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Sat Jan 12, 2019, 11:57 PM

My husband thinks Trump will defect to Russia.

But I think he's being a little dramatic. I'm right, right?

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Reply My husband thinks Trump will defect to Russia. (Original post)
NurseJackie Jan 2019 OP
benld74 Jan 2019 #1
Rorey Jan 2019 #13
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Response to NurseJackie (Original post)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 11:58 PM

1. Do you really think Putin would take him?

That would be admitting everything

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Response to benld74 (Reply #1)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 12:16 AM

13. Putin will have no reason to take him

Individual 1 will no longer be useful to him.

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Response to Rorey (Reply #13)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 12:38 PM

51. Of course he will embrace and reward him

That is what you do with spy’s, as an enticement to those willing to follow that path.

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Response to denbot (Reply #51)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 02:12 PM

59. Jan 2021 look for his last state visit as president to be Moscow

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Response to benld74 (Reply #1)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 03:50 PM

65. Putin may take him

 

simply because he may spill the beans on the whole operation as well as Brexit that he may have learnt from Nigel Farage.

Putil will promptly "resettle" him in some off-the-beaten-path place in Siberia.

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Response to NurseJackie (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 12:00 AM

2. Ironic if Trump's destiny is in seeking assylum

And what will happen with his kids..??

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Response to NurseJackie (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 12:00 AM

3. Makes you kind of wonder eh? What in the world would rump even ask for from ...

Russia, other than being bribed w/ a pee tape (or worse). Worse is doing it w/ children ... what else would force someone of his stature to do something like this?

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Response to NurseJackie (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 12:02 AM

4. Treason has severe penalties!

drumpf may have no other choice. Exile in Putinville, Russia!

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Response to NurseJackie (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 12:03 AM

5. Putin would not touch him with a 50 foot poll. That would be like admiting

they were fucking with our elections etc. Even though everyone knows it, taking Trump in would look terrible for them.

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Response to NurseJackie (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 12:04 AM

6. Trump is trying to pwn the USA.

Your husband's theory shouldn't be ruled out, but Trump has no property in Russia(afawk), and Putin already pwns Trump. I kinda think suicide is more likely if Trump feels his freedom will be restricted further than it already is. He's dropping hints about not being happy to be cooped up in the White House lately.

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Response to greyl (Reply #6)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 03:35 AM

37. This has been my thinking too

Or could be possible Dump hasn't delivered a promise he said he'd do and Putin sent people to kill dump? He's scared to go out?

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Response to greyl (Reply #6)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 07:11 AM

40. Was thinking about that too...nt

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Response to greyl (Reply #6)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 02:56 PM

62. I think it's unlikely such a narcissistic egomaniac would ...

... take his own life. He would be more likely to end up in Saudi Arabia after he leaves office. Probably with most of the family.

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Response to NurseJackie (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 12:07 AM

7. No. He's being a lot dramatic.

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Response to NurseJackie (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 12:08 AM

8. He would no longer be of any use to Russia.

If he can depart with the taxpayer money to build his wall, some nation would gladly take him and his family though.

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Response to NurseJackie (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 12:08 AM

9. If he defected to Russia, while still POTUS

Then he would be admitting that he is a Russian agent.

If he is identified as an agent of Russia, and proven to be, then he defects to avoid USA justice, one can only say (and I hope it does not come to that) .... there are drones that can track him until we can return him home to face justice.

But a bigger question to me is this...... what do we do to Russia???? This cannot go unpunished.

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Response to NurseJackie (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 12:12 AM

10. Nah

He’s gonna defect to Florida.

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Response to BeyondGeography (Reply #10)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 12:32 AM

21. Exile to "Gitmo"?

Or have Mar-A-Lago taken over by the Federal prison system. Might be able to place some other high profile criminals there. There are plenty of potential "trustys" in protective Fed. custody, for child molestation, sexual assault, etc that will toady up to the "Premium Inmates".

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Response to NurseJackie (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 12:12 AM

11. If Trump feels the need to defect, then Putin will be well and truly done with him.

That rarely ends well.

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Response to NurseJackie (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 12:16 AM

12. A little on the dramatic side.

On the other hand, his behavior is so erratic nothing would shock me.

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Response to NurseJackie (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 12:21 AM

14. I am hoping he's damm straight being pragmatic. I have the

words bye-bye on the tip of my tongue. He's right! Right?

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Response to NurseJackie (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 12:22 AM

15. Brazil has better weather.

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Response to NurseJackie (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 12:23 AM

16. I've been thinking where Trump might go. (He really should go somewhere.)

It would need to be somewhere from which the US cannot extradite and to which he could quickly move his money.

Russia meets that requirement and a dacha near Sochi would be comfortable enough. But he would have to be concerned that Putin would find him an embarrassing and he could have an "accident."

Trump has made himself so unpopular in the world, that all the possible countries I can imagine are real shit holes.

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Response to NurseJackie (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 12:24 AM

17. How about this..?


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Response to albacore (Reply #17)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 12:35 AM

22. More like a fishing shack on the Kamchatka peninsula

At that point, that's about the quality of the accommodations he would rate.

