So how and when will the government open?

[Joe941]

Seems like no way to end it. Both sides vowing not to give in. How do you see the end game playing out?

[Vinca]

1. I think the TSA people are going to have to walk out en masse and shut down the system.

The cog in the wheel is Mitch McConnell. If the whole air transportation system is grounded, surely he'll put bills they've passed before up for a vote.

[leftieNanner]

4. Agree

When the wealthy Republicans and corporations start losing serious money, someone will need to go to The Donald and tell him to find a way to end this.

Damn, but I wish we knew who had Mitch by the short and curlies to explain his behavior. He could end this now by bringing the House bill up for a vote. #45 says he won't open the government without wall money, and the Dems say no wall money. Rock and hard place. And now today we find out the wall was just a mnemonic to remind Donald to rail against immigrants at his rallies.

Geez - this is nuts!

[Vinca]

6. OMG - I hadn't heard the mnemonic thing. Totally fucking amazing.

[Control-Z]

12. Huh?

Who thought Donald would forget he hates brown skinned immigrants? And who came up with the wall as the mnemonic device to remind him?

[leftieNanner]

13. Sam Nunberg and Roger Stone

According to this report:

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/01/trumps-wall-gimmick-cooked-advisers-remember-bash-immigrants-speeches-report/

[manor321]

2. IMHO, either Trump caves or Republicans decide to override his veto

Trump will desperately come up with some "compromise" that is really a cave but he'll call it a compromise to save embarrassment.

If that doesn't happen I think enough Republicans will override his veto and reopen government.

[apcalc]

3. I see Trump and Republicans eventually caving under pressure.

Especially now that Dems have passed a bill to end it.
Let the days go by at airports without TSA screeners, without proper maintenance and communications personnel, without air traffic controllers getting paid. Parts of the judiciary cannot function, the parks are struggling with human waste...etc
Tax returns will not be forthcoming , hurting his supporters they say...

My point is that the pressure will build....the public won’t stand for it.

[Joe941]

5. How long do you think this will take?

[leftieNanner]

7. Some time before the 2020 election.

[OliverQ]

9. I'm flying to Europe in May. Better be fixed by then!

[apcalc]

8. Dunno. Gonna be real ugly maybe....

[dem4decades]

10. Republican Senators have to be pressured to vote for what they already voted for.

[leftieNanner]

11. And SOMEONE needs to talk to Mitch

because even if 99 Senators agree to vote for opening up the government, if the Majority Leader refuses to bring it up for a vote, it's toast. I believe that Mitch will maximize the damage in the next two years and then retire. Other than the fact that he is a raging ass hole, I still don't understand why he is behaving this way.

[NCjack]

14. Looks like Mitch is going for performance bonus from Putin in Jan. 2021. nt

[drray23]

15. As soon as mcconnel put it up for a vote.

Some of the proposals Pelosi and Schumer have proposed had been overwhelmingly passed before by the Senate. Trump will veto it but the Senate can override.