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Mon Dec 31, 2018, 11:19 AM

My thoughts. After Rump i'm thinking the president has way too much power!!!

This has to change! I'm not sure how BUT really when we get full control again, THIS needs to be addressed!!! I just never realized before that ONE person has this kind of power!! Any Thoughts here?

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Reply My thoughts. After Rump i'm thinking the president has way too much power!!! (Original post)
bluestarone Dec 2018 OP
sunonmars Dec 2018 #1
bluestarone Dec 2018 #3
samnsara Dec 2018 #2
bluestarone Dec 2018 #5
manor321 Dec 2018 #4
bluestarone Dec 2018 #6
dalton99a Dec 2018 #7
Mystery sage Dec 2018 #8
bluestarone Dec 2018 #9
shanny Dec 2018 #17
bluestarone Dec 2018 #19
shanny Dec 2018 #21
elocs Dec 2018 #23
bluestarone Dec 2018 #31
Butterflylady Dec 2018 #10
lostnfound Jan 2019 #35
dem in texas Dec 2018 #11
bluestarone Dec 2018 #12
csziggy Dec 2018 #25
Goodheart Dec 2018 #13
bluestarone Dec 2018 #14
shanny Dec 2018 #18
Golden Raisin Dec 2018 #15
bluestarone Dec 2018 #16
shanny Dec 2018 #20
elocs Dec 2018 #22
bluestarone Dec 2018 #28
blueinredohio Dec 2018 #24
Eliot Rosewater Dec 2018 #26
bluestarone Dec 2018 #29
AJT Dec 2018 #27
bluestarone Dec 2018 #30
unblock Dec 2018 #32
SWBTATTReg Dec 2018 #33
defacto7 Dec 2018 #34

Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Mon Dec 31, 2018, 11:21 AM

1. Certainly some stuff needs to be changed..... limiting pardoning power for one

the list could go on and on.

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Response to sunonmars (Reply #1)

Mon Dec 31, 2018, 11:22 AM

3. yea for sure!!

The LIST is huge!!!!

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Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Mon Dec 31, 2018, 11:22 AM

2. same here! I never worried about it with any of our dems prez or some of the sane GOPs..

..but now I think some of the powers could be cut back and a lot of the prez with morals and common sense wouldn't even miss them.

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Response to samnsara (Reply #2)

Mon Dec 31, 2018, 11:26 AM

5. Real proof of the power comes out when

The person is INSANE (like RUMP) THAT'S when the power really really show up! (NO GOOD CONGRESS doesn't help tho) Perfect storm here!!

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Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Mon Dec 31, 2018, 11:23 AM

4. Yes, Congress needs to take back some power it had

 

For example trade wars should not be so easily waged by Presidents.

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Response to manor321 (Reply #4)

Mon Dec 31, 2018, 11:26 AM

6. Agree!!!

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Response to manor321 (Reply #4)

Mon Dec 31, 2018, 11:27 AM

7. +1. Definitely trade wars.

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Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Mon Dec 31, 2018, 11:33 AM

8. Many things of his need to be limited but for right now..

If possible his foreign policy powers, yes he will do more damage at home and lie like always but then his being a servant of Putin and Kim will be at an end because he would have to go through Congress and even Republicans Won't obey a request like remove the armed forces or sign some other dangerous crap.

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Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Mon Dec 31, 2018, 12:13 PM

9. To add here

I'd like to change the rules in the impeachment process! The rules in the senate should be the same as in the House! Why do we need two thirds majority vote to convict?

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Response to bluestarone (Reply #9)

Mon Dec 31, 2018, 01:12 PM

17. It's the Constitution, not a "rule"

 

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Response to shanny (Reply #17)

Mon Dec 31, 2018, 01:19 PM

19. True BUT it needs to be changed!!

When we have power to do so!

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Response to bluestarone (Reply #19)

Mon Dec 31, 2018, 01:21 PM

21. Absolutely.

 

But if we're changing things I think we ought to get rid of the Senate altogether.

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Response to elocs (Reply #23)

Mon Dec 31, 2018, 02:33 PM

31. Agree it won't be easy BUT

You know what we are living in UNCHARTED times!! WE really have to do something BIG when we get control of EVERYTHING!!!!!!!

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Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Mon Dec 31, 2018, 12:23 PM

10. What needs to changed is who run for president.

Right now it's age requirement and natural born citizenship. There needs to be some sort of vetting process or more requirements. Anything so this horror does not happen again.

