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Sat Jan 12, 2019, 10:15 AM

Turn on Joy Reid

Trump is a Russian asset.

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Botany Saturday OP
dalton99a Saturday #1
malaise Saturday #2
badhair77 Saturday #3
Miles Archer Saturday #8
badhair77 Saturday #21
Botany Saturday #47
Kurt V. Saturday #22
kag Saturday #39
Kurt V. Sunday #50
lunatica Saturday #23
debsy Saturday #32
MLAA Saturday #4
Botany Saturday #5
MLAA Saturday #6
SammyWinstonJack Saturday #7
Takket Saturday #18
Pantagruel Saturday #35
corbettkroehler Sunday #49
tblue37 Saturday #11
MLAA Saturday #45
lunatica Saturday #24
MLAA Saturday #46
hlthe2b Saturday #9
FM123 Saturday #10
erlewyne Saturday #12
Botany Saturday #13
debsy Saturday #33
Gothmog Saturday #14
chimpymustgo Saturday #15
samnsara Saturday #16
Botany Saturday #48
ginnyinWI Saturday #17
DesertRat Saturday #19
healthnut7 Saturday #31
ffr Saturday #41
Pepsidog Saturday #20
Buckeyeblue Saturday #29
Pepsidog Saturday #40
lunatica Saturday #30
Pepsidog Saturday #42
Pepsidog Saturday #44
marlakay Saturday #38
Pepsidog Saturday #43
Enoki33 Saturday #25
Gothmog Saturday #26
akraven Saturday #27
erlewyne Saturday #28
erlewyne Saturday #34
Gothmog Saturday #36
Tech Saturday #37

Response to Botany (Original post)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 10:15 AM

1. Kick

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 10:16 AM

2. Great panel

Yes!

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 10:17 AM

3. Malcolm Nance doesn't mince words.

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Response to badhair77 (Reply #3)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 10:27 AM

8. He also pointed out last night on The Last Word that he'd already written a book about it

Nance AND David Corn...BOTH laid this all out in detail, WELL BEFORE the current headlines. We are really learning nothing new right now. It's just that it finally seems to be penetrating into a larger consciousness. But it does provide us with an opportunity to recognize true journalists for their work, for both of them to get some long-overdue recognition for their work.

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Response to Miles Archer (Reply #8)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 11:39 AM

21. Thanks. I'll try to checkout LW on the replay tonight.

I like Nance and Corn and both should be lauded for their work.

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Response to badhair77 (Reply #21)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 01:28 PM

47. Natasha Bertrand is the stuff too.

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Response to Miles Archer (Reply #8)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 11:40 AM

22. and sarah kendzior

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Response to Kurt V. (Reply #22)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 12:48 PM

39. Sarah Kendzior is

EASILY one of the smartest political wonks out there. She is also eloquent, and can speak extemporaneously and articulately on a host of subjects. I've never read any of her books, but I intend to.

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Response to kag (Reply #39)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 06:53 PM

50. and she speaks with compassion.

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Response to Miles Archer (Reply #8)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 11:42 AM

23. The sheer number of political wonks on this site has always

made DU ahead of the curve in the knowings of political news. It has always surprised me when suddenly something we knew about and discussed and opined over in months or years past is on the media as if itís breaking news. It has a bit of a jarring effect.

Other sites in other categories of interest are probably the same way. I imagine if there are medical interest sites filled with people who are intensely interested in such things the same would happen. The new things we would hear about the latest in medicine would be last yearís facts to them.

Iím old enough to still get blown away by what the internet is and does. Itís the most amazing revolutionary change to be going through! It really is the stuff of science fiction come true.

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Response to Miles Archer (Reply #8)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 12:06 PM

32. right.

many of us have been saying this for years.

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 10:20 AM

4. A small suggestion to modify your post title

Trump is a Russian asset and all around asshole. 😬

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Response to MLAA (Reply #4)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 10:23 AM

5. Would this be better?

Donald Trump is a treasonous grift weasel and a Russian asset who is working
to bring down America from the inside in order to pay off his debt to Vlad Putin.

