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Fri Dec 14, 2018, 03:17 AM

Donald Trump is on the verge of committing the ultimate political sin

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The ultimate political sin in America, especially if you are running on the celebrity platform, is to become boring. A greater, more literate and more moral nation would have a greater incapacity to tolerate public immorality but this is America and the ultimate turnoff is not revulsion of character but an inability to be interesting. You can capture some with crass snake oil braggadocio but it eventually wears thin.

Trump's doubling down and then doubling down 4 more times is becoming tedious.

In one meeting he has gone from

-wall is already constructed
-wall is working great
-we need more wall
-Democrats won't let me build any war
-I will be like Sampson and if you don't let me have my wall and let me have all of the credit I will pull everything down.

And then the next day;

Mexico already paid for the wall.

On top of this mind numbing tedious mendacity, a grandiose structure that has so exhausted the ability to measure untruthfulness that the Washington Post has had to invent a new metric to measure it: "the bottomless Pinocchio.



https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/12/10/meet-bottomless-pinocchio-new-rating-false-claim-repeated-over-over-again/?utm_term=.5fc2a86e357f

It was President Trump’s signature campaign promise: He would build a wall along the nation’s southern border, and Mexico would pay for it.

Shortly after becoming president, Trump dropped the Mexico part, turning to Congress for the funds instead. When that, too, failed — Congress earlier this year appropriated money for border security that could not be spent on an actual wall — Trump nevertheless declared victory: “We’ve started building our wall,” he said in a speech on March 29. “I’m so proud of it.”

Despite the facts, which have been cited numerous times by fact-checkers, Trump repeated his false assertion on an imaginary wall 86 times in the seven months before the midterm elections, according to a database of false and misleading claims maintained by The Post.




He thought that once on the main stage he would be able to spin more and more fanciful promises but he just didn't understand complex issues "We are going to Mars", and he couldn't sell it so he kept coming back to the wall 86 times and it is wearing thin.

On top of this edifice of non reality he has added a level of hubristic meanness. Breaking up Muslim families with a Muslim ban, crushing the hopes of America's greatest class of over achievers - the Dreamers, turning law abiding folks from ravaged countries from Temporary Protection Status holders to illegals and now reaching back four decades to return Vietnamese refugees back to a country they will not recognize.

It seems that having been unable to strike up the imagination of people with his lies he is trying to grab interest with a level of meanness that Americans haven't seen for almost 75 years.

Splitting children from their families at the border and now a beautiful 9 year old who arrived yesterday with her father to beg for asylum at the New Mexico border died 8 hours after she got here from dehydration.

It is no longer interesting, provocative, or amusing (and never was for most of us) but is just tedious and mean.

Senator McCarthy had ignited a storm of fear and distrust and ran with it for several years until this moment in the US Senate:



As you watch Welch confront McCarthy with simple humanity the camera spans over to take in Roy Cohn. Cohn knows that there is no merit to McCarthy's attack on the young Fred Fisher (who would later become President of the Mass Bar Association) and tries to shake his head to stop McCarthy. Welch's simple question, "have you no sense of decency" answered itself with a resounding "no" and when Welch refuses to play their game the onlookers respond with thunderous applause and McCarthy was seen as the Senator with no clothes and his days were numbered.

Its interesting how circular these things are. Cohn would go to New York and work for the corrupt elite representing Trump and Murdoch. Trump idolized Cohn and wanted Michael Cohen to fill that role as fixer and fighter. Cohn was a closeted gay and came down with aids in the early 80s and would become an early victim of the terrible disease.

Roger Stone said this of Cohn



Jeffrey Toobin quotes Roger Stone: "Roy was not gay. He was a man who liked having sex with men. Gays were weak, effeminate. He always seemed to have these young blond boys around. It just wasn't discussed. He was interested in power and access."[45] Stone worked with Cohn beginning with the Reagan campaign during the 1976 Republican Party presidential primaries.



