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vlyons

(10,252 posts)
Thu Jan 3, 2019, 11:57 AM Jan 2019

I'm disappointed in Romney

This is not a pro-Romney rant. He started out like gang-busters with his anti-Trump Op-Ed. But then ---- I actually looked forward to more of the same from him. But no, he will vote FOR the wall. Ah silly me, to expect anything different. So how easy is it to be for a pro-wall vote that will never happen?

I just want to point out the mental depravity of Romney. He takes a pro-morality and proper POTUS etiquette position, posing as a righteous moral man, yet refuses to voice all the detrimental effects of Trump's border wall. Not the least of which are environmental degradations. How is that any different from Evangelicals posing as righteous people, while spewing hate and ignorance, as they go about their grifting ways?

The Republican party is so stupid and heartless, which I guess is the definition of evil. I pledge right here, right now, that post primary election in Texas, I shall support each and every Dem on the ballot. I shall not engage in sore-loser-itis if my candidate loses.

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I'm disappointed in Romney (Original Post) vlyons Jan 2019 OP
I'm neither disappointed nor surprised Proud Liberal Dem Jan 2019 #1
Correct. Cracklin Charlie Jan 2019 #11
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ still_one Jan 2019 #21
He is,has been and always will be a windsock Power 2 the People Jan 2019 #24
Same here. But imo Romney's not an empty suit, he's a Hortensis Jan 2019 #33
Just the latest Flake/Corker-type who talks a good game before rolling over for trump. brush Jan 2019 #36
Remember by the end of 2016 when Romney was literally Hortensis Jan 2019 #37
just remember that he is just as much of entitled richie rich as tangerine tyrant, and do not niyad Jan 2019 #2
Also remember how he whined after his loss in 2012 JHB Jan 2019 #10
and his "binders full of women"! niyad Jan 2019 #12
And his 47% comment Bettie Jan 2019 #20
yes, thanks for the reminder. niyad Jan 2019 #22
I also like to remind people about the Chinese factory anecdote... JHB Jan 2019 #38
and thank you for that reminder as well. it is hard to keep track of all the disgusting, despicable niyad Jan 2019 #39
And? Crutchez_CuiBono Jan 2019 #27
Found on my drive JHB Jan 2019 #40
I'm not; he's doing exactly what I expected, which is put on Jeff Flake's empty suit. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2019 #3
I don't think he is clueless vlyons Jan 2019 #4
He's Jeff Flake 2.0 RockRaven Jan 2019 #5
Rmoney is a charter member of the Concerned Republicans Club dalton99a Jan 2019 #6
I'm disappointed that this was so predictable and yet... JHB Jan 2019 #7
Too bad the wall wasn't up when the Romneys were coming back from Mexico. geardaddy Jan 2019 #8
His editorial said that tRump lacked character, and should be called out on it shanny Jan 2019 #9
Yeah I noticed that the very 1st things he listed as what he liked were vlyons Jan 2019 #13
yup shanny Jan 2019 #29
He's just a more verbally forthright Susan Collins elfin Jan 2019 #14
I hope you've learned not to expect anything from Mittens gratuitous Jan 2019 #15
As a Buddhist vlyons Jan 2019 #18
Romney is after Turbineguy Jan 2019 #16
Romney is a Equity weasal who put thousands out of a job...destroyed families...fuck him. Demsrule86 Jan 2019 #17
He's a republican... that's all we need to know. NRaleighLiberal Jan 2019 #19
and there is always that white horse prophecy bs. niyad Jan 2019 #23
Well, they got the white part correct Bucky Jan 2019 #26
that is what happens when you don't employ trained translators. niyad Jan 2019 #28
Running for senate for him is toe in the water for a 2020 primary challenge Bucky Jan 2019 #25
Agree with above Romney wants to challenge Trump in 2020 Freethinker65 Jan 2019 #30
Republicans can simply not dissapoint me, nor ever surprise me at this point. They are as JCanete Jan 2019 #31
I will not forget that poor dog of his on top of the car. niyad Jan 2019 #32
Romney is awful. ooky Jan 2019 #34
He is exactly who I thought he was Generic Brad Jan 2019 #35

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
11. Correct.
Thu Jan 3, 2019, 12:11 PM
Jan 2019

Basically. But, I think Mittens is even worse than that.

At least half of America is invisible to him.

