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Sat Jan 12, 2019, 10:17 PM

Wow! Kurt Eichenwald thread about how he started covering Trump/Russia, & his foreign intel sources

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1. With each passing year, people gain a better understanding of what I was writing in my coverage of Trump-Russia before the election. This is the key story, and I am going to begin highlighting things folks now should be to understand far better...
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-vladimir-putin-russia-hillary-clinton-united-states-europe-516895



2...now, the quick criticism of American journalism before I begin. The general reaction from the rest of the press as I wrote these deeply reported stories was "Too crazy to be believed." Then they would return to another Hillary email story. But the information was all....



3...available if people just did the damn reporting. So, I will fill in a few blanks. In September, 2016, I heard through the intel grapevine that a FISA warrant application had been filed related to someone connected to the Trump campaign. (This was proved much later.) I...



4...started calling around and reached key intel sources. I asked "Trump campaign?" No one would answer. Not no comment, not a wave-off. No answer whatsoever. I had never experienced that before. I understood, however, that if the USA had information that would apply to....



5...a FISA warrant application for the Trump campaign, the information either could have come from a foreign intel service or have been shared with a foreign service. So I started contacting intel sources with foreign services.

And whooo-boy. What I heard. This is BEFORE the....



6...election. Our allies, and our partial allies who were enemies of Russia, were going berserk. They had heard endless amounts re: Putin, Trump, and they found Trump's behavior to be inexplicable. They concluded that Trump was either stupid, crazy, or a Russian asset by....



7...being compromised or something else. If you look at this paragraph from my big Russia story, you will see that our allied intel services had concluded that, in his pre-election actions with Trump, Putin had the goal of disrupting NATA, which is exactly what happened....



8...now the phrase there that for the reasons they had to explain Trumps behavior - the last one was "misleading the American public for unknown reasons." I could not write what they actually said, because they did not have enough basis for making a conclusion. But....



9....the "unknown reasons" were that Trump - through extortion, bribery or ideological reasons - was a Russian asset. This was later talked around by another source with British intel service. This person said below:.....



10...now here the person said "there certainly are a lot of conspiracy theories being bandied about." As you may realize, no reporter would let that go without asking. The answer: "That he's been compromised by the Russians." Now, they would not share any info with me to....



11...establish that they knew this. BUT - and here is the big but - NEVER have I received so much cooperation on a story from so many foreign intelligence services. It felt clear to me that they were dying to provide signals to the US that something untoward was going on. And....



12...the refusal even to no comment questions about the Trump campaign was unprecedented in my contact with anyone connected with American intel. In other words, nothing was normal in this. People were clearly unnerved by whatever they knew.

Now, as I was working on this....



13...I received my now-infamous call from an American intel person telling me to watch Sputnik that day, the Russian disinformation site. A falsified document shot through a twitter account that Mueller has identified as controlled by the Russians, was picked up from that....



14...account by Sputnik, and then was recited by Trump, all within the course of three hours. What this means is that, out of the 100s of billions of tweets a day, somehow the Trump campaign nabbed one from a Russian conspirator, or pulled it from a Russian disinformation site...



15...and then publicly recited the false document as fact. My article about this came out within two hours of Trump's recitation. Sputnik launched an attack on me, and almost immediately, the Trump campaign was emailing links to the Sputnik attack on me to the reporters....


16...covering the campaign. When I proved Trump had violated the Cuban embargo, the campaign stayed silent. When I revealed he was doing business with the son of an individual who was laundering money for the Iranian military, he stayed silent. When I exposed his enormous...



17...conflicts in his international dealings that would threaten national security if he was elected, he stayed silent. They ONLY went after me when I pointed out they had seized Russian disinformation, and they used an article in a Russian disinformation site to do it.....



18...the bottom line: Our allies don't trust him. Never have. They believe he is working in tandem with Putin for the purpose of tearing apart NATO. The evidence was all there to begin with. Maybe, rather than scoffing at real reporting, rather than writing that "the FBI found...



19...no links to Russia in Trump campaign" just a couple of weeks after the primary investigation began (I.E. - they COULDNT have reached a conclusion by that time), maybe if they had stopped obsessing about her emails, and do the reporting to find out what was going on....



20...around the world, we wouldn't be faced with daily "no kidding" surprises.

A final note: When Russiagate finally took off, Newsweek asked me to write stories matching what other outlets were saying. I pointed out - it was all in my original story. So, for the first time....



