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Thu Dec 27, 2018, 12:24 PM

Is This Enough to get some Trump backers to give up on him?

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142231390

Cell signal puts Cohen outside Prague around time of purported Russian meeting


So if Cohen met and paid off hackers along with Kremlin officials in the late
Summer of 2016 at the behest of Donald Trump will that be enough to make
Trump backers give up on him? Or is the real crime Hillary's email server?

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Reply Is This Enough to get some Trump backers to give up on him? (Original post)
Botany Dec 2018 OP
wryter2000 Dec 2018 #1
fleur-de-lisa Dec 2018 #2
LonePirate Dec 2018 #3
RKP5637 Dec 2018 #4
AlexSFCA Dec 2018 #20
Ohiogal Dec 2018 #5
Botany Dec 2018 #9
Ohiogal Dec 2018 #19
Botany Dec 2018 #25
True Blue American Dec 2018 #32
Botany Dec 2018 #39
True Blue American Dec 2018 #41
Dave Starsky Dec 2018 #6
Kingofalldems Dec 2018 #7
erronis Dec 2018 #34
enough Dec 2018 #8
awesomerwb1 Dec 2018 #10
Kablooie Dec 2018 #11
Kingofalldems Dec 2018 #12
Botany Dec 2018 #16
enid602 Dec 2018 #13
BlueJac Dec 2018 #14
lunasun Dec 2018 #15
mwooldri Dec 2018 #17
UpInArms Dec 2018 #18
Heartstrings Dec 2018 #21
niyad Dec 2018 #22
Kingofalldems Dec 2018 #23
Golden Raisin Dec 2018 #24
Pacifist Patriot Dec 2018 #26
Botany Dec 2018 #28
guillaumeb Dec 2018 #27
matt819 Dec 2018 #29
Vinca Dec 2018 #30
handmade34 Dec 2018 #31
Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2018 #33
dalton99a Dec 2018 #36
dalton99a Dec 2018 #35
NastyRiffraff Dec 2018 #37
VOX Dec 2018 #38
malaise Dec 2018 #40

Response to Botany (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2018, 12:27 PM

1. Sadly, no

Did you see the signs that said, "I'd rather be Russian than a Democrat"?

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2018, 12:27 PM

2. It is a huge deal to those of us who closely follow the Mueller investigation.

To the rubes who worship Cheeto, it will mean nothing. Shitler will say "it has nothing to do with me" and the TrumpHumpers will agree. Sad!

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2018, 12:29 PM

3. Unless he disavows and repents for his racism, his base will never leave him.

Cohen being in Prague and everything in the Steele Doosier being true will not change his base’s opinion of him. They do not care about how he won. They only care that he is a dumb racist just like they are.

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Response to LonePirate (Reply #3)

Thu Dec 27, 2018, 12:33 PM

4. To me, that is consistently the greatest shared value between tRump and his supporters. And what

they cheer loudest for at his rallies. Other supporters are primarily concerned about $$$$$'s and what he brings/might bring them.

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Response to LonePirate (Reply #3)

Thu Dec 27, 2018, 01:21 PM

20. 100% agree

E.g., if he decides to soften his immogration stance, that would be the only way for him to lose his supporters. As far as DNC e-mail, they actually support the hacking cause “dems are not people”.

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2018, 12:37 PM

5. The majority of them

think Russia did us all a big favor conspiring to get Trump elected by any means possible. So, no.

The depths of their brainwashing is bottomless.

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Response to Ohiogal (Reply #5)

Thu Dec 27, 2018, 12:50 PM

9. "The depths of their brainwashing is bottomless."

I was eating a meal @ a local pub* the other day and the guy in the both behind me
kept going on and on to the man he was sitting w/ about how much money "the O man"
had stolen from him in the past 8 years.

* Clintonville area of Columbus, OH

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Response to Botany (Reply #9)

Thu Dec 27, 2018, 01:15 PM

19. You showed remarkable restraint

Not hauling off and punching him in the face.

I assume you did not, anyway. lol

Ohio has our share of MAGAidiots, for sure

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Response to Ohiogal (Reply #19)

Thu Dec 27, 2018, 01:37 PM

25. He is a regular @ the bar and a big Fox watcher too. Nothing will help him

Besides he is really big too.

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Response to Botany (Reply #9)

Thu Dec 27, 2018, 03:17 PM

32. That area is Republican to the core, but a Democrat came close this time.

Columbus was Kasich’s district, gerrymandered clear up to Marion.

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Response to True Blue American (Reply #32)

Thu Dec 27, 2018, 06:07 PM

39. Not my area ... we are blue but the gerrymandering is massive

n/t

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Response to Ohiogal (Reply #5)

Fri Dec 28, 2018, 02:22 AM

41. You said it.

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2018, 12:41 PM

6. He can roast and eat an an infant on live TV.

His followers couldn't care less. They are a cult.

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2018, 12:42 PM

7. Kick for the conservative thinks tanks lurking here.

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Response to Kingofalldems (Reply #7)

Thu Dec 27, 2018, 03:20 PM

34. And many within those think tanks understand and agree with what we are saying.

But that's not their job - to try to correct the course of their mission and leadership. Basically, they're in it for the money and the access to power.

And to be able to write yet another tiresome story about what they witnessed and what truth really is, this time really.