I also think he’s gonna try to replace Trump as the final leg of his white horse ride of destiny into Washington, DC! All the pieces of his prophecy are falling into place!

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
33. Same here. But imo Romney's not an empty suit, he's a
Thu Jan 3, 2019, 12:57 PM
Jan 2019

strict Mormon religious fundamentalist. A True Believer. He's said so publicly many times, also that his life and his wife's are devoted to the service of God. Remember his religious undies?

Learn more about his religion, and a whole lot about him and his actions that doesn't make sense will. His belief that we will have to go to war against Russia and Iran, for instance, predates by decades Putin's recent behaviors and Iran's support of terrorism. He believes that Satan's forces will operate out of those nations during Armageddon. God's of course will be lead by America, and whoever God chooses to be its commander in chief. At this point I'm remembering his stunned shock on election night 2012. He holds himself humbly ready still, though, to answer God's call should it come.

Btw, although I sort of doubt he intends to use the presidency to somehow force men and women into dutiful Mormon roles, of course a great deal about how we live our lives, notably women's roles, will have to change. I imagine he believes we'll all be glad in our new happiness once God's kingdom is established, but the transition...

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
37. Remember by the end of 2016 when Romney was literally
Thu Jan 3, 2019, 03:03 PM
Jan 2019

promising different audiences very different campaign pledges. in the same day even? Telling different audiences whatever they wanted to hear made good sense if you understood that none of them were his real goals, ones he very obviously could not admit to, and that he eventually had apparently come to believe God would have him win.

We really should all learn all we can about valid candidates for office. None of Romney's commitment to serving god, and nothing but, was ever a secret -- before he ran for one term as a governor and then on to the presidency anyway. Nor are the basic tenets of his religion, which are available to everyone. Like other committed fundamentalists, such as Ben Carson, when the real world and the teachings of the holy book conflict, the holy book rules and everything else is wrong, no dissonance, no doubt. Fundamentalists are strikingly lacking in intellectual curiosity (of course--the holy book contains all truth), and the ignorance that guarantees about many things is something a number of those who've known Romney commented on.

So, knowing his intense religiosity and very rigid belief system, I don't believe Romney "rolls over" for Trump. Exactly what role he's decided Trump plays in these end times I have no idea, but he would not denounce Trump if he believed Trump was chosen and placed by God to serve him. He would serve God by serving Trump.

Open to question is how much Romney fools himself that serving his own self interest is serving God's will, but not that he believes he does his best to determine God's will and serve it. And if that means routinely deceiving millions of unbelievers into voting for him, well, the great virtue and even duty of lying for good purpose is also sanctioned by his religion.

niyad

(119,376 posts)
2. just remember that he is just as much of entitled richie rich as tangerine tyrant, and do not
Thu Jan 3, 2019, 12:00 PM
Jan 2019

forget the way he sucked up to dimwit when he was looking to be in the cabinet (remember that VERY expensive dinner???)

mittens is an opportunistic, entitled, clueless jerk.

Bettie

(16,863 posts)
20. And his 47% comment
Thu Jan 3, 2019, 12:26 PM
Jan 2019

he's just as craven as the others, he is simply slightly (very slightly) better at appearing normal-ish than that orange thing.

JHB

(37,397 posts)
38. I also like to remind people about the Chinese factory anecdote...
Thu Jan 3, 2019, 03:14 PM
Jan 2019

...particularly the bit about how he was told the walls and fences were to keep out people who wanted to work there.

The "guide" told him that. Mr. "I should be president because I'm such a sharp businessman" took the salesman at his word. And how much you want to bet he'd prove my point by responding "He wasn't a salesman, he was our guide." Uh-huh, sure he was, Mr. Sharpo. Wouldn't that be a $10G bet?


Not to mention, "Did you boost the pay of all those young women so they could build their nest eggs faster, so they could go get married and you could let in some of those people the fence was keeping out? I mean, surely even with a modest pay boost it would still be cheaper than the US factory it was replacing. Or did you just keep the extra eggs for your shareholders?"

