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Turn on Joy Reid (Original Post) Botany Jan 2019 OP
Kick dalton99a Jan 2019 #1
Great panel malaise Jan 2019 #2
Malcolm Nance doesn't mince words. badhair77 Jan 2019 #3
He also pointed out last night on The Last Word that he'd already written a book about it Miles Archer Jan 2019 #8
Thanks. I'll try to checkout LW on the replay tonight. badhair77 Jan 2019 #21
Natasha Bertrand is the stuff too. Botany Jan 2019 #47
and sarah kendzior Kurt V. Jan 2019 #22
Sarah Kendzior is kag Jan 2019 #39
and she speaks with compassion. Kurt V. Jan 2019 #50
The sheer number of political wonks on this site has always lunatica Jan 2019 #23
right. debsy Jan 2019 #32
A small suggestion to modify your post title MLAA Jan 2019 #4
Would this be better? Botany Jan 2019 #5
Yes, indeed. I like it! Perfect. MLAA Jan 2019 #6
Much better. SammyWinstonJack Jan 2019 #7
Just need to work the word orange in there somewhere. Takket Jan 2019 #18
Forget Orange Pantagruel Jan 2019 #35
The Best Prcis I've Read! (n/t) corbettkroehler Jan 2019 #49
A Russian asshat. nt tblue37 Jan 2019 #11
If the hat fits.....😬 MLAA Jan 2019 #45
Correct that to double asshole. lunatica Jan 2019 #24
Nice anatomically correct description. 🙂 MLAA Jan 2019 #46
She has the best panel this morning and they are being held over after the break...Really a great hlthe2b Jan 2019 #9
Yep! FM123 Jan 2019 #10
Floored, but I'll get up in a little bit! erlewyne Jan 2019 #12
Many of us DU geeks have known that Trump is a Russian asset for years but see it laid out ... Botany Jan 2019 #13
and let us not forget: the NRA debsy Jan 2019 #33
AMJOY has been great this morning Gothmog Jan 2019 #14
Wonder to what extent the Sunday Morning shows will pick this up. chimpymustgo Jan 2019 #15
oh gawd plz make pence one too! samnsara Jan 2019 #16
Google Newsweek, Manafort, and Pence Botany Jan 2019 #48
I don't have cable but look forward to her podcast. nt ginnyinWI Jan 2019 #17
And we were warned. Why didn't people listen? DesertRat Jan 2019 #19
She warned the people!! healthnut7 Jan 2019 #31
+1 ffr Jan 2019 #41
At DU this is a known fact. Most of the country is 2 years behind and the sad part is nobody wants Pepsidog Jan 2019 #20
It's so sad people don't want to talk about it. Buckeyeblue Jan 2019 #29
Sad it is. Pepsidog Jan 2019 #40
Do you get passionate and upset when you talk about it? I always do lunatica Jan 2019 #30
I try and discuss only the easy to understand parts and things I just cannot believe. Pepsidog Jan 2019 #42
To answer your question though, my kids watched for 8 years me Pepsidog Jan 2019 #44
I know the feeling finally had time alone marlakay Jan 2019 #38
I have a 22 year old son who is a modest Trumper. I have been talking to him and he is coming around Pepsidog Jan 2019 #43
Putin was a highly trained KGB agent specifically focused on recruitment Enoki33 Jan 2019 #25
Putin owns trump Gothmog Jan 2019 #26
Can't. At 45 below, rabbit ears don't work. akraven Jan 2019 #27
I cannot turn her off erlewyne Jan 2019 #28
What's with these cowboy hats in these meetings? erlewyne Jan 2019 #34
We were warned Gothmog Jan 2019 #36
This message was self-deleted by its author Tech Jan 2019 #37

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
8. He also pointed out last night on The Last Word that he'd already written a book about it
Sat Jan 12, 2019, 11:27 AM
Jan 2019

Nance AND David Corn...BOTH laid this all out in detail, WELL BEFORE the current headlines. We are really learning nothing new right now. It's just that it finally seems to be penetrating into a larger consciousness. But it does provide us with an opportunity to recognize true journalists for their work, for both of them to get some long-overdue recognition for their work.

badhair77

(4,216 posts)
21. Thanks. I'll try to checkout LW on the replay tonight.
Sat Jan 12, 2019, 12:39 PM
Jan 2019

I like Nance and Corn and both should be lauded for their work.

kag

(4,079 posts)
39. Sarah Kendzior is
Sat Jan 12, 2019, 01:48 PM
Jan 2019

EASILY one of the smartest political wonks out there. She is also eloquent, and can speak extemporaneously and articulately on a host of subjects. I've never read any of her books, but I intend to.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
23. The sheer number of political wonks on this site has always
Sat Jan 12, 2019, 12:42 PM
Jan 2019

made DU ahead of the curve in the knowings of political news. It has always surprised me when suddenly something we knew about and discussed and opined over in months or years past is on the media as if it’s breaking news. It has a bit of a jarring effect.

