Some force has made that happen. In context, The Don, never got his parade, invasion battle, or sanctions lifted. Agree, Vlad is washing his hands and mission accomplished for him. I think cooler heads are letting this play out and Kelly will be sticking around for at least the next two weeks. Sometimes I wonder was this a slow motion coup just waiting for the "Mullitary" to get it's mission accomplished?

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Response to MartyTheGreek (Reply #19)

Wed Dec 12, 2018, 11:25 PM

22. Interesting.

Thank you for your post.

Trump & Co are, in my opinion, simply a mid-level organized crime outfit, that has been used by a much higher international group based in Moscow, primarily to launder money. Trump is not significantly different from the old-time mob leaders, who did their business behind the screen of a produce store or a garage. The most important differences are that they were more intelligent, which resulted in their keeping their mouths shut. Cohen has been telling associates that he was connected to the Russian mob for years.

Trump's ability to be semi-organized was only "successful" at that mid-level. Each time he tried to go higher, with things like the casino in Atlantic City, he failed. He thought he had a partnership with boxing promoter Don King, for example, but Trump lost money at approximately the same rate as King made profits. The primary reason that NYS authorities didn't bust Trump years ago likely is related to the many donations he made to various politicians.

Once he announced that he was a candidate for president, the lack of the Trump organizing skills became glaring. It would seem safe to say there was a much better organized entity helping out behind the curtain. And that entity, and its coordination with the Trump campaign, is what Mr. Mueller is investigating.

My concern about a "wag the dog" military conflict is more rooted in the influence of John Bolton, the ultra-neoconservative, and jackasses like Stephen Miller, the necroconservative.

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Response to H2O Man (Reply #14)

Wed Dec 12, 2018, 01:46 PM

18. True. I do disagree with one point though

I think he feels shame much more intensely than normal people. That’s why he has to shift blame, lie and pretend the incident was different, do absolutely anything to avoid humiliation.

When faced with a circumstance or incident he can’t blame someone else for or lie about he freaks out.

He literally cannot bear to be seen as a fool. Now that’s really tough because we all know he is the biggest fool in modern history.

He’s gonna lose it big time.

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Response to coeur_de_lion (Reply #18)

Wed Dec 12, 2018, 11:07 PM

20. You are correct

in that context -- "shame" does include being humiliated publicly. I was speaking of another of the definitions, which is the painful emotion that results from consciousness of guilt, which is not dependent upon being disgraced publicly. In that context, Trump feels no guilt. Only anger at -- exactly as you say -- being seen as a fool.

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Response to H2O Man (Reply #20)

Thu Dec 13, 2018, 01:30 PM

23. Yes exactly

No one ever taught the orange shitgibbon right from wrong. He just can’t handle being publicly shamed for being a criminal.

The ultimate embarrassment is coming and I fear for the country when it does.

I feel like Mueller is timing the rest of his disclosures for when democratic lawmakers are in power to contain the nuclear fallout from the Oval Office.

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Response to coeur_de_lion (Reply #18)

Wed Dec 12, 2018, 11:12 PM

21. I think that's what scares half of us to death.

What happens when (not if) he loses it "big time" ? If you've ever seen a cornered animal you know what I mean.

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Response to Haggis for Breakfast (Reply #21)

Thu Dec 13, 2018, 01:33 PM

24. Haggis I think it's okay

because Dems will have the house when he blows. Aside from nuking us all not much he can do.

I also believe Mueller knows what could happen and will take steps to contain Individual 1 when it all shakes out.

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