We know the answer to that one.

niyad

(119,376 posts)
39. and thank you for that reminder as well. it is hard to keep track of all the disgusting, despicable
Thu Jan 3, 2019, 03:17 PM
Jan 2019

ignorant, and generally assholic crap the pukes spew.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(120,154 posts)
3. I'm not; he's doing exactly what I expected, which is put on Jeff Flake's empty suit.
Thu Jan 3, 2019, 12:03 PM
Jan 2019

Like Flake and Corker, he'll express "concern" and then vote right along with Trump. He doesn't like Trump's style but he'll go along with his shitty GOP policies.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
4. I don't think he is clueless
Thu Jan 3, 2019, 12:03 PM
Jan 2019

He is very smart, which makes him very dangerous. He knows how to pose as whatever gets him what he wants, which is money and the power to make even more money.

RockRaven

(16,144 posts)
5. He's Jeff Flake 2.0
Thu Jan 3, 2019, 12:04 PM
Jan 2019

with a backstory of deceit, vulture capitalism, grift, corruption, and financial crimes.

JHB

(37,397 posts)
7. I'm disappointed that this was so predictable and yet...
Thu Jan 3, 2019, 12:06 PM
Jan 2019

..."Romney stands up to Trump" stories were still the order of the day by people who should know better.

 

shanny

(6,709 posts)
9. His editorial said that tRump lacked character, and should be called out on it
Thu Jan 3, 2019, 12:06 PM
Jan 2019

but added that his policies were basically fine. He's trying to tell R donors that he will continue to do their bidding but without the drama. Just positioning himself to step in (on his white charger no doubt) when rump is exposed for the crook that he is (the deep pockets know there aren't enough troglodytes to re-elect him if all independents are lost--they will cut and run eventually).

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
13. Yeah I noticed that the very 1st things he listed as what he liked were
Thu Jan 3, 2019, 12:12 PM
Jan 2019

billionaire tax cuts and regulations killed-off. So who cares how much corporate and agricultural toxins are dumped into our rivers and lakes? Romney can afford to drink Perrier.

elfin

(6,262 posts)
14. He's just a more verbally forthright Susan Collins
Thu Jan 3, 2019, 12:13 PM
Jan 2019

Raises hopes, dashes them. Will do whatever McConnell tells him to do, while somehow making it sound mainstream even if it is the worst for everyone except the 1%.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
15. I hope you've learned not to expect anything from Mittens
Thu Jan 3, 2019, 12:14 PM
Jan 2019

That's the only way he can disappoint you, is if you expect him to do the right thing.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
18. As a Buddhist
Thu Jan 3, 2019, 12:21 PM
Jan 2019

I'm aware of the limitations of expectations, but sometimes I forget. Silly me.

"Be ever mindful of the shortcomings of desire's rewards." -- Kalu Rinpoche

Demsrule86

(70,914 posts)
17. Romney is a Equity weasal who put thousands out of a job...destroyed families...fuck him.
Thu Jan 3, 2019, 12:20 PM
Jan 2019

He is also a Republican. Your first mistake is believing anything he says...just as much a liar as any of them.

Bucky

(55,334 posts)
26. Well, they got the white part correct
Thu Jan 3, 2019, 12:37 PM
Jan 2019

I'm not sure how the prophecy mistranslated asshole into horse

Bucky

(55,334 posts)
25. Running for senate for him is toe in the water for a 2020 primary challenge
Thu Jan 3, 2019, 12:36 PM
Jan 2019

But yes, nearly all of his votes will be in support of Trump's ongoing anti America campaign

Freethinker65

(11,022 posts)
30. Agree with above Romney wants to challenge Trump in 2020
Thu Jan 3, 2019, 12:49 PM
Jan 2019

To get the nomination he needs to support the Trump agenda enough to get votes from those GOP primary voters that generally agree with Trump's conservative policies but find Trump as insane and repulsive as most of us do.

In Utah in his own neighborhood of Holladay he lacked major support and was seen as too liberal. Of course, once he won the state nomination for Senate, those voters felt they had no choice but to vote for him. He needs to play the political game the same way to overtake Trump in the Presidential primary.

 

JCanete

(5,272 posts)
31. Republicans can simply not dissapoint me, nor ever surprise me at this point. They are as
Thu Jan 3, 2019, 12:52 PM
Jan 2019

predictable as an atomic clock. You can set your watch to them.

Generic Brad

(14,374 posts)
35. He is exactly who I thought he was
Thu Jan 3, 2019, 01:23 PM
Jan 2019

His policies don’t deviate from the Republican agenda one iota. His delivery is just more palatable.

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