Other sites in other categories of interest are probably the same way. I imagine if there are medical interest sites filled with people who are intensely interested in such things the same would happen. The new things we would hear about the latest in medicine would be last year’s facts to them.

I’m old enough to still get blown away by what the internet is and does. It’s the most amazing revolutionary change to be going through! It really is the stuff of science fiction come true.

MLAA

(17,282 posts)
4. A small suggestion to modify your post title
Sat Jan 12, 2019, 11:20 AM
Jan 2019

Trump is a Russian asset and all around asshole. 😬

Botany

(70,490 posts)
5. Would this be better?
Sat Jan 12, 2019, 11:23 AM
Jan 2019

Donald Trump is a treasonous grift weasel and a Russian asset who is working
to bring down America from the inside in order to pay off his debt to Vlad Putin.

 

Pantagruel

(2,580 posts)
35. Forget Orange
Sat Jan 12, 2019, 01:30 PM
Jan 2019

I'd like to see some of this incorporated:

"Individual 1", the "unindicted co-conspirator", a self-admitted sexual predator with self-admitted mob connections

hlthe2b

(102,225 posts)
9. She has the best panel this morning and they are being held over after the break...Really a great
Sat Jan 12, 2019, 11:32 AM
Jan 2019

group.

FM123

(10,053 posts)
10. Yep!
Sat Jan 12, 2019, 11:39 AM
Jan 2019

and Rick Wilson just said that if Donald Trump is not a Russian asset, how could you tell the difference?

erlewyne

(1,115 posts)
12. Floored, but I'll get up in a little bit!
Sat Jan 12, 2019, 11:45 AM
Jan 2019

I just hit this thread about 15 minutes late. All I had to do was
click "last" on my remote because I was watching her last night.

Whoa, This was good. I was just taken off guard.

Thanks Botany ... my head is spinning!!

Botany

(70,490 posts)
13. Many of us DU geeks have known that Trump is a Russian asset for years but see it laid out ...
Sat Jan 12, 2019, 11:53 AM
Jan 2019

.... by experts on a national show is still staggering. Russia's attack on our elections was not
an attack on Hillary, Dems, or liberals but a coordinated attack on America in what was an act
of war. But for it to have worked Russia needed inside help and they got in the form of non stop
hearing into nothing, Fox News, massive disinformation campaigns both foreign and domestic,
Mitch McConnell and the republicans, and a 30% base of un-American dumb fucks.

chimpymustgo

(12,774 posts)
15. Wonder to what extent the Sunday Morning shows will pick this up.
Sat Jan 12, 2019, 12:11 PM
Jan 2019

The NYT article is pretty hard to ignore!

healthnut7

(249 posts)
31. She warned the people!!
Sat Jan 12, 2019, 01:06 PM
Jan 2019

My hubby and I have said this many times. She knows him personally (as to what a crook he really is) and she knew and said so but people just ignored it!! At least she knows she tried!!

ffr

(22,669 posts)
41. +1
Sat Jan 12, 2019, 02:06 PM
Jan 2019

We listened, but the 24/7 Fox Noise machine that's working against America, even as we speak, has 30% of RW voters guaranteed to support Individual-1 until his death.

Pepsidog

(6,254 posts)
20. At DU this is a known fact. Most of the country is 2 years behind and the sad part is nobody wants
Sat Jan 12, 2019, 12:36 PM
Jan 2019

to discuss the Russian investigation. I try to keep it simple and explain to my adult kids and wife what is happening. They are all Dems and even they don’t want to hear about it. I’m nuts, the crazy one. If I bring up anything happening with the Russian scandal they look away and don’t want to hear it. Maybe I am crazy but the thought of a Russian asset in the White House infuriates me. I know my kids are to young to know about the Cold War so I use movies like Top Gun and Rocky IV to try and explain to them that Russia, not the Middle East, is our real enemy. Blank stares and indifference is all I get. I’m sure many at DU experience the same thing. But I won’t stop. They will are the light at some point.

Buckeyeblue

(5,499 posts)
29. It's so sad people don't want to talk about it.
Sat Jan 12, 2019, 01:00 PM
Jan 2019

I'm the political junkie in my house. We discuss how bad things are but I don't go too far into this, mainly because it's the stuff of novels and movies.