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2018, 12:47 PM

8. No. They're not following this stuff, and they wouldn't care if they knew. NT

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2018, 12:51 PM

10. I think you already know the answer to that question

There is nothing he can do to get most MAGAts to stop worshipping him.

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2018, 12:52 PM

11. This is evidence. Evidence is not considered by Trump supporters.

They react from pure emotion and tribalism.
No amount of evidence would Change their opinions.

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2018, 12:52 PM

12. Wasn't Melania or the Princess there too?

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Response to Kingofalldems (Reply #12)

Thu Dec 27, 2018, 01:03 PM

16. The story is that both Jared and Ivanka were in Prague too.

As of now it is just an internet story now. But we do have pictures of
both Jared and Ivanka in Europe around that time.

The famous picture of Wendy Deng (Vlad's girlfriend and the former Mrs. Murdoch)
and Ivanka in Sofia, Bulgaria was from around that time.

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2018, 12:53 PM

13. Convince

If this doesn’t convince them there’s always Deutschebank/loans, Epstein/Katie Johnson, Rosneft/Putin/brokerage fee and Falwell, Jr/Pool boy/blackmail.

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2018, 12:56 PM

14. No way...

they could care less, they are all waiting for the return of Christ!

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2018, 12:58 PM

15. Hillary . Please c'mon now do you know nothing about deplorables ?

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2018, 01:11 PM

17. In the fact-free zone? Naaa.....

When you have Republican senators privately tell outgoing senator Claire McCaskill that Trump is nuts but they still support him... that tells you all you need to know about the cult of Trump.

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2018, 01:13 PM

18. ....

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2018, 01:25 PM

21. Nope, it'll be just another

Fore! Just playing through....

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2018, 01:25 PM

22. kool-ade drinkers all.

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2018, 01:30 PM

23. Kick this one.

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2018, 01:35 PM

24. No. Deplorable to the end. Doubtful any of them

could point out Prague (or Czech Republic) on a map. And that goes for Trump too.

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2018, 01:38 PM

26. No. It requires a complexity of thinking they don't possess and don't want to possess.

It's just an inconvenient fact they can tell themselves is fake or, if real, doesn't matter anyway.

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Response to Pacifist Patriot (Reply #26)

Thu Dec 27, 2018, 01:45 PM

28. I wonder when Bob Mueller shows them pictures and tapes of Cohen paying off Russian Hackers in ...

.... in Prague in order to rig the elections how many will tune into Rush/Hannity to learn the real
truth and that this is all a deep state conspiracy being spread through Hillary's email server and
the liberal media to make Trump look bad.

Do you ever stop to think this is the biggest criminal operation in the history of the world?

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2018, 01:41 PM

27. No.

The real crime is that many Trump supporters are deplorable.

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2018, 02:17 PM

29. He could appear at one of his rallies

in a Hitler uniform, complete with black mustache and swastika banners, and they would still cheer, adding Sieg Heil to their chants. So, no, nothing will change their minds. Not when the Secretary of State talks about fighting until the rapture and they all keep fear mongering about black and brown people. Not when the Big Lies keep coming, and even as they keep changing. They are going to remain steadfast in their cultish obsession.

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2018, 02:27 PM

30. Nothing will alienate is cult base. He could BBQ kittens in the Rose Garden and they'd swoon.

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2018, 02:29 PM

31. "Trump backers"

don't know what "Prague" is, and besides,what does it have to do with maga??

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2018, 03:19 PM

33. Nope. Example:


I am sorry, but this strikes me as false. This guy has a passport, he would have had to go through customs and fill out a form. They know when he left the country and when he came back, if he ever went to meeting out of the country. It’s not complex. “His cellphone was there” means nothing without his passport and person registered.

This is all about the “Russia Russia Russia”, so they don’t have to face the music about political spying with Federal government assets.

12 posted on 12/27/2018, 2:50:39 PM by Pete Dovgan


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Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #33)

Thu Dec 27, 2018, 03:24 PM

36. +1. What an ignorant idiot

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2018, 03:21 PM

35. They don't care, and they don't want to know.

Trump did nothing wrong, and can do no wrong

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2018, 03:25 PM

37. Nope

They won't understand the significance. Even if Trump himself had been in Prague for a secret Russian meeting they wouldn't care.

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2018, 04:20 PM

38. Trumpists are a CULT, existing in a manufactured alternate reality, impervious to objective facts.

There is NOTHING that would make Trumpists turn away from their leader.

The right-wing feedback system (Fox, hate radio, Russian trolls, etc.) reinforces daily their delusional beliefs, with non-stop florid tales of the latest attacks to malign and undermine their heroic, embattled Leader, who is fighting a desperate, defensive campaign against the Soros-funded, Obama/Clinton-led, godless, “Deep State” Democrat (sic) pedophile Armies of Darkness.

Sound insane? Of course it does, because it is. Sound far-fetched? Spend an hour reading Breitbart, or watch 10 minutes of Hannity. Take a dervish-spin through social media, using the search terms “patriot” and “liberty,” and read the unbridled, bottomless hatred in the user comments.

If you do, you’ll see that my first paragraph above is actually the lighter fare. American democracy is in deep trouble.

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2018, 06:10 PM

40. I think his lie about the 10% salary increase or the military will

Do more damage than anything else. That's the one that will finish him off.

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