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Response to Botany (Reply #5)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 10:24 AM

6. Yes, indeed. I like it! Perfect.

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Response to Botany (Reply #5)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 10:24 AM

7. Much better.

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Response to Botany (Reply #5)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 11:27 AM

18. Just need to work the word orange in there somewhere.

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Response to Takket (Reply #18)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 12:30 PM

35. Forget Orange

I'd like to see some of this incorporated:

"Individual 1", the "unindicted co-conspirator", a self-admitted sexual predator with self-admitted mob connections

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Response to Botany (Reply #5)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 08:16 AM

49. The Best Prcis I've Read! (n/t)

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Response to MLAA (Reply #4)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 10:42 AM

11. A Russian asshat. nt

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Response to tblue37 (Reply #11)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 01:20 PM

45. If the hat fits.....😬

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Response to MLAA (Reply #4)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 11:44 AM

24. Correct that to double asshole.

One is in his ass and the other on his face. Both spew crap.

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Response to lunatica (Reply #24)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 01:21 PM

46. Nice anatomically correct description. 🙂

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 10:32 AM

9. She has the best panel this morning and they are being held over after the break...Really a great

group.

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 10:39 AM

10. Yep!

and Rick Wilson just said that if Donald Trump is not a Russian asset, how could you tell the difference?

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 10:45 AM

12. Floored, but I'll get up in a little bit!

I just hit this thread about 15 minutes late. All I had to do was
click "last" on my remote because I was watching her last night.

Whoa, This was good. I was just taken off guard.

Thanks Botany ... my head is spinning!!

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Response to erlewyne (Reply #12)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 10:53 AM

13. Many of us DU geeks have known that Trump is a Russian asset for years but see it laid out ...

.... by experts on a national show is still staggering. Russia's attack on our elections was not
an attack on Hillary, Dems, or liberals but a coordinated attack on America in what was an act
of war. But for it to have worked Russia needed inside help and they got in the form of non stop
hearing into nothing, Fox News, massive disinformation campaigns both foreign and domestic,
Mitch McConnell and the republicans, and a 30% base of un-American dumb fucks.

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Response to Botany (Reply #13)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 12:08 PM

33. and let us not forget: the NRA

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 11:03 AM

14. AMJOY has been great this morning

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Response to Gothmog (Reply #14)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 11:11 AM

15. Wonder to what extent the Sunday Morning shows will pick this up.

The NYT article is pretty hard to ignore!

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 11:12 AM

16. oh gawd plz make pence one too!

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Response to samnsara (Reply #16)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 01:32 PM

48. Google Newsweek, Manafort, and Pence

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 11:25 AM

17. I don't have cable but look forward to her podcast. nt

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 11:32 AM

19. And we were warned. Why didn't people listen?

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Response to DesertRat (Reply #19)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 12:06 PM

31. She warned the people!!

My hubby and I have said this many times. She knows him personally (as to what a crook he really is) and she knew and said so but people just ignored it!! At least she knows she tried!!

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Response to DesertRat (Reply #19)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 01:06 PM

41. +1

We listened, but the 24/7 Fox Noise machine that's working against America, even as we speak, has 30% of RW voters guaranteed to support Individual-1 until his death.

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 11:36 AM

20. At DU this is a known fact. Most of the country is 2 years behind and the sad part is nobody wants

to discuss the Russian investigation. I try to keep it simple and explain to my adult kids and wife what is happening. They are all Dems and even they donít want to hear about it. Iím nuts, the crazy one. If I bring up anything happening with the Russian scandal they look away and donít want to hear it. Maybe I am crazy but the thought of a Russian asset in the White House infuriates me. I know my kids are to young to know about the Cold War so I use movies like Top Gun and Rocky IV to try and explain to them that Russia, not the Middle East, is our real enemy. Blank stares and indifference is all I get. Iím sure many at DU experience the same thing. But I wonít stop. They will are the light at some point.

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Response to Pepsidog (Reply #20)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 12:00 PM

29. It's so sad people don't want to talk about it.

I'm the political junkie in my house. We discuss how bad things are but I don't go too far into this, mainly because it's the stuff of novels and movies.

But this shit is real. And 45 and family and employees did such a bad job at disguising it.

And we will never get his base to believe it, because if they agree that this is true, then they have to admit that they were duped. And them that are always right will never admit that.

