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Sun Dec 23, 2018, 01:23 PM

New airplane seat that claims to make flights cheaper would basically require passengers to stand

Italian airline seat manufacturer Aviointeriors has come up with a design for an airplane seat that it says would make flights a lot cheaper.

But the seat comes with a catch: Passengers would essentially have to stand up throughout the flight.

According to Aviointeriors, the Skyrider 2.0's upright passenger position would allow airlines to install the seats at a reduced pitch — a word that refers to the distance between a row of seats and the one in front of it. While a reduced pitch would mean less legroom for passengers, the manufacturer's representative told us that the seat design would still "maintain an adequate comfort" for passengers.

According to the manufacturer, the compact design of the seat would enable airlines to accommodate 20% more passengers on planes. The Skyrider 2.0 is also lightweight, weighing 50% less than standard economy class seats.

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Reply New airplane seat that claims to make flights cheaper would basically require passengers to stand (Original post)
EarthFirst Dec 2018 OP
Pachamama Dec 2018 #1
delisen Dec 2018 #2
RKP5637 Dec 2018 #21
Igel Dec 2018 #24
peggysue2 Dec 2018 #35
customerserviceguy Dec 2018 #39
Tommy_Carcetti Dec 2018 #3
Gidney N Cloyd Dec 2018 #4
sakabatou Dec 2018 #36
itsrobert Dec 2018 #5
badhair77 Dec 2018 #6
tblue37 Dec 2018 #7
peggysue2 Dec 2018 #37
Ms. Toad Dec 2018 #8
ProudLib72 Dec 2018 #9
ornotna Dec 2018 #10
customerserviceguy Dec 2018 #40
Takket Dec 2018 #11
Aristus Dec 2018 #12
DFW Dec 2018 #14
Aristus Dec 2018 #17
DFW Dec 2018 #20
DFW Dec 2018 #13
OnDoutside Dec 2018 #15
turbinetree Dec 2018 #16
DemoTex Dec 2018 #18
kimbutgar Dec 2018 #19
LiberalFighter Dec 2018 #22
Igel Dec 2018 #25
PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2018 #23
Siwsan Dec 2018 #27
oberliner Dec 2018 #29
zaj Dec 2018 #26
hunter Dec 2018 #28
Polybius Dec 2018 #30
jmowreader Dec 2018 #31
CreekDog Dec 2018 #43
crazycatlady Dec 2018 #32
Dave Starsky Dec 2018 #33
customerserviceguy Dec 2018 #41
JI7 Dec 2018 #34
NickB79 Dec 2018 #38
Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2018 #42
pnwmom Dec 2018 #44

Response to EarthFirst (Original post)

Sun Dec 23, 2018, 01:26 PM

1. Wonder if it would increase the risk of thrombosis?

Even in the current state of seating on planes, I think I would just stop flying if this is the future of air travel....

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Response to EarthFirst (Original post)

Sun Dec 23, 2018, 01:26 PM

2. Why not just use meathooks? n/t

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Response to delisen (Reply #2)

Sun Dec 23, 2018, 02:08 PM

21. Or just throw all of the passengers in a giant trash compactor. Imagine the cost savings. n/t

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Response to delisen (Reply #2)

Sun Dec 23, 2018, 02:21 PM

24. They need to be disinfected between flights.

And that would require staffing and supplies.

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Response to delisen (Reply #2)

Sun Dec 23, 2018, 08:43 PM

35. LOL!!

That really made me laugh. Anyone who has recently flown anywhere knows how insufferable and uncomfortable the seating arrangements are. The meathook method might very well be the next logical step. After standing, of course.

Who comes up with these lousy ideas. Sadists?

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Response to delisen (Reply #2)

Mon Dec 24, 2018, 01:00 AM

39. You speak the truth

I will not fly cattle class anymore. If you buy a seat in first class, it costs several times what a seat in cattle class costs. BUT, if you use airline miles, it only costs twice as much. I guess that tells me where to spend my miles, and I can earn lots of them from non-flying activity. I have a credit card from my preferred airline (well, it's not really favored by me, but I hate American Airlines less than I despise the others, especially United) and I'm in the I-Dine program, plus I can get miles from survey sites, so I can get a first class ticket about once every two years or so.

"Economy" class is just simply pure hell, it does not surprise me that the airlines are planning to make it even more unbearable.

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Response to EarthFirst (Original post)

Sun Dec 23, 2018, 01:26 PM

3. ......Nope. Nt

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Response to EarthFirst (Original post)

Sun Dec 23, 2018, 01:28 PM

4. Some version of this nonsense pops up in the news every couple of years.

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Response to Gidney N Cloyd (Reply #4)

Sun Dec 23, 2018, 08:44 PM

36. Yep

Last time I saw something like this, the seats were just bike seats.

