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(81,454 posts)malaise
(268,931 posts)Yes!
badhair77
(4,216 posts)Miles Archer
(18,837 posts)Nance AND David Corn...BOTH laid this all out in detail, WELL BEFORE the current headlines. We are really learning nothing new right now. It's just that it finally seems to be penetrating into a larger consciousness. But it does provide us with an opportunity to recognize true journalists for their work, for both of them to get some long-overdue recognition for their work.
badhair77
(4,216 posts)I like Nance and Corn and both should be lauded for their work.
Botany
(70,490 posts)Kurt V.
(5,624 posts)kag
(4,079 posts)EASILY one of the smartest political wonks out there. She is also eloquent, and can speak extemporaneously and articulately on a host of subjects. I've never read any of her books, but I intend to.
Kurt V.
(5,624 posts)lunatica
(53,410 posts)made DU ahead of the curve in the knowings of political news. It has always surprised me when suddenly something we knew about and discussed and opined over in months or years past is on the media as if its breaking news. It has a bit of a jarring effect.
Other sites in other categories of interest are probably the same way. I imagine if there are medical interest sites filled with people who are intensely interested in such things the same would happen. The new things we would hear about the latest in medicine would be last years facts to them.
Im old enough to still get blown away by what the internet is and does. Its the most amazing revolutionary change to be going through! It really is the stuff of science fiction come true.
many of us have been saying this for years.
MLAA
(17,282 posts)Trump is a Russian asset and all around asshole. 😬
Botany
(70,490 posts)Donald Trump is a treasonous grift weasel and a Russian asset who is working
to bring down America from the inside in order to pay off his debt to Vlad Putin.
MLAA
(17,282 posts)SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)Takket
(21,560 posts)Pantagruel
(2,580 posts)I'd like to see some of this incorporated:
"Individual 1", the "unindicted co-conspirator", a self-admitted sexual predator with self-admitted mob connections
corbettkroehler
(1,898 posts)tblue37
(65,334 posts)MLAA
(17,282 posts)lunatica
(53,410 posts)One is in his ass and the other on his face. Both spew crap.
MLAA
(17,282 posts)hlthe2b
(102,225 posts)group.
and Rick Wilson just said that if Donald Trump is not a Russian asset, how could you tell the difference?
erlewyne
(1,115 posts)I just hit this thread about 15 minutes late. All I had to do was
click "last" on my remote because I was watching her last night.
Whoa, This was good. I was just taken off guard.
Thanks Botany ... my head is spinning!!
Botany
(70,490 posts).... by experts on a national show is still staggering. Russia's attack on our elections was not
an attack on Hillary, Dems, or liberals but a coordinated attack on America in what was an act
of war. But for it to have worked Russia needed inside help and they got in the form of non stop
hearing into nothing, Fox News, massive disinformation campaigns both foreign and domestic,
Mitch McConnell and the republicans, and a 30% base of un-American dumb fucks.
debsy
(530 posts)Gothmog
(145,130 posts)chimpymustgo
(12,774 posts)The NYT article is pretty hard to ignore!
samnsara
(17,618 posts)Botany
(70,490 posts)ginnyinWI
(17,276 posts)DesertRat
(27,995 posts)healthnut7
(249 posts)My hubby and I have said this many times. She knows him personally (as to what a crook he really is) and she knew and said so but people just ignored it!! At least she knows she tried!!
We listened, but the 24/7 Fox Noise machine that's working against America, even as we speak, has 30% of RW voters guaranteed to support Individual-1 until his death.
Pepsidog
(6,254 posts)to discuss the Russian investigation. I try to keep it simple and explain to my adult kids and wife what is happening. They are all Dems and even they dont want to hear about it. Im nuts, the crazy one. If I bring up anything happening with the Russian scandal they look away and dont want to hear it. Maybe I am crazy but the thought of a Russian asset in the White House infuriates me. I know my kids are to young to know about the Cold War so I use movies like Top Gun and Rocky IV to try and explain to them that Russia, not the Middle East, is our real enemy. Blank stares and indifference is all I get. Im sure many at DU experience the same thing. But I wont stop. They will are the light at some point.
