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Sat Dec 29, 2018, 09:19 AM

 

How about DACA and Medicare for all for 5 billion for the wall?

Sounds good to me.

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Reply How about DACA and Medicare for all for 5 billion for the wall? (Original post)
allgood33 Dec 2018 OP
beachbum bob Dec 2018 #1
Sherman A1 Dec 2018 #2
vlyons Dec 2018 #3
panader0 Dec 2018 #5
allgood33 Dec 2018 #6
thucythucy Dec 2018 #8
panader0 Dec 2018 #4
bearsfootball516 Dec 2018 #7
Squinch Dec 2018 #9
ooky Dec 2018 #10
Electrical Arc Dec 2018 #11
leftyladyfrommo Dec 2018 #12
Takket Dec 2018 #13
snowybirdie Dec 2018 #14

Response to allgood33 (Original post)

Sat Dec 29, 2018, 09:20 AM

1. I doubt any GOP'er would ever agree to that, ever

 

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Response to allgood33 (Original post)

Sat Dec 29, 2018, 09:23 AM

2. In my opinion.

NO

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Response to allgood33 (Original post)

Sat Dec 29, 2018, 09:27 AM

3. no wall, no way

A $5 billion wall will not cost $5 billion. There would be enormous cost over-runs, because you know that Trump will give the contracts to corrupt businessmen, who will pad expenses and use cheap materials. Moreover, a wall along the border would be an ecological disaster. It will not prevent illegal visa-overstays, which are the majority of illegals in this country. That $5 billion could be spent better elsewhere, e.g. subsidizing broadband in rural areas, college scholarships, rural ERs, school lunches, etc etc.

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Response to vlyons (Reply #3)

Sat Dec 29, 2018, 09:29 AM

5. Some estimates place the cost at 70 billion.

But it will never happen.

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Response to vlyons (Reply #3)

Sat Dec 29, 2018, 09:39 AM

6. We all know that any law can be overturned by Congress.

 

Any emergency can stop a wall being built.

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Response to allgood33 (Reply #6)

Sat Dec 29, 2018, 10:14 AM

8. No we don't.

Congress doesn't "overturn" laws--the courts do.

Congress can repeal a law, but both houses have to agree, and the president has to sign. If the president vetoes the repeal then it requires a two thirds vote in both chambers to overturn the veto.

And as to your OP, the no way in hell the GOP or Trump will agree to Medicare for All. They already had a chance to do DACA and they refused.

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Response to allgood33 (Original post)

Sat Dec 29, 2018, 09:44 AM

7. No.

No wall.

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Response to allgood33 (Original post)

Sat Dec 29, 2018, 10:16 AM

9. Gosh. You're just a font of right wing talking points, aren't you?

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=11600767

You really want that wall, don't you?

You might want to give that persona a little work.

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Response to allgood33 (Original post)

Sat Dec 29, 2018, 10:45 AM

10. If we could buy DACA alone for 5 billion I expect we would jump on it.

But since Trump already rejected DACA for 20 billion I don't see DACA for 5 billion happening, leaving Trump looking stupid. There wouldn't be enough votes in the Senate either if DACA is attached.

The only solution I see happening is a clean, non-wall CR with a congressional overide of Trump's inevitable veto. Neither Pelosi or Schumer will give a dime more than they have alredy offered unless they get something in return, and nothing in return is being offered.

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Response to allgood33 (Original post)

Sat Dec 29, 2018, 10:49 AM

11. Zero dollars for the wall

 

Period.

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Response to allgood33 (Original post)

Sat Dec 29, 2018, 11:15 AM

12. No wall.

It is an ecological disaster.

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Response to allgood33 (Original post)

Sat Dec 29, 2018, 11:19 AM

13. I would make that deal in a second

Waste 5 billion for a program that will save the country trillions? Sign me up.

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Response to allgood33 (Original post)

Sat Dec 29, 2018, 11:46 AM

14. No!

Why forsake right and moral principles so that idiot can declare victory! Victory over an idea that robs this country of treasure for a ridiculous idea. Please rethink your position if you self describe yourself as a Democrat!

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