21...in my career, and perhaps for first time in Newsweeks history, to "catch up" to story, we reprinted what he had published so many months before, pointing out that this was all known pre-election.

Yah, bugs me. Reporters need to report, not conclude without reporting.

Done.






Eichenwald hasn't finished the thread yet. I'll continue adding to this as he adds more tweets.

Okay. Looks like he's finished the thread with that 21st tweet.


Editing again to add that Eichenwald posted an addendum later, which Rhiannon12866 linked to in her reply (reply 7) below.

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Reply Wow! Kurt Eichenwald thread about how he started covering Trump/Russia, & his foreign intel sources (Original post)
highplainsdem Jan 12 OP
highplainsdem Jan 12 #1
elleng Jan 12 #2
scarletwoman Jan 12 #3
IllinoisBirdWatcher Jan 12 #4
ffr Jan 12 #5
mucifer Jan 12 #6
Rhiannon12866 Jan 12 #7
highplainsdem Jan 13 #9
Rhiannon12866 Jan 13 #11
Pepsidog Jan 12 #8
Bernardo de La Paz Jan 13 #19
MBS Jan 13 #30
Scurrilous Jan 13 #10
yardwork Jan 13 #12
vlyons Jan 13 #13
catbyte Jan 13 #14
superpatriotman Jan 13 #15
AlexSFCA Jan 13 #16
Cha Jan 13 #17
highplainsdem Jan 13 #18
Hermit-The-Prog Jan 13 #20
NewJeffCT Jan 13 #21
duforsure Jan 13 #22
Merlot Jan 13 #37
Scurrilous Jan 13 #23
BlancheSplanchnik Jan 13 #24
czarjak Jan 13 #25
Hortensis Jan 13 #26
emulatorloo Jan 13 #27
underpants Jan 13 #28
dawn frenzy adams Jan 13 #29
donkeypoofed Jan 13 #31
greatauntoftriplets Jan 13 #32
blaze Jan 13 #33
malaise Jan 13 #34
EndGOPPropaganda Jan 13 #35
highplainsdem Jan 13 #39
Roland99 Jan 13 #36
tclambert Jan 13 #38
SunSeeker Jan 13 #40
thesquanderer Jan 14 #41
NewJeffCT Jan 14 #42
Blue_Tires Jan 14 #43

Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 10:28 PM

1. Kicking, now that he's finished posting the thread.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 10:30 PM

2. Thanks

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 10:31 PM

3. I'll kick this, too - now I'll finish reading your post. nt

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 10:44 PM

5. Phuck yeah! K&R

I remember all of those articles and his timeline perfectly. The news kept on Hillary to keep the race close. It was the only thing they had on her, the old dead horse story that had nothing to do with the election, but they lead with it every chance they had to keep tRump in the race. And look what the M$M did!

Great reporting Kurt!

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 10:53 PM

6. Rachel was following him so we heard about it on her show.

It really seemed like he wouldn't be President. But, stories like this and all the NYT stories about trump's businesses somehow didn't matter neither did the pussy grabbing. It's all so bizarre.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 11:52 PM

7. One more:

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Response to Rhiannon12866 (Reply #7)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 12:00 AM

9. Thanks! Just edited the OP to point out your reply here.

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Response to highplainsdem (Reply #9)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 12:05 AM

11. Looks like it's an afterthought, but I thought you'd want to include it.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 11:57 PM

8. We are currently living in the twilight zone. I spent all day arguing with my wife and kids cause

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they think Im nuts. They are Dems but are so desensitized that nothing seems to matter. Is it me, am I crazy or is this a huge Fing deal? My goodness the apathy is heartbreaking I hate Republicans and Fox for doing this.

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Response to Pepsidog (Reply #8)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 12:02 PM

19. Your analytical assessment is assembled from fact. Yes, it is a huge F'ing deal. . . . nt

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Response to Pepsidog (Reply #8)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 04:04 PM

30. yes, HFD, for sure.

I share your distress about friends and family members who "are so desensitized that nothing seems to matter."

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 12:03 AM

10. Epic!

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 12:23 AM

12. Kick to read later.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 12:45 AM

13. "doing business with the son of an individual who was laundering money for the Iranian military"

That's the one that got me. But on reflection, Trump would do business with Lucifer for a buck. Surely Tom Cotton and John Bolton must puke over that. Guess not. Oh well ...