McCarthy would die less than 3 years from the clip above in disgrace. Cohen is a felon and Stone is about to be indicted. Trump is surrounded and cannot escape the trap he set for himself. He built a criminal empire and ran for President because he wanted to be adored and couldn't stand the fact that a black man had publicly ridiculed him.

And that leaves Rupert Murdoch.

Murdoch understands a good show and was never tied to any particular group. He made a big personal contribution in Senator Clinton's Presidential campaign in 2008. Trump has been very good for the Murdoch business but once the Murdoch family determines that Trump has become boring and that they can sell more tickets to watch the burning of Trump and all of the family dramas they will turn the switch.

In fact every day one more sliver of FOX turns on the Donald. Shep has been hitting him for a long time. Napolitano has basically said he thinks he is guilty.

And now Fox and Friends challenged Secretary of State Pompeo for being weak on the Saudi Prince for committing murder.

Once Murdoch pulls the pin and there is a shift on Fox Trump's approval numbers will start to sink and once they hit the low 30s you will see all kinds of Republican Congressmen and Senators start to get misty eyed and start talking about the "rule of law" and "no one is above the law".

The real law that they are concerned about is the law of public revulsion. America has low tolerance for boring repetition of lies but it will absolutely reject it when it is covered with abject meanness.

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Reply Donald Trump is on the verge of committing the ultimate political sin (Original post)
grantcart Dec 2018 OP
greyl Dec 2018 #1
CaliforniaPeggy Dec 2018 #2
jaysunb Dec 2018 #3
Cha Dec 2018 #4
grantcart Dec 2018 #5
Cha Dec 2018 #6
grantcart Dec 2018 #7
Cha Dec 2018 #15
VOX Dec 2018 #8
ProfessorGAC Dec 2018 #9
VOX Dec 2018 #11
panader0 Dec 2018 #10
grantcart Dec 2018 #12
YessirAtsaFact Dec 2018 #13
milestogo Dec 2018 #14
Pluvious Dec 2018 #16
zentrum Dec 2018 #17
grantcart Dec 2018 #18

Response to grantcart (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2018, 03:22 AM

1. Hypocritical guidance has confused the masses. nt

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2018, 03:25 AM

2. This all makes a lot of sense to me. You've laid it out very logically.

I suspect you may be onto something.

Thank you for saying it so clearly.

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2018, 03:57 AM

3. Excellent ! N/t

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2018, 04:11 AM

4. Grrreat analysis, grant. I like the way

you tied Joe McCarthy and that gang into it. I just read the other day he died at 48 of Cirrhosis of the liver. What an end to that hellhole.

And now Fox and Friends challenged Secretary of State Pompeo for being weak on the Saudi Prince for committing murder.

Wow! That doesn't sound like the fox I've heard about on DU all these years. More like a 180.. and does sound like they may have gotten the word from Murdoch himself.

And, all that Black Man did was point out how ridiculous trump's Birther LIES were.. right along with his wife's, Birther Barbie. I added that last part.


Murdoch understands a good show and was never tied to any particular group. He made a big personal contribution in Senator Clinton's Presidential campaign in 1980. Trump has been very good for the Murdoch business but once the Murdoch family determines that Trump has become boring and that they can sell more tickets to watch the burning of Trump and all of the family dramas they will turn the switch.

We fervently Hope So!

Not sure what you mean about "Senator Clinton's Presidential campaign in 1980", though?

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Response to Cha (Reply #4)

Fri Dec 14, 2018, 04:36 AM

5. Thanks Cha

Rupert Murdoch is not a "true believer" or an ideologue.


He is only in it for the bottom line. For years the number 2 investor at Fox was one of the richest Saudi cousins and every night they ran crass anti Muslim pabulum.

In 2008 he knew that the Democrats were going to win and (with everyone else) thought that Senator Clinton would win the nomination easily. (just saw the errant date and will edit that, thanks)

He made significant donations to the Clinton campaign and helped raise more:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/rupert-murdoch-loves-hillary-clinton/

With the loss of the National Enquirer Donald Trump's presidency is hanging by a single thread: the Murdoch family.

When Rupert and his sons decide that they can make more money in a post Trump era they will start chipping away and his approval will continue its downward slide.

