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Can 45's pocket veto be overridden? (Original Post) allgood33 Dec 2018 OP
More to the point-- will enough of them be in town? TreasonousBastard Dec 2018 #1
You can't override a pocket veto Bucky Dec 2018 #2
A true pocket veto can't be overridden unblock Dec 2018 #3
The reason the Senate started gaveling in and out VMA131Marine Dec 2018 #4
yeah, though i think they might have done that to clinton as well. unblock Dec 2018 #6
If he just doesn't sign it, it can become law if they reconvene Congress within 10 days. sinkingfeeling Dec 2018 #5

Bucky

(53,997 posts)
2. You can't override a pocket veto
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 05:05 PM
Dec 2018

Congress can't file an override until a bill is vetoed. The pocket veto is a procedural move designed to veto without vetoing.

It's a dick move

unblock

(52,195 posts)
3. A true pocket veto can't be overridden
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 05:08 PM
Dec 2018

A true pocket veto is just not signing a bill that passed both houses of Congress, but congress goes into recess within ten days.

Congress can't override it because they're not in session, by definition. However, congress can reintroduce the bill in a new session and start the game over again.

In practice, these days the senate at least usually technically stays in session by gaveling in and out once every 3 days, so a pocket veto (among other things) isn't possible.

VMA131Marine

(4,138 posts)
4. The reason the Senate started gaveling in and out
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 05:15 PM
Dec 2018

Was to prevent President Obama From making recess appointments.

unblock

(52,195 posts)
6. yeah, though i think they might have done that to clinton as well.
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 06:09 PM
Dec 2018

i agree that's the primary motivation; preventing pocket vetoes is a minor extra.

in any event, i think they have to technically adjourn for the new congress. i think this is the one time every two years when they can't prevent a pocket veto.

sinkingfeeling

(51,444 posts)
5. If he just doesn't sign it, it can become law if they reconvene Congress within 10 days.
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 05:15 PM
Dec 2018

Pocket Veto

pocket veto - The Constitution grants the president 10 days to review a measure passed by the Congress. If the president has not signed the bill after 10 days, it becomes law without his signature. However, if Congress adjourns during the 10-day period, the bill does not become law. 


https://www.senate.gov/reference/glossary_term/pocket_veto.htm

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