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Sat Jan 12, 2019, 12:18 PM

So theTimes come out with the secret agent story now. Why the 'no clear link' story in 2016?




To hone in: I donít care about an *apology* so much as an *explanation*. NYT screwed up some shit in 2016. Itís OK. It was a hard election to cover. NYT is great. But the ďno clear linkĒ story is literally sort of incomprehensible, in light of subsequent reporting. What happened?

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If the orange menace was even suspected of being a foreign agent why is he not at GITMO?

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Response to deminks (Original post)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 12:19 PM

1. It's nice that Nate's tweet got 28,000 likes :)

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Response to manor321 (Reply #1)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 12:23 PM

3. As I posted on another thread, it will be interesting to see how the Sunday am shows

handle the bombshell. "You can't handle the truth!!!!!!"

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Response to deminks (Original post)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 12:23 PM

2. Hmmm. Maybe it was on purpose so the FBI/Mueller could complete the investigation.

Whether we like it or not, accusing Individual-1 at that time without an airtight case would not have been effective.

Obama trusted our system to work even though damage is being done. I do too.

Mueller has the goods and will present them in such a way that NO ONE will be able to discredit.

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Response to Claritie Pixie (Reply #2)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 12:25 PM

4. I think you're right. If it was in the news that there was a clear link,

the perps would have hidden stuff better and it would have put the FBI at a disadvantage.

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Response to deminks (Original post)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 12:28 PM

5. Easy answer is NYT has been on an anti-Clinton Jihad since

Bill was elected in 1992.

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Response to comradebillyboy (Reply #5)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 02:30 PM

7. NY Times often covers up news instead of covering news.


Among the NY Times disgraces: Judith Miller's phony reporting on Iraq War -propaganda for Cheney and the GW Bush administration.

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Response to comradebillyboy (Reply #5)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 07:14 PM

14. BINGO!

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Response to deminks (Original post)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 01:11 PM

6. Silver is off the mark here. (Not the first time.)

It would have been nuts to report on the information that was available to the FBI then, compared to what evidence is available after 2.5 years of investigation now. NYT likely had very little info then.

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Response to Grasswire2 (Reply #6)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 02:32 PM

8. agree, remember, the counter intell investigation happened bec. of Comey firing in May 2017

he was suspected because he said nice thing about Russia but even Comey admitted Trump was not under investigation in early 2017

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Response to deminks (Original post)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 02:32 PM

9. Silver is being too kind. Trump operated in NY for decades-

right under the nose of The NY Times-they are part of the old boy network.

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Response to deminks (Original post)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 02:40 PM

10. Because the NYT is a deplorable rag?

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Response to deminks (Original post)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 02:46 PM

11. They were gaming the system?

Pretty sure Hillary would take it, & they had a pretty good idea how both parties would react - why not break a few windows and sell a few more papers?

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Response to deminks (Original post)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 02:46 PM

12. Because tRump and his cronies has some kind of dirt on the powers

that be at the NYT who make the decisions?

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Response to deminks (Original post)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 06:01 PM

13. Absolutely

We need an explanation.

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Response to deminks (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 09:26 AM

15. Because the FBI sources told them there wasn't?

Reality is that no FBI official would have commented on an ongoing investigation and possibly even purposefuly put out disinformation at the time so as not to tip Trump, the Russians and affect any investigation.

A reporter has to go with what their sources says and they believe to be true. So the reporter and newspaper reported what they believed was true and what they had as information.

So it changed - no surprise there - that happens.

Nate Silver is off the mark there.

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