When Nixon/Agnew won in 1972 they won 49 states and had great power. They also lost the House. Two years latter both Nixon and Agnew were gone.

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Response to grantcart (Reply #5)

Fri Dec 14, 2018, 05:02 AM

6. I should hope the Murdochs

can make more money off of getting the Sociopathic, pathological, lying traitor out of the WH.. who incidentally acts like he's addicted to some kind of speed to get him through the day.

Thanks for the brush up on history and how fast life can change on a dime! Whoosh!

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Response to Cha (Reply #6)

Fri Dec 14, 2018, 09:57 AM

7. They make more money by getting people so angry that they can't

Turn the channel. Once they become boring they lose revenue

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Response to grantcart (Reply #7)

Fri Dec 14, 2018, 05:42 PM

15. Kick your OP!

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2018, 10:28 AM

8. Wow. Nicely done!

You’re on the money about a “Trump Fatigue Syndrome,” wherein all the blatent lies and tall tales have gotten old for a larger swath of Americans, hopefully well beyond those of us who knew *exactly* what we were in for with #45 when he announced his candidacy.

And as you say, the only remaining energy source for this horrible administration is the daily dishing out of blind hatred. This criminally delusional man, and every living soul who continues to support him, are all playing a dangerously reckless game with our laws, protocols and norms.

Historically, most democracies that have tipped into autocracies don’t fare well. Much has been lost already, well past a simple new-broom-sweeps-clean scenario.

Our next Democratic administration will be faced with major repair-work to restore the world’s trust in America. For that matter, it’ll have to restore Americans’ trust in their own country as well.

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Response to VOX (Reply #8)

Fri Dec 14, 2018, 10:33 AM

9. Was About To Say The Same

You saved me the time

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Response to ProfessorGAC (Reply #9)

Fri Dec 14, 2018, 10:45 AM

11. Happy to be of service, ProfessorGAC!

Easy to do.

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2018, 10:37 AM

10. You had me at "crass snake oil braggadocio".

Recommended.

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Response to panader0 (Reply #10)

Fri Dec 14, 2018, 12:11 PM

12. Thanks, Trump is the dominate figure on the Snake Oil Wing of the Republican Party

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Response to grantcart (Reply #12)

Fri Dec 14, 2018, 12:20 PM

13. Does the Republican Party have a different wing?

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2018, 12:24 PM

14. Its like listening to someone you know is crazy but you're still hoping he'll start to make sense.

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2018, 06:52 PM

16. Great post friend grantpost

Thanks for sharing.

IMHO, Murdock will be history's perceived source of the single greatest contribution to the decline and failure of Human civilization.

Such a vile piece of human dirt.

#FuckFox

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Sat Dec 15, 2018, 07:38 PM

17. But his base doesn't

...even track his contradictions. And I've heard them say they know he lies and don't care---'cause, heck, he saved the coal industry etc. They are critical thinking and analysis-free.

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Response to zentrum (Reply #17)

Sat Dec 15, 2018, 07:53 PM

18. And that's my point. His base doesn't have any idea what the score is and have to tune in to FOX


One day they are free traders and the next day they are protectionists.

Trump was even closer to Pecker than he ever was to Murdoch and Pecker just sold him down the river.

Murdoch and his sons are a lot less ideological than people think. For years the largest investor in FOX news after the Murdoch family was Saudi Prince Al-Waleed bin Talal and yet night after night they would broadcast the most outrageous lies about Islam. Al-Waleed could care less because for them its all about Return on Investment.

Once Murdoch (and his sons) determine that there is no more upside with Trump and that they could make more money and have more influence by shaping who the next President is they will cut Trump loose in a New York minute.

Don't forget that in 2008 Murdoch didn't support McCain but supported Senator Clinton because they thought that she was going to be the next President.

A year from now a weary Republican Party is going to look for an alternative, probably Mitt Romney and they will want to have at least 12 months of separation from Trump to start rebuilding the Republican brand.

Trump's presidency now clings by a single thread, the Rupert Murdoch and family thread.

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