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Tue Dec 18, 2018, 12:14 PM

If I were the judge in the Flynn case

I'd throw the book at him. The guy has sucked of the public tit for decades and has violated his oath to us. It would also send a message to other so-called "cooperating" witnesses.

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Response to Raven (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2018, 12:16 PM

1. Flynn should serve time in prison.

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Response to Raven (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2018, 12:17 PM

2. He deserves at least a Papadopoulos special.

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Response to Raven (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2018, 12:21 PM

3. His crimes are disgusting.

He must have given up something really huge to avoid a long prison sentence because he really deserves it. If I were judge I would honor his deal for 0-6 months by giving him the full 6 months, starting today, and have him led off in shackles like the disgrace he is. He is a traitor.

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Response to Raven (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2018, 12:25 PM

4. Pres O fired Gen Flynn for misconduct...

 

But maybe the line between treadon and misconduct was more blurred than we know!

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Response to Raven (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2018, 12:26 PM

5. ...and the message would be "don't cooperate"? You won't get any leniency?

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #5)

Tue Dec 18, 2018, 04:18 PM

9. No, the message would be "don't try to wiggle out

of taking responsibility for what you have done by trashing the FBI. You should know better."

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Response to Raven (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2018, 12:35 PM

6. Will trump pardon him? Does he still think Flynn is protecting him?

What if Flynn said, I wonít tell him anything they donít already know?

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Response to Raven (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2018, 12:36 PM

7. I think he's going to prison n/t

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Response to Raven (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2018, 12:41 PM

8. Committing treason should mean loss of pension.

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And he should be stripped of his general rank. Traitor.

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Response to pwb (Reply #8)

Tue Dec 18, 2018, 04:36 PM

13. How many traitor American generals have there been?

The only one that comes to mind is literally Benedict Arnold.

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Response to Dave Starsky (Reply #13)

Tue Dec 18, 2018, 04:54 PM

14. I think your right. He deserves everything he gets and then some.

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Response to Raven (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2018, 04:25 PM

10. I want the so-called "cooperating" witnesses to keep cooperating...

I'm not a fan of doing the tRump thing and trashing witnesses that are cooperating. I'm a fan of doing what needs to be done to get the bigger fish.

Sometimes it means being nice to those on the lower rung of the ladder to get to someone at the top. I'm for that.

That's how a lot of this investigation has gotten done. As much as I want to cheer the judge for his statements to Flynn, I also recognize that it could potentially do damage to a federal investigation of tRump. If those cooperating thinks they're going to prison no matter what, why should they cooperate?

I'm for getting tRump, even if it means letting the smaller fish walk.

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Response to Raven (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2018, 04:27 PM

11. Not a good method to work your way

to the top of the criminal food chain. Prosecutors make uncomfortable deals with criminals in order to get bigger criminals. Thatís just how it works.

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Response to Raven (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2018, 04:33 PM

12. I think prosecution under UCMJ is very much dependant upon military 'politics'

I don't believe there is any particular legal obligation for military top brass to bring a court-martial against him, but at the very least his action of lying to the FBI constitutes a violation of Article 133 Conduct Unbecoming an Officer and many have lost their rank and pensions for much lesser offenses. His retired status may exempt him from military charges. If he has maintained reserve duty status I would think he could be prosecuted.

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Response to pecosbob (Reply #12)

Tue Dec 18, 2018, 06:14 PM

15. Well, he's a fucking traitor, so there's that.

The last American general who I can remember conspired with a foreign power against the people of the United States was literally Benedict Arnold.

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