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sheshe2

(84,945 posts)
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 11:52 PM Dec 2018

CNN: Breaking News.

Trump Plunges Washington into Chaos: Mattis Resigns, Shutdown Looms, Market Dives.


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It is only going to get worse. Two weeks before the new DEMOCRATIC CONGRESS takes power. He is terrified. A cornered animal is capable of anything. Brace yourselves.
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CNN: Breaking News. (Original Post) sheshe2 Dec 2018 OP
I think the Syria Surprise and the Mattis resignation cemented the Military High Command to NBachers Dec 2018 #1
I wouldn't bet on anything. During the Cuban Misscle Crisis there was a General, Curtis E. Lemay, still_one Dec 2018 #2
I believe so. sheshe2 Dec 2018 #3
Trump will make sure Mattis' replacement will not disobey orders to launch Nuclear Weapons nt maryellen99 Dec 2018 #5
The Defense secretary doesn't push the button KentuckyWoman Dec 2018 #6
They need to go babysit his sorry ass. nini Dec 2018 #9
It does seem outrageous that an illegitimate president who is under investigation for conspiracy... Grasswire2 Dec 2018 #10
Yep, that and much more. triron Dec 2018 #11
yes, and people on television are even acknowledging the danger of the day Grasswire2 Dec 2018 #16
Beschloss was on MSNBC this AM. He looked like he had aged at least 10 years. A very worried man. northoftheborder Dec 2018 #28
Bolton as head of pentagon? AlexSFCA Dec 2018 #4
That's the fucking nightmare... Volaris Dec 2018 #7
Trump's flouting Bolton and Pompeo on Syria and Russia. Hortensis Dec 2018 #26
He is becoming The Great Richard Potato Generic Brad Dec 2018 #8
:D C Moon Dec 2018 #13
Hee hee hee! calimary Dec 2018 #22
I said this would get much worse once he feels pressured. herding cats Dec 2018 #12
and I thought *I* was a cynic......:-O nt Grasswire2 Dec 2018 #17
I may have cornered the market on cynicism after November 2016? herding cats Dec 2018 #18
I don't think that's bad. Grasswire2 Dec 2018 #19
No, it's not bad. herding cats Dec 2018 #20
I suspect a lot of us do. calimary Dec 2018 #23
My cynicism came, honestly, at the time of the OK City bombing. Grasswire2 Dec 2018 #25
And STILL the U.S. congress (Lyin' Ryan lead) stand with him by pushing for his wall. C Moon Dec 2018 #14
K&R Scurrilous Dec 2018 #15
We're talking about a man who has never . . . peggysue2 Dec 2018 #21
Very possibly. Trump's a coward and timid face to face, Hortensis Dec 2018 #27
They crap on religion and the military. What's left to hurt? Oh, yeah. The ecology and economy. lindysalsagal Dec 2018 #24

NBachers

(17,427 posts)
1. I think the Syria Surprise and the Mattis resignation cemented the Military High Command to
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 11:58 PM
Dec 2018

defy trump if he tries to launch nukes or send them into some insane catastrophic mission.

As long as the End Times Cabal doesn't plunge us into oblivion.

still_one

(93,561 posts)
2. I wouldn't bet on anything. During the Cuban Misscle Crisis there was a General, Curtis E. Lemay,
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 12:17 AM
Dec 2018

who was pushing for a pre-emptive attack against the Soviet Union

Hopefully though, most of the Curtis E. Lemay's are in the minority


KentuckyWoman

(6,729 posts)
6. The Defense secretary doesn't push the button
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 12:37 AM
Dec 2018

When it comes to the military I actually have the tiniest sliver of hope. The Generals have told DJT to go fuck himself more than once.

Grasswire2

(13,612 posts)
10. It does seem outrageous that an illegitimate president who is under investigation for conspiracy...
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 01:50 AM
Dec 2018

...with a foreign adversary to defraud the United States should still arguably have authority to unilaterally issue military orders.

Grasswire2

(13,612 posts)
16. yes, and people on television are even acknowledging the danger of the day
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 03:53 AM
Dec 2018

John Kerry was on the phone with Brian Williams tonight. It's worth finding his conversation.

Volaris

(10,356 posts)
7. That's the fucking nightmare...
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 12:38 AM
Dec 2018

That lunatic will re-engage the korean war or try to invade britian or somesuch...anything to feed the bloodthirst of that thing living on his upper lip (thanks, TheFerrett!).

herding cats

(19,577 posts)
12. I said this would get much worse once he feels pressured.
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 02:01 AM
Dec 2018

I didn't see this coming, if I'm being honest. This is a diplomatic disaster.

I'm of a mind he caved to Erdogan to bury Kusher's involvement with MBS in regards to Khashoggi.

Think on that. If this is reality, he gave a green light to kill our allies to save one of his own. Even if this isn't the reason, no one in the Middle East will trust us as allies again after this move. Which we deserve.

herding cats

(19,577 posts)
18. I may have cornered the market on cynicism after November 2016?
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 04:05 AM
Dec 2018

I'm not trying to outdo my other fellow cynics, I assure you.

I probably spend too much time thinking about all the things taking place, and attempting to connect the dots. Since no one is paying me to do so, I'm pretty sure it's not a healthy hobby and I don't recommend it.

herding cats

(19,577 posts)
20. No, it's not bad.
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 04:57 AM
Dec 2018

Some of us can't help but do so, but (and this is a big but) under this administration things I used to disregard as a fools folly are now plausible. Followed all of this in-depth can be draining if a person doesn't have a strong support network.

When I read Trump spoke with Erdogan a couple of days before this decision, my mind started working through the possibilities of what that may mean? The obvious one I came up with wasn't pleasant.

No matter what, Trump is a fool with no concept of geopolitical fallout.

Grasswire2

(13,612 posts)
25. My cynicism came, honestly, at the time of the OK City bombing.
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 03:13 PM
Dec 2018

I started paying attention then.

And increased with Bush v. Gore.

And that's almost twenty years of connecting dots.

C Moon

(12,312 posts)
14. And STILL the U.S. congress (Lyin' Ryan lead) stand with him by pushing for his wall.
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 02:11 AM
Dec 2018

It's not over folks.
Next up to bat is the evil traitor, McConnell.

peggysue2

(11,043 posts)
21. We're talking about a man who has never . . .
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 06:24 AM
Dec 2018

faced accountability for his own actions. Never. He's played the con and grift his entire life but now he's cornered. And he knows it. Cornered animals are indeed dangerous as you point out, sheshe. I think Trumpski is the sort of man who would try his best to bring the entire country down with him. Out of pure spite.

We need to take Rachael Maddow's advice: Stay sober and keep your laces tied.

Because this is going to get worse before it gets better.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
27. Very possibly. Trump's a coward and timid face to face,
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 03:25 PM
Dec 2018

though, as well as personality-disordered and prone to vicious rages. He's unpredictable and could end up caving as suddenly as he seemingly did to Turkey just now. Withdrawals are not yet scheduled and conceivably might not happen...

Speaking of caving, his two big actions benefit Russia enormously. Wondering when were they first planned and with whom?

lindysalsagal

(21,099 posts)
24. They crap on religion and the military. What's left to hurt? Oh, yeah. The ecology and economy.
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 06:58 AM
Dec 2018

Frumpers are just getting started.

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