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Response to JHB (Reply #22)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 01:03 PM

56. That would be nice.

 

Putin can build him a place to live on the Kura Missile Test Range. They don't use it as much as they used to.

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Response to NurseJackie (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 12:25 AM

18. Trump also likes North Korea and China

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Response to emulatorloo (Reply #18)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 02:46 AM

35. china has too much to lose by taking him in but NK might do it

 

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Response to NurseJackie (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 12:27 AM

19. A swan dive from his ivory tower?

Putin has no need for assets that are are no longer useful to him. Putin has a history of this. No wonder don is terrified. Tick Tock.

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #19)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 07:14 AM

42. Swan dive...

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Response to 2naSalit (Reply #42)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 07:50 PM

66. ;)

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Response to NurseJackie (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 12:28 AM

20. I think if the shit gets criminally real, AF-1 will fly to Moscow and come back a few people less.

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Team Husband on this one.

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Response to TheBlackAdder (Reply #20)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 07:14 AM

41. Bet the pilot wouldn't do it.

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Response to NurseJackie (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 01:26 AM

23. Well...Only if he can't get a Pardon deal....but even then...

....imagine this.

"Trump leave the White House under cover and without the Secret Service to Reagan National. His personal plane, not Air Force 1, with Trump emblazoned on the side of it is fueled and ready to Taxi and the airport is under orders to let this plane ahead of the line as a matter of national security, holding a VIP from un-named country aboard. It takes off...to Russia, not to Moscow, but a remote airfield near Moscow.

Trump then requests asylum. Putin, smiles. Another gift landing right into his lap. If he accepts, he could say that the legitimate Executive of the USA was ran out and the USA is now under a corrupt government. This gives him more clout with Ukraine...but how much...probably not much...and not worth the trouble....no matter how much of a black eye the USA receives. But its option 1.

He could refuse, have his jet refueled and tell him to get the fuck out of here. Trump could return to the USA and under cloak and dagger, act like it never happened. No gain there...but that's option 2.

Like option 2, however, Trump is in such deep shit, he can't go back. So he runs to a different country that does take him. Putin can then say, he sought asylum...and refused. Giving him some cred in the world stage. That's option 3.

The next option, accept his asylum...tentatively and under secrecy. Then when everyone is asking where he is, sends out a message via back channels that they have Trump under house arrest when he entered Russia illegally. Cut a deal to get some sanctions removed and Putin extradites Trump back to the US. That's option 4.

Are there more options? Fairly sure. But, again, this is dependent on Trump getting a pardon. But if you ask me, he'll get it. Because whoever is next in line will be briefed on the possible embarrassing options to the country...and will weigh the risks of just getting him out of the way vs. another national embarrassment.

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Response to Xolodno (Reply #23)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 02:50 PM

61. Trump becomes a de facto Government in Exile, and broadcasts insurrection messages from Moscow

This would be inline with Putin’s goals of dividing the U.S. If you’re rolling your eyes as you read this, do you really think the Fox News Nation will admit to being ignorant dupes, or continue the delusion that they are the real patriots?

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Response to NurseJackie (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 01:47 AM

24. I posted earlier asking that very question.

When you think about it, though, what use would Putin have for an ex-prez? Not only that, 45 cannot be trusted with anything. Someone suggested that 45 may have an "accident" once Putin is done with him.

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Response to NurseJackie (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 01:54 AM

25. Maybe we should deport him to Russia.

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Response to NurseJackie (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 02:00 AM

26. offshore funds

I do too. I really believe he was the recipient of a $1Billion commission on Putin's sale of 19% of Rosneft. All the drama that surrounds him serves one purpose, namely to stall, while the tRump organization stiffs suppliers and offshores cash flow. Who knows, he could have $2Billion socked away overseas. Then, he walks into Mueller's office. Mueller says the Secret Service will look the other way if the family leaves peaceably.

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Response to NurseJackie (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 02:13 AM

27. He'll have a "heart attack" or similar first

I'm doubt Putin wants his sorry ass once he's no use to him.

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Response to nini (Reply #27)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 02:20 AM

30. a fall from a high window. a poisoned door knob.

It's the Russian way.

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Response to Grasswire2 (Reply #30)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 02:25 AM

32. I hope he knows it too

I want him to suffer...bigly.

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Response to NurseJackie (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 02:16 AM

28. Mine thinks so too

unless his handler (Melania) gets other instructions.

Besides, he's probably too far in debt to get to go to Moscow.

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Response to NurseJackie (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 02:19 AM

29. I think Mueller will see that Trump must be rendered penniless and powerless.

Otherwise the bile in the family will spill out in ugly dangerous ways again.

People close to him say he lives for revenge. It fuels him.

And so he must be made incapable of seeking it.

Choose one, Trump

The Manafort solution?

Or the Rosenberg solution.

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Response to Grasswire2 (Reply #29)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 07:16 AM

43. +1

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Response to NurseJackie (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 02:23 AM

31. Nobody wants him.

He's no good to anybody.

