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Harris Franken 2024, Clinton Kaine 2019. (Original Post) greyl Dec 2018 OP
Franken/anybody 2020 aeromanKC Dec 2018 #1
+1 /nt LongtimeAZDem Dec 2018 #2
Franken is not Presidential material. MariePinchon Dec 2018 #18
Franken is brilliant and would be a great president. milestogo Dec 2018 #22
And he is PRESIDENTIAL MATERIAL, of course. Eliot Rosewater Dec 2018 #24
I'm curious MontanaMama Dec 2018 #25
Because he resigned from the Senate. MariePinchon Dec 2018 #26
My opinion: No, just no. Especially Clinton/Kaine. Been there, done that. elocs Dec 2018 #3
It goes without saying that Clinton Kaine would win again in 2020. nt greyl Dec 2018 #5
And how is it that we elect our presidents? elocs Dec 2018 #7
No. Trump wasn't elected; he was installed by Putin. triron Dec 2018 #8
Our own FBI played an even bigger role in installing him. (eom) StevieM Dec 2018 #15
Not by cheating. greyl Dec 2018 #9
If you're looking for political fantasies, DU is the place to be. elocs Dec 2018 #12
point to any election with circumstances like 2016 Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2018 #13
"Blaming Hillary for the electoral loss flies in the face of all known facts. " elocs Dec 2018 #16
you blame Hillary while claiming you do not Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2018 #17
I blame Clinton for not campaigning in Wisconsin. elocs Dec 2018 #23
Post removed Post removed Dec 2018 #4
I'm sorry but "F*ck Him?" MrGrieves Dec 2018 #6
Hrc aside, was not impressed by kaines performance dembotoz Dec 2018 #10
Clinton / Castro ? Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2018 #14
Tim Kaine brought a lot to the ticket. MariePinchon Dec 2018 #19
I like Kaine, but I felt he wasn't not a good pick for VP cynatnite Dec 2018 #11
Clinton has stated that she is not seeking to run in 2020, MariePinchon Dec 2018 #20
No Ace Rothstein Dec 2018 #21
 

MariePinchon

(86 posts)
18. Franken is not Presidential material.
Sun Dec 16, 2018, 08:59 PM
Dec 2018

Perhaps he could run for Governor, or continue using his political voice.

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
22. Franken is brilliant and would be a great president.
Mon Dec 17, 2018, 12:05 AM
Dec 2018

Screw Gillebrand and the rest of the backstabbers who threw him under the bus.

 

MariePinchon

(86 posts)
26. Because he resigned from the Senate.
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 12:01 AM
Dec 2018

I'm not sure how you run for President of the United States from there.

elocs

(22,474 posts)
3. My opinion: No, just no. Especially Clinton/Kaine. Been there, done that.
Sun Dec 16, 2018, 10:21 AM
Dec 2018

And if you are saying Harris/Franken in '24, does that mean that Clinton would not run again or that there wouldn't even be a Democratic candidate elected in 2020?

elocs

(22,474 posts)
7. And how is it that we elect our presidents?
Sun Dec 16, 2018, 04:26 PM
Dec 2018

Because if Clinton had won an electoral victory while losing the popular vote to Trump you wouldn't hear a peep of complaint about it here.

triron

(21,914 posts)
8. No. Trump wasn't elected; he was installed by Putin.
Sun Dec 16, 2018, 04:37 PM
Dec 2018

HRC is legit POTUS not the criminal there now.

greyl

(22,990 posts)
9. Not by cheating.
Sun Dec 16, 2018, 04:47 PM
Dec 2018

My little fantasy includes the 2016 election being corrected in some as yet unknown way.

elocs

(22,474 posts)
12. If you're looking for political fantasies, DU is the place to be.
Sun Dec 16, 2018, 06:41 PM
Dec 2018

But we can rest easy knowing that no Democratic candidate, from a presidential one down, has ever cheated to win any election.
That's how we can call out the Republicans.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,019 posts)
13. point to any election with circumstances like 2016
Sun Dec 16, 2018, 06:49 PM
Dec 2018

There has never been an election in U.S. history with the perfect storm of interference, foreign and domestic, coupled with a 30 year propaganda campaign like 2016.

Blaming Hillary for the electoral loss flies in the face of all known facts.

elocs

(22,474 posts)
16. "Blaming Hillary for the electoral loss flies in the face of all known facts. "
Sun Dec 16, 2018, 08:05 PM
Dec 2018

Which is why I don't, but had she bothered to campaign at least once here in Wisconsin in the general election campaign it might have helped here.

Response to greyl (Original post)

dembotoz

(16,734 posts)
10. Hrc aside, was not impressed by kaines performance
Sun Dec 16, 2018, 05:08 PM
Dec 2018

Would not want that again .
A good man
A good Dem
Whatever he was supposed to bring to the ticket...
I would think we could do better

 

MariePinchon

(86 posts)
19. Tim Kaine brought a lot to the ticket.
Sun Dec 16, 2018, 09:07 PM
Dec 2018

Although he was not my first choice, it made much sense.

1. He is a very respected member of the Senate.

2. He would have been prepared to be POTUS on day one.

3. He tempered Hillary Clinton's progressive ideology, and would have been a wonderful sounding board and counsel for more moderate leaning Democrats.

cynatnite

(31,011 posts)
11. I like Kaine, but I felt he wasn't not a good pick for VP
Sun Dec 16, 2018, 05:11 PM
Dec 2018

Plus, Clinton is not running again. That talk needs to stop.

 

MariePinchon

(86 posts)
20. Clinton has stated that she is not seeking to run in 2020,
Sun Dec 16, 2018, 09:11 PM
Dec 2018

but if she did choose to run, she would be the front runner, again.

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