But this shit is real. And 45 and family and employees did such a bad job at disguising it.

And we will never get his base to believe it, because if they agree that this is true, then they have to admit that they were duped. And them that are always right will never admit that.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
30. Do you get passionate and upset when you talk about it? I always do
Sat Jan 12, 2019, 01:01 PM
Jan 2019

I would try to get people to understand that things are bad, and I would make an effort to connect the dots for them and unless someone was as passionate as me they would try to shut the conversation down. My son would avoid talking about politics with me because he felt it upset me too much, and that I was being obsessive about it.

Eventually I backed off and put all that passion into DU where we are all like minded and passionate about politics. But in my family, job, and acquaintances if anyone wants to know what’s going on they always come to me. They think of me as the expert.

When I was young my mother was the person who knew everything. She would get passionate about politics too but at the time I wasn’t that interested. I used to think she was getting too upset too, and would kind of avoid talking about politics. I was wrong though, as I’ve found out in my old age.

Pepsidog

(6,254 posts)
42. I try and discuss only the easy to understand parts and things I just cannot believe.
Sat Jan 12, 2019, 02:07 PM
Jan 2019

Shocking headlines like the NYT piece on FBI investigating Trump. We all knew this but it’s still shocking to see. It’s amazing how desensitized people have become. I mean I recall being 11 years old during Watergate and I was interested as a kid. Very sad and hopefully the county will awaken from its slumber.

Pepsidog

(6,254 posts)
44. To answer your question though, my kids watched for 8 years me
Sat Jan 12, 2019, 02:16 PM
Jan 2019

cheering on Kieth Olberhman and his special comments. I made my kids watch them. But no now I try to rationally explain what I think is important in basic dispassionate terms. To be fair though, my kids are busy adults. One in medical school who is smart and has tried to stay with me on politics but his priority is school. Another son, the Trumper, I think says things just to annoy me. He is studying for series 7 exam and doesn’t bother with politics.My daughter was devasted after Hillary lost. She isn’t a political person but she was profoundly affected by the loss. But she is in medical devices and in the operating room so she has little time for politics. My other daughter is in college and barely tolerates me. My wife, well she dislikes my daughters BF and is obsessed with talking about him. I trade, 5 minutes of BF talk for 5 minutes of Trump.

marlakay

(11,451 posts)
38. I know the feeling finally had time alone
Sat Jan 12, 2019, 01:46 PM
Jan 2019

With my older daughter last weekend, she has gone from democrat to not voting hates politics both sides are the same. Her boyfriend and all the republicans at work have been wearing her down and I rarely get to really connect.

It makes me sad but from someone who doesn’t watch the news or read it its all what you hear.

Pepsidog

(6,254 posts)
43. I have a 22 year old son who is a modest Trumper. I have been talking to him and he is coming around
Sat Jan 12, 2019, 02:09 PM
Jan 2019

but I loathe “both sided” and “yea but” arguments. Chuck Todd is a chief offender.

Enoki33

(1,587 posts)
25. Putin was a highly trained KGB agent specifically focused on recruitment
Sat Jan 12, 2019, 12:50 PM
Jan 2019

of intelligence assets in Europe. And he chose so very well, from his POV, when in the 80s he targeted dotard who so perfectly fit Russian MICE (money, ideology, compromise and ego) guidelines. Malcolm Nance has been writing and saying this for a long time now, and today we are beginning to see and acknowledge how right he was and is. Malcolm personifies the meaning of patriotism, as does the other experts on Joy’s panel quietly shouting a wake up call to the nation. It is extremely difficult to wrap your mind around the fact that the evidence as we know it clearly points to the president being a active agent of the Kremlin. It is the face of the long predicted constitutional crisis.

erlewyne

(1,115 posts)
28. I cannot turn her off
Sat Jan 12, 2019, 12:59 PM
Jan 2019

I have things to do, but I can not turn her off.

Right now I am listening to Malcolm Nance. My problem is
that I am in my seventies, a drafted veteran (vietnam) and
lifelong democrat and union member. I have wanted this
G.O.P rebuttal for years.

I need time to work on taxes and my children's (grandchildren)
happenstance. Trump and Mitch are traitorous distractions.

Now I cannot miss Joy. Time goes by too fast.

Thank you, thank you very much.

erlewyne

(1,115 posts)
34. What's with these cowboy hats in these meetings?
Sat Jan 12, 2019, 01:29 PM
Jan 2019

You have these ten-gallon hats in view. They look silly
because I am careful to make my baseball caps inconspicuous.

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