I must say, my patience is getting sorely taxed

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 12:52 AM

14. He added an addendum:



22....actually, an addendum. The foreign intel sources named three particular people they were most concerned about. Read em....from pre-election. Names familiar? pic.twitter.com/DORIz4ZKc0

9:35 PM - Jan 12, 2019

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 12:55 AM

15. Kicked

She tried to tell us

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 01:24 AM

16. Collosal failure of US intelligence services

When all is done, Comey should face trial for gross negligence.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 03:26 AM

17. KICK!

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 11:19 AM

18. kick

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 12:12 PM

20. Eichenwald and Olberman were drowned out by "but her emails"

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 12:20 PM

21. Hopefully, Kurt will get a Pulitzer, or more, if this ever reaches a good conclusion

for the US.

And, by the way, Seth Abramson has been saying much the same was Eichenwald all along, and he is getting almost all of his information from news sources that are public. The story is just so vast in scope that it's hard for the day-to-day reporter to get a grasp of what is happening.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 12:46 PM

22. How long before we learn

Maria Butina was planted in the audience with trumps knowledge what she would be asking him? HE was clearly involved deeply with putin's plan, and this will expose him as a willing participant acting with a spy for putin to promote him as a candidate. Putin's done this elsewhere before. Manafort turning polling information to putin will also eventually expose trumps knowledge that he was also involved in the undermining of our election helping putin , because he had to, or else.

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Response to duforsure (Reply #22)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 08:19 PM

37. I thought it was a given that she was a plant, with trumpfts knowledge

The room was full, and he picked her to ask a question?

"Look for the red-head."

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 01:54 PM

23. ...

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 02:18 PM

24. Kicking and saving

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 02:23 PM

25. "Russia, if you're listening"?

In plain sight!

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 02:33 PM

26. Right after Eichenwald's long series of articles on Trump's finances

in 2016 or 2017 for Newsweek, I noticed that his reputation took a major dive, with many respectable sources, including Vanity Fair and MSNBC, publishing unflattering stories and denying that he was associated with them. Many, varied allegations were made by them and others that severely undermined his credibility as a journalist.

I have not researched and have no opinion on this. I merely point out that this widespread wave of accusations against him occurred when it did.

Some of the accusations seem credible. I remember an Eichenwald tweet that he believed Trump had been admitted to a psychiatric hospital in the 1990s but couldn't prove it -- only to have him delete and deny it later, claiming it was a "joke." No, it was not.

But "Even a paranoid can have enemies," as Henry Kissinger pointed out. Eichenwald had worked for the NYT for 20 years in another period of his life.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 02:44 PM

27. Kicking and Rec. Eichenwald did stellar reporting on Trump before the election

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 02:45 PM

28. A. Not concrete but damning. B. Yes it was obvious C. Steele heard/intuitively knew the same info

Notice Trump didn't say NO when asked by the normally lapdog Pirro last night.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 03:54 PM

29. I REMEMBER!

In September 2016, Eichenwald dropped a story on Trump's finances. His conclusion was they were a threat to national security. But the day the story launched, the M$M ignored it. Instead, it was wall to wall coverage of Trump and Dr. Oz. The M$M has yet to be held accountable for helping Trump get elected.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 04:23 PM

31. Awesome post, OP. Thank you !

Thar was very edifying.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 05:32 PM

32. K&R

My jaw is still on the floor.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 07:27 PM

33. Damn. The Newsweek article from 11/4/16 is astounding.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 07:38 PM

34. A must read thread

K & R

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 07:52 PM

35. Next: Brexit and Putin. Why haven't we heard more about this?

The UK has the same Putin-attack problem that the US does.

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Response to EndGOPPropaganda (Reply #35)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 10:21 PM

39. So does France, if what I'm reading about Russian involvement with the Yellow Jackets is true.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 08:18 PM

36. Need him, Seth Abramson and Josh Marshall to put out a series of videos

And podcasts and get on M$M interviews daily and...

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 10:14 PM

38. But Trump says he is not Putin's puppet.

Pretty sure Putin told him to say that.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 10:34 PM

40. Yep. We knew Trump was a Russian asset before the election.

We knew this when the Trump campaign changed the RNC platform to delete military support for Ukraine. That was the summer of 2016.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 09:42 AM

41. Is this available on a threadreader page? Link please? Thanks! (n/t)

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 09:50 AM

42. He added another thread later about his long history of Donald Trump

from when he started as a reporter at the NY Times as a tryout there in fall 1987- Trump calls up the nobody reporter (at the time) and threw a bunch of BS at him.

I'll see if I can find the link later.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 10:57 AM

43. brilliant!

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