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Response to EarthFirst (Original post)

Sun Dec 23, 2018, 01:31 PM

5. Just remove all the seats

And have everyone grab a bar or pole like on the subway

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Response to EarthFirst (Original post)

Sun Dec 23, 2018, 01:31 PM

6. No thank you.

I’ve had DVT twice. I rarely fly anymore. I allow extra time for car travel also.

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Response to EarthFirst (Original post)

Sun Dec 23, 2018, 01:33 PM

7. Like this!





Not much different from this:

"Airbus Seeking Patent For Bicycle Seats In Plane Cabins Because Flying Isn’t Uncomfortable Enough Already"



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Response to tblue37 (Reply #7)

Sun Dec 23, 2018, 08:44 PM

37. O.M.G.

Looks like a torture machine!

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Response to EarthFirst (Original post)

Sun Dec 23, 2018, 01:34 PM

8. Kinda sucks if you have extra short legs that dangle

or extra long ones that have to fold and bang into the seat in front of you.

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Response to EarthFirst (Original post)

Sun Dec 23, 2018, 01:36 PM

9. Install them immediately in AF1

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Response to EarthFirst (Original post)

Sun Dec 23, 2018, 01:36 PM

10. Might as well use safe standing seats from soccer



Can't imagine them being used on anything other than short commuter flights. Won't see me in one of them.

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Response to ornotna (Reply #10)

Mon Dec 24, 2018, 01:02 AM

40. OMG, soccer fans have to endure that??!!

On top of having only a couple of scores per game to cheer about??

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Response to EarthFirst (Original post)

Sun Dec 23, 2018, 01:38 PM

11. LOL

come on, this is a joke right? What about the elderly? handicapped? infants? and how do you serve food?

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Response to EarthFirst (Original post)

Sun Dec 23, 2018, 01:38 PM

12. Nope, nope, nope. Not for me. Whenever possible, I plan to travel by train.

Much nicer accomodations...

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Response to Aristus (Reply #12)

Sun Dec 23, 2018, 01:45 PM

14. The train route frequency beween Germany and North America still leaves much to be desired. n/t

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Response to DFW (Reply #14)

Sun Dec 23, 2018, 01:49 PM

17. I will put up with a hell of a lot on a plane if the destination is Germany.

But for a trip from Seattle to, say, Chicago, Washington, D.C., or the East Coast, I'll take the train.

I don't imagine that the airlines would ever lose so much money that they'd re-think the cattle-car approach. But you never know...

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Response to Aristus (Reply #17)

Sun Dec 23, 2018, 02:06 PM

20. I won't.

I get tossed out of whack by the time difference every time. If I have to arrive as complete wreck each time, I'll take a boat instead.

But when I'm back in the States, I have lots to do and very little time in which to do it, so have no choice. In less than 4 weeks, I have to go Düsseldorf-Paris-Atlanta-Charleston-Dallas-New York-Dallas-Washington-Atlanta-Düsseldorf. If I had to do all that by boat and train, I'd be on the road for six weeks and not even have time to stop to say hi anywhere. I'm too old to be playing Phileas Fogg.

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Response to EarthFirst (Original post)

Sun Dec 23, 2018, 01:44 PM

13. Those will be planes I definitely will NOT be flying on

Even if they paid me the fare instead of the other way around.

I think there should be a Federal law that airline executives should be required by law to travel commercially, and in the cheapest seats their airlines offer.

I think we'd all be absolutely amazed at the improvement in service. It's a miracle!

A few years ago, here in Düsseldorf, Lufthansa inserted one of their executives into the management of their biggest rival, which just went bust last year (pure coincidence, no doubt). Now they founded a cheapie airline with horrible seats, lousy service, and even a hot drink Gestapo that confiscates coffee and tea from boarding passengers (I am not making this up--they have done it to me, too), so they have to buy it at inflated prices on board. They are now withdrawing from the Düsseldorf market altogether, and only the cheapie airline will be offering flights on the former Lufthansa routes.

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Response to EarthFirst (Original post)

Sun Dec 23, 2018, 01:47 PM

15. Looks like someone actually believed Mick O'Leary of Ryanair !

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Response to EarthFirst (Original post)

Sun Dec 23, 2018, 01:49 PM

16. If anyone thinks that they are going to anchor this to the ceiling of a airplane

and to the bottom of a seat track and having to have a three point restraining system in place, or a cross point belt across the chest, it will not happen, a fucking lap belt will not be enough during take off and landing. And if someone, which many do, bring bags on boards that have to go under the seat, this system will not be able to meet the evacuation requirements from an airplane in a emergency of 90 seconds, if you have a body blocking the exits. Then if the poles anchored to the ceiling do the seats go up and down to accommodate lets say 3 foot tall kid being about 6 or seven years old................