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Response to Butterflylady (Reply #10)

Tue Jan 1, 2019, 08:40 AM

35. What needs change is punishments / justice against conmen and criminals

Why did he have to be president before the egregious fraud became revealed?

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Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Mon Dec 31, 2018, 12:25 PM

11. Congress has the power to stop the Fat Turd, but they are too weak. Hope better for 2019

If we had a better congress, they would have stood up to the President on many items, the wall, the tariffs, pulling troops out of Syria, etc. That said, laws do need to be passed such a president must show tax returns, all investments must be placed in blind trust, no appointing family members to security and cabinet level posts, etc.

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Response to dem in texas (Reply #11)

Mon Dec 31, 2018, 12:31 PM

12. All this would help for sure!!!

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Response to dem in texas (Reply #11)

Mon Dec 31, 2018, 01:54 PM

25. Congress is not too weak, they are complicit

Hopefully that will change in the House in a few days.

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Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Mon Dec 31, 2018, 12:38 PM

13. Pardon power needs to be curbed, as well as the power to oversee investigations of himself.

Aside from that, I think the Senate has too much power vs. the House.

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Response to Goodheart (Reply #13)

Mon Dec 31, 2018, 12:44 PM

14. Agree!

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Response to Goodheart (Reply #13)

Mon Dec 31, 2018, 01:19 PM

18. Absolutely it does.

 

And that's without even considering that the 25 least-populated states (comprising 15-16% of the population) elect half the Senate. To hammer that point home, 50%+1 voters (8% of the population!) in those states elect HALF the Senate...actually it is even WORSE than that because in some states you don't even need 50% to win, only the most votes.

The Senate is a bullshit institution, and--Sorry Founders!--always was. It only exists to keep the lid on populist desires (don't want the masses gettin' out of control and votin' for, say, universal health care).

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Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Mon Dec 31, 2018, 12:54 PM

15. It might have helped a little if we did not have

for the last 2 years a complicit Republican Congress who either stood by silently, or worse, aided and abetted a President with imperial notions/delusions.

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Response to Golden Raisin (Reply #15)

Mon Dec 31, 2018, 12:56 PM

16. perfect storm for sure!!!

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Response to Golden Raisin (Reply #15)

Mon Dec 31, 2018, 01:20 PM

20. I agree

 

although Congress has been shirking its duty on war powers etc for a LONG TIME.

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Response to elocs (Reply #22)

Mon Dec 31, 2018, 02:30 PM

28. Yea i hate that fkn Walker

Almost as much as i hate NUNES!!

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Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Mon Dec 31, 2018, 01:51 PM

24. Agreed 1000 percent!!!

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Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Mon Dec 31, 2018, 01:57 PM

26. IN the hands of a good person, pattriot, like Obama or Hillary or most dems

it is not the problem that it is now but NO MATTER
who is prez, it is a potential problem especially pardon powers

Pardon powers must be revised to not apply to any matters involving the prez or his administration.

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #26)

Mon Dec 31, 2018, 02:30 PM

29. EXACTLY!!!

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Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Mon Dec 31, 2018, 02:04 PM

27. It will change.....when the next dem president is elected

the GOP will howl that the president is trying to be a dictator and has too much power.

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Response to AJT (Reply #27)

Mon Dec 31, 2018, 02:31 PM

30. Oh you know they will howl!!!

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Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Mon Dec 31, 2018, 02:35 PM

32. actually, i think he's been a case study on the limitations of presidential power.

even with two years of same-party control of both houses of congress, he's only been able to actually accomplish fairly routine stuff. a republican tax cut for the rich, surprise, surprise, and a couple supreme court picks -- which the senate had to go nuclear on to get through.

he hasn't been able to kill obamacare, he hasn't been able to lock up hillary or obama, he hasn't been able to get real funding for his wall, and many of his executive orders have been stopped or slowed down due to his bigotry and incompetence and contempt for the constitution.

he has been able to make a mess of foreign policy on many fronts, but he's hardly the first president to do so. not sure how we limit that power.


his biggest impact has been in rhetoric. there, we can blame the media and the evolving technology that gives him a megaphone with direct access to millions. but not much can really be legislated to change that. the media needs to learn to filter his crap and provide better context. they're slowly getting better. i suspect they'll really turn on him in 2019, particularly as the mueller stuff gets juicier and he becomes a more obvious lame duck.

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Response to unblock (Reply #32)

Mon Dec 31, 2018, 02:51 PM

33. Good points! I think like you that his term has been an exercise in the limitations of ...

presidential power, thank god.

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Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Mon Dec 31, 2018, 03:35 PM

34. Since ethics is stone cold dead I agree.

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