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Response to StarryNite (Reply #31)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 07:17 AM

44. He's always been

a waste of good air which should be put to better use by endangered species.

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Response to NurseJackie (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 02:43 AM

33. I don't even how much longer he'll live; too much aderalll

for his age.

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Response to NurseJackie (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 02:45 AM

34. Putin doesn't like him but then i realized how Putin could use him to mock the US

 

he would show Trump on tv and have him attack the US.

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Response to NurseJackie (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 03:31 AM

36. I don't think Russia would let him in.

What good would he be to them?
It would be a political mess and he would be nothing but a drain on resources while contributing nothing.
Putin doesn't want that jerk anywhere near Russia once he's out of power in the US.

No. He may want to but he'd never be able to do it.

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Response to NurseJackie (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 04:27 AM

38. Maybe that was his ultimate dream reason for having Trump Tower Moscow....

That he will live out his last years in a golden penthouse tower in Moscow with his Putin next door.....

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Response to NurseJackie (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 05:14 AM

39. It depends on how much money Trumpy owes

to the oligarchs.

Trumpy is being charged interest including late payment penalties. If he’s not in good standing with these savages, they’ll clean his teeth for him in a very efficient manner. We’re I in Trumpy’s shoes, defecting to Russia is another way of saying “suicide.”

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Response to NurseJackie (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 09:06 AM

45. Philippines or Saudi Arabia

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Response to NurseJackie (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 09:11 AM

46. He's being very overdramatic.

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Response to NurseJackie (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 11:33 AM

47. This could happen

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Response to NurseJackie (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 11:47 AM

48. Wishful thinking.

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Response to NurseJackie (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 12:00 PM

49. That would be OK with me. The sooner the better, really.

I can hear Vladimir Putin very clearly in the future:

"Добро пожаловать в Россию, Дональд. Мы подготовили для вас прекрасную дачу в живописном Новосибирске. Эти господа сопроводят вас до вашего лимузина. Вы будете в самолете до Новосибирска в течение часа. Пейзаж там безмятежный и мирный."

Translation:

"Welcome to Russian, Donald. We have prepared a lovely dacha for you in scenic Novosibirsk. These gentlemen will escort you to your limousine. You'll be on a plane to Novosibirsk within the hour. The scenery there is serene and peaceful."

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Response to NurseJackie (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 12:38 PM

50. The only thing he wants from Russia

is their money. On the other hand he should be banished to Russia

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Response to NurseJackie (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 12:43 PM

52. For Trump I'll go with:

Saudi Arabia

Prison

Suicide

All these mother fuckers who worked with and for Russia, screw with our elections,
and broadcast "real" fake news like Fox News deserve prison and or disgrace. That includes
the Mercers, Bannon, McConnell, Ryan, Rove, and Hannity.

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Response to NurseJackie (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 12:52 PM

53. No. Because that would require him

understanding to what extent he's actually been an agent for Russia. Which he, I am sure, does not believe at all. He thinks that everything he's done has been his own idea, and because he knows very little about anything, has no clue where those ideas came from. If he's very, very lucky, he will be allowed to leave the White House and live in whatever properties he currently owns. Like Richard Nixon, he'll live in this country, but unlike Richard Nixon (who I thought should have died in prison) he will not be rehabilitated.

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Response to NurseJackie (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 12:52 PM

54. The second he's not POTUS, he's going to be indicted...

and for all practical purposes, he is in the custody of the Secret Service now. I don't see how he has the means or opportunity to defect, even if he has a motive to do so. Especially since Trump is world-class incompetent and cannot do anything for himself, he'd be relying on other people to arrange his travel -- which amplifies the opportunities for those who would stop him to learn what he's up to and intervene.

Also, once he's no longer POTUS, he does Putin more good (remember Putin's goal is strife within the US to weaken us in general an distract us from our egagement with the rest of the world) by being charged, tried, and convicted than he does being a Snowden-style defector. So Putin has no incentive to accept Trump as a defector.

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Response to NurseJackie (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 12:57 PM

55. He's in debt to the Russian mob.

He owes Putin money, he owes everyone money. He will learn what 'loyalty' means when he's broke.

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Response to NurseJackie (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 01:05 PM

57. I wish...

...but don't think that's very likely. Is your husband usually right about stuff?

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Response to NurseJackie (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 01:09 PM

58. Why Would They Want Him When He Has Nothing More To Offer?

He'd be leading the life of Snowden

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Response to NurseJackie (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 02:29 PM

60. I think he is gonna weasel out of it some how and go work for Fox News...

MSM love to present him and it would be a feather in FauxNoise cap...
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Response to NurseJackie (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 03:12 PM

63. If Trump went to Russia, he would get a Polonium enema in the first 24 hours.

 

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Response to NurseJackie (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2019, 03:48 PM

64. Trump was not the only one helped by Putin

 

There were obviously other presidential candidates who got the benefit of fake news postings at sites like DC Leaks and Russian bot swarms.

Maybe they will defect too!

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