And, just think, if you have kid with a car seat being planted on the seat, good luck ...................the revenue per passenger mile concept cost will not work......................amazing.................instead of making the plane more comfortable they come up with this fiasco..........................

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Response to EarthFirst (Original post)

Sun Dec 23, 2018, 01:56 PM

18. Evocative of the Southern Airlines commercial - 1970s

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Response to EarthFirst (Original post)

Sun Dec 23, 2018, 02:04 PM

19. Ugh was on an airitlaia flight from Frankfurt to Rome earlier this year

I’m 5’4 and the seat was so small barely any legroom my husband was practically sitting with his knees on his chest. Thank God it was only a 1 1/2 hours. I could see them installing these seats.

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Response to EarthFirst (Original post)

Sun Dec 23, 2018, 02:08 PM

22. So no overhead bins?

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Response to LiberalFighter (Reply #22)

Sun Dec 23, 2018, 02:24 PM

25. Sure.

But you have to buy a ticket. Otherwise they're reserved for those who can't sit properly in the seats, like very small children.

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Response to EarthFirst (Original post)

Sun Dec 23, 2018, 02:10 PM

23. Midwest Express, later just Midwest

was the very best of all. Two by two seating on planes that otherwise had 3 and 2 cabin configuration. Meals were still being served when other airlines were eliminating them. And two free glasses of wine or champagne with the meal. I only ever flew them once, but it was wonderful.

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Response to PoindexterOglethorpe (Reply #23)

Sun Dec 23, 2018, 02:36 PM

27. I flew Midwest, just once. Loved it

My Northwest flight was delayed, out of National Airport, and I was going to miss my connection (the last one, for the day) in Detroit. So they switched me to Midwest. I remember the amazing, warm chocolate chip cookies. And, they got me home slightly earlier than the Northwest flight was set to arrive.

I always meant to fly them, again, but it didn't happen.

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Response to PoindexterOglethorpe (Reply #23)

Sun Dec 23, 2018, 02:49 PM

29. Everything changed after 9/11

 

They discontinued those meals in 2002 and switched to a two by three arrangement.

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Response to EarthFirst (Original post)

Sun Dec 23, 2018, 02:27 PM

26. People who like standup desks will choose this.

This has a shot at working. Commuter flights?

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Response to EarthFirst (Original post)

Sun Dec 23, 2018, 02:45 PM

28. Roller coaster type seating and supersonic rockets might be acceptable...

... traveling anywhere on earth in twenty minutes.

WARNING!

This rocket journey is a high speed turbulent ride through space.

No child under the age of 7 may ride without an adult. All passengers must ride in their own seat.

For safety, you should be in good health and free from high blood pressure, heart, back or neck problems, motion sickness, or other conditions that could be aggravated by this adventure.

Expectant mothers should not ride.


Hours in such a seat? No thanks. I don't fit comfortably in the seats airlines have now -- my knees hit the seat in front of me.

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Response to EarthFirst (Original post)

Sun Dec 23, 2018, 03:17 PM

30. How do you fit in there if you are overweight?

I'm average height and only about 20 pounds overweight, and I don't think I could fit, at least not in comfort.

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Response to EarthFirst (Original post)

Sun Dec 23, 2018, 05:12 PM

31. Why are they the same color as a Spirit Airlines plane?

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Response to jmowreader (Reply #31)

Mon Dec 24, 2018, 05:36 AM

43. Spirit wants to add a First Class

Coach will be these with another set of these on top.

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Response to EarthFirst (Original post)

Sun Dec 23, 2018, 05:46 PM

32. This reminds me of a roller coaster

Only roller coaster rides are 5 minutes max.

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Response to EarthFirst (Original post)

Sun Dec 23, 2018, 08:18 PM

33. That's killing my balls just to look at it.

I know some of my fellow Scotsmen will understand.

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Response to Dave Starsky (Reply #33)

Mon Dec 24, 2018, 01:05 AM

41. Clearly

it's a pain in the kilt.

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Response to EarthFirst (Original post)

Sun Dec 23, 2018, 08:32 PM

34. standing would be ok on short flights if they can be really cheap

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Response to EarthFirst (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2018, 01:08 AM

42. Next step: rendition seating. Drugged, diapered and stacked like cord wood.

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Response to EarthFirst (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2018, 06:04 AM

44. How many more blood clots from flying with legs at that angle? nt

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