Buckeyeblue
(5,499 posts)I'm the political junkie in my house. We discuss how bad things are but I don't go too far into this, mainly because it's the stuff of novels and movies.
But this shit is real. And 45 and family and employees did such a bad job at disguising it.
And we will never get his base to believe it, because if they agree that this is true, then they have to admit that they were duped. And them that are always right will never admit that.
Pepsidog
(6,254 posts)lunatica
(53,410 posts)I would try to get people to understand that things are bad, and I would make an effort to connect the dots for them and unless someone was as passionate as me they would try to shut the conversation down. My son would avoid talking about politics with me because he felt it upset me too much, and that I was being obsessive about it.
Eventually I backed off and put all that passion into DU where we are all like minded and passionate about politics. But in my family, job, and acquaintances if anyone wants to know whats going on they always come to me. They think of me as the expert.
When I was young my mother was the person who knew everything. She would get passionate about politics too but at the time I wasnt that interested. I used to think she was getting too upset too, and would kind of avoid talking about politics. I was wrong though, as Ive found out in my old age.
Pepsidog
(6,254 posts)Shocking headlines like the NYT piece on FBI investigating Trump. We all knew this but its still shocking to see. Its amazing how desensitized people have become. I mean I recall being 11 years old during Watergate and I was interested as a kid. Very sad and hopefully the county will awaken from its slumber.
Pepsidog
(6,254 posts)cheering on Kieth Olberhman and his special comments. I made my kids watch them. But no now I try to rationally explain what I think is important in basic dispassionate terms. To be fair though, my kids are busy adults. One in medical school who is smart and has tried to stay with me on politics but his priority is school. Another son, the Trumper, I think says things just to annoy me. He is studying for series 7 exam and doesnt bother with politics.My daughter was devasted after Hillary lost. She isnt a political person but she was profoundly affected by the loss. But she is in medical devices and in the operating room so she has little time for politics. My other daughter is in college and barely tolerates me. My wife, well she dislikes my daughters BF and is obsessed with talking about him. I trade, 5 minutes of BF talk for 5 minutes of Trump.
marlakay
(11,451 posts)With my older daughter last weekend, she has gone from democrat to not voting hates politics both sides are the same. Her boyfriend and all the republicans at work have been wearing her down and I rarely get to really connect.
It makes me sad but from someone who doesnt watch the news or read it its all what you hear.
Pepsidog
(6,254 posts)but I loathe both sided and yea but arguments. Chuck Todd is a chief offender.
Enoki33
(1,587 posts)of intelligence assets in Europe. And he chose so very well, from his POV, when in the 80s he targeted dotard who so perfectly fit Russian MICE (money, ideology, compromise and ego) guidelines. Malcolm Nance has been writing and saying this for a long time now, and today we are beginning to see and acknowledge how right he was and is. Malcolm personifies the meaning of patriotism, as does the other experts on Joys panel quietly shouting a wake up call to the nation. It is extremely difficult to wrap your mind around the fact that the evidence as we know it clearly points to the president being a active agent of the Kremlin. It is the face of the long predicted constitutional crisis.
Gothmog
(145,130 posts)Link to tweet
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akraven
(1,975 posts)Can get on comp with a link, though. I adore her.
erlewyne
(1,115 posts)I have things to do, but I can not turn her off.
Right now I am listening to Malcolm Nance. My problem is
that I am in my seventies, a drafted veteran (vietnam) and
lifelong democrat and union member. I have wanted this
G.O.P rebuttal for years.
I need time to work on taxes and my children's (grandchildren)
happenstance. Trump and Mitch are traitorous distractions.
Now I cannot miss Joy. Time goes by too fast.
Thank you, thank you very much.
erlewyne
(1,115 posts)You have these ten-gallon hats in view. They look silly
because I am careful to make my baseball caps inconspicuous.
Gothmog
(145,130 posts)Link to tweet
?s=20
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