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Roland99

(53,342 posts)
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 01:07 PM Dec 2018

Cohen! 3 years in prison!! And $1.4 million in restitution

Judge says he will allow Cohen to voluntarily surrender on March 6.

Remember, the high end of the sentencing guideline range discussed at the start of the hearing was 63 months -- more than five years.

While three years is significant, it is on the lower end of the sentencing recommendations

Cohen gets 2 months concurrent for lying to Congress.

Cohen also hit with forfeiture of $500,000, restitution of $1.4 million and a fine of $50,000.

Pauley sentences Cohen to 36 months.

Cohen appears to be going to prison. Judge Pauley says a message needs to be sent here.

"While Mr. Cohen was taking steps to mitigate his criminal conduct by pleading guilty and volunteering useful information to prosecutors, that does not wipe the slate clean," Pauley said.

Judge says he cannot agree with defense that prison time unwarranted.

Judge says he can't consider possible future cooperation by Cohen.

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Cohen! 3 years in prison!! And $1.4 million in restitution (Original Post) Roland99 Dec 2018 OP
Not long enough. milestogo Dec 2018 #1
He's losing his license, he can't ever "practice" law again FakeNoose Dec 2018 #19
Good! The judge didn't buy his BS attempts to gain sympathy. mobeau69 Dec 2018 #2
Guess he should have cooperated more before. Too late now Roland99 Dec 2018 #3
He shouldn't have gotten involved with dotard to begin with. mobeau69 Dec 2018 #4
Not too late. He can and should and must cooperate further and jailtime will help him decide to wiggs Dec 2018 #16
I imagine it's conceivable, maybe likely, that he will be charged with more indictments as wiggs Dec 2018 #17
He helped a traitor so f him BSdetect Dec 2018 #5
Judge says he can't consider possible future cooperation by Cohen. csziggy Dec 2018 #6
The Manafort Thing Too, Ziggy ProfessorGAC Dec 2018 #25
Judge was easy on him, he got the low end of the guidelines marylandblue Dec 2018 #7
Probably won't have to serve the full 36 months Linda Ed Dec 2018 #23
Says who? Da Judge that's who underpants Dec 2018 #8
It won't be justice if he serves more time than Trump. dem4decades Dec 2018 #9
Trump is guilty of far worse. triron Dec 2018 #12
It's a start..... (nt) Paladin Dec 2018 #10
More than three months before he has to report. lpbk2713 Dec 2018 #11
He will be called before Congress Wellstone ruled Dec 2018 #13
And here's some related case info Roland99 Dec 2018 #18
That was huge. Wellstone ruled Dec 2018 #22
I'm guessing you have no experience in this area onenote Dec 2018 #14
Your guess is correct. lpbk2713 Dec 2018 #15
I kind of feel cheated TheRealNorth Dec 2018 #29
How can he hope to pay that back? $1.4 Million! He can't profit from a book... Honeycombe8 Dec 2018 #20
Restitution for whom and to whom? Equinox Moon Dec 2018 #27
I think it's what's owed to the IRS thesquanderer Dec 2018 #31
Thank you for a response Equinox Moon Dec 2018 #34
At the risk of repeating myself Fritz Walter Dec 2018 #21
This brings Mueller's total to about ... aggiesal Dec 2018 #24
$1.4 million restitution to whom? Equinox Moon Dec 2018 #26
My guess? The govt for avoiding taxes Roland99 Dec 2018 #30
Thanks for responding Roland99 Equinox Moon Dec 2018 #32
Exactly right. onenote Dec 2018 #33
Cohen pamdb Dec 2018 #28
Life enid602 Dec 2018 #35
Lock him up ! OnDoutside Dec 2018 #36

FakeNoose

(32,634 posts)
19. He's losing his license, he can't ever "practice" law again
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 03:13 PM
Dec 2018

... not that he was doing much anyway. The guy's career is ruined, he might as well drive a cab when he gets out.
It's pretty bad.

wiggs

(7,812 posts)
16. Not too late. He can and should and must cooperate further and jailtime will help him decide to
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 02:53 PM
Dec 2018

do that. If he does, he can petition for further sentence reduction...as I understand.

wiggs

(7,812 posts)
17. I imagine it's conceivable, maybe likely, that he will be charged with more indictments as
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 03:00 PM
Dec 2018

the investigation moves along in the manner Mueller and congress decide is appropriate. He may not be done.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
6. Judge says he can't consider possible future cooperation by Cohen.
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 01:18 PM
Dec 2018

Of course not - Cohen had plenty of chances to come clean before this. He refused to fully divulge what he knew about possible Trump crimes in New York. Even if he has a come to Jesus moment once he steps through those prison doors, it is too fucking late.

ProfessorGAC

(65,001 posts)
25. The Manafort Thing Too, Ziggy
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 03:50 PM
Dec 2018

The judge can't consider it for that reason either. Manafort promised to cooperate and then lied to investigators and shared information to disrupt their further efforts.

If the judge took future cooperation into consideration, and he didn't really help much, the sentence would have already been laid forth.

So, yeah, the judge couldn't have done that.

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
7. Judge was easy on him, he got the low end of the guidelines
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 01:25 PM
Dec 2018

And although the judge can't consider future cooperation, if he does continue to cooperate, he can asked for a reduced sentence afterward.

Linda Ed

(493 posts)
23. Probably won't have to serve the full 36 months
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 03:34 PM
Dec 2018

but if he does,,it gives him plenty of time to write a book..Isn't that what they all do?

lpbk2713

(42,754 posts)
11. More than three months before he has to report.
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 01:29 PM
Dec 2018



Anyone else would be on the prison bus this afternoon.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
22. That was huge.
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 03:31 PM
Dec 2018

Just caught the read out on the TV,Pecker kind of burned Trumpy in a big way. Learned years ago to read or listen to the exact wording of these statements.

Donnie the dipshit is in MAGA deep trouble.

onenote

(42,700 posts)
14. I'm guessing you have no experience in this area
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 01:42 PM
Dec 2018

It actually is quite common for individuals convicted of non-violent crimes, who are out on bond, to be given anywhere from 1 to 3 months from the date their sentence is handed down until the date they have to report to prison.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
20. How can he hope to pay that back? $1.4 Million! He can't profit from a book...
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 03:18 PM
Dec 2018

can he? He can write one, and it would sell. But isn't there a law you can't profit from your crimes by writing a book? Maybe that's only before you serve the full sentence.

OTOH, maybe a movie will be made, and he can be a consultant on it.

Otherwise, without a law license, how is there even hope that he can pay that restitution?

Oh, wait. He owns some ritzy condos, I think. There you go. He can have a fire sale.

onenote

(42,700 posts)
33. Exactly right.
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 04:14 PM
Dec 2018

The criminal information stated that his tax evasion resulted in his not paying $1.4 million in taxes owed.

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