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Response to Buckeyeblue (Reply #29)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 01:03 PM

40. Sad it is.

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Response to Pepsidog (Reply #20)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 12:01 PM

30. Do you get passionate and upset when you talk about it? I always do

I would try to get people to understand that things are bad, and I would make an effort to connect the dots for them and unless someone was as passionate as me they would try to shut the conversation down. My son would avoid talking about politics with me because he felt it upset me too much, and that I was being obsessive about it.

Eventually I backed off and put all that passion into DU where we are all like minded and passionate about politics. But in my family, job, and acquaintances if anyone wants to know whatís going on they always come to me. They think of me as the expert.

When I was young my mother was the person who knew everything. She would get passionate about politics too but at the time I wasnít that interested. I used to think she was getting too upset too, and would kind of avoid talking about politics. I was wrong though, as Iíve found out in my old age.

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Response to lunatica (Reply #30)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 01:07 PM

42. I try and discuss only the easy to understand parts and things I just cannot believe.

Shocking headlines like the NYT piece on FBI investigating Trump. We all knew this but itís still shocking to see. Itís amazing how desensitized people have become. I mean I recall being 11 years old during Watergate and I was interested as a kid. Very sad and hopefully the county will awaken from its slumber.

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Response to lunatica (Reply #30)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 01:16 PM

44. To answer your question though, my kids watched for 8 years me

cheering on Kieth Olberhman and his special comments. I made my kids watch them. But no now I try to rationally explain what I think is important in basic dispassionate terms. To be fair though, my kids are busy adults. One in medical school who is smart and has tried to stay with me on politics but his priority is school. Another son, the Trumper, I think says things just to annoy me. He is studying for series 7 exam and doesnít bother with politics.My daughter was devasted after Hillary lost. She isnít a political person but she was profoundly affected by the loss. But she is in medical devices and in the operating room so she has little time for politics. My other daughter is in college and barely tolerates me. My wife, well she dislikes my daughters BF and is obsessed with talking about him. I trade, 5 minutes of BF talk for 5 minutes of Trump.

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Response to Pepsidog (Reply #20)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 12:46 PM

38. I know the feeling finally had time alone

With my older daughter last weekend, she has gone from democrat to not voting hates politics both sides are the same. Her boyfriend and all the republicans at work have been wearing her down and I rarely get to really connect.

It makes me sad but from someone who doesnít watch the news or read it its all what you hear.

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Response to marlakay (Reply #38)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 01:09 PM

43. I have a 22 year old son who is a modest Trumper. I have been talking to him and he is coming around

but I loathe ďboth sidedĒ and ďyea butĒ arguments. Chuck Todd is a chief offender.

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 11:50 AM

25. Putin was a highly trained KGB agent specifically focused on recruitment

of intelligence assets in Europe. And he chose so very well, from his POV, when in the 80s he targeted dotard who so perfectly fit Russian MICE (money, ideology, compromise and ego) guidelines. Malcolm Nance has been writing and saying this for a long time now, and today we are beginning to see and acknowledge how right he was and is. Malcolm personifies the meaning of patriotism, as does the other experts on Joyís panel quietly shouting a wake up call to the nation. It is extremely difficult to wrap your mind around the fact that the evidence as we know it clearly points to the president being a active agent of the Kremlin. It is the face of the long predicted constitutional crisis.

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 11:55 AM

26. Putin owns trump

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 11:58 AM

27. Can't. At 45 below, rabbit ears don't work.

Can get on comp with a link, though. I adore her.

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 11:59 AM

28. I cannot turn her off

I have things to do, but I can not turn her off.

Right now I am listening to Malcolm Nance. My problem is
that I am in my seventies, a drafted veteran (vietnam) and
lifelong democrat and union member. I have wanted this
G.O.P rebuttal for years.

I need time to work on taxes and my children's (grandchildren)
happenstance. Trump and Mitch are traitorous distractions.

Now I cannot miss Joy. Time goes by too fast.

Thank you, thank you very much.

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 12:29 PM

34. What's with these cowboy hats in these meetings?

You have these ten-gallon hats in view. They look silly
because I am careful to make my baseball caps inconspicuous.

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 12:34 PM

36. We were warned

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 12:38 PM

37. I love Joy

She maintains the message of democrats. Even when she allows users on, if they abuse the privilege she calls them out on it. Caught some of it this morning, what a great yet frightening panel discussion.

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