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Mon Jan 14, 2019, 04:15 PM

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Rockets Into Social Media Stardom

The youngest woman to ever serve in Congress, 29-year-old Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, has zoomed into the social media stratosphere. She accounted for more Twitter interactions in a month than the top five media companies combined, according to CrowdTangle data, reports Axios.

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https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ocasio-cortez-new-queen-of-social-media_us_5c3bf035e4b01c93e00b0a42

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Response to BluesRunTheGame (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 04:22 PM

1. She has become the voice of her generation.

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Response to Voltaire2 (Reply #1)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 04:28 PM

2. That's a pretty big stretch

And a really unfair burden to put on her.

She's a prominent voice and an important one, but by no means is she THE voice of an entire generation.

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Response to EffieBlack (Reply #2)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 04:39 PM

3. You know how the media is; if they will it that's it. She's a star!!!! n/t

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Response to monmouth4 (Reply #3)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 05:53 PM

42. I wonder if she's afraid to separate from the radical groups

that worked for Sanders and which she's still associated with. It would be a natural step for someone who'd just rocketed into the U.S. House of Representatives and was already deep in its learning experience. And she has shown signs of respecting and wanting to cooperate with her new colleagues.

But these men, who now run her DC congressional operation, as well as back in NY, are IT experts and social media manipulators. What they helped do to Hillary and our congressional and senatorial candidates in 2016, they could do to her if she tried to break free.

If they chose, of course. But they know Russia used them to help put Republicans in control of the nation, and they haven't denounced the Kremlin or shown any more respect for the Democratic Party than Trump has.

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #42)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 09:38 PM

80. I doubt that she'll separate from them.....

She was one of the first two members of the Justice Democrats board. The person who now runs her DC Congressional operation, her chief of staff, was the other (he was also her campaign manager).

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #42)

Tue Jan 15, 2019, 09:16 AM

161. "Radical"...wtf?!

 

that sounds like a right wing smear right there..

"russia".. good god, now that too?? wth??

Am I on a Dem site anymore or is this... i don't even know any of their sites anymore... is stormfront still around

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Response to disillusioned73 (Reply #161)

Tue Jan 15, 2019, 11:16 AM

184. About "Justice Democrats"

“The solution is not unity with the corporate-backed Democrats…It’s time to rebuild the Democratic Party from scratch.”

That statement would not fly from a DU member on DU, precisely because it is a Dem site.

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Response to ehrnst (Reply #184)

Tue Jan 15, 2019, 11:58 AM

191. The Justice Democrats philosophy of "destroy to rebuild" makes as much sense as...

The Justice Democrats philosophy of "destroy to rebuild" makes as much sense as someone burning down their own house because the discovered a leaky faucet. It's dangerous vanity. I distrust anyone who's associated with that GOP-funded Cenk Uygur and any of his groups.

That statement would not fly from a DU member on DU, precisely because it is a Dem site.
You're absolutely correct about that.

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Response to EffieBlack (Reply #2)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 04:51 PM

9. Lulzd.

Yup. So unfair. Is she even old enough to tweet?

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Response to Voltaire2 (Reply #9)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 04:59 PM

18. An occasional "Lulzd" can make a point

But your consistent use of it just looks childish.

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Response to EffieBlack (Reply #18)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 10:05 PM

88. Lulz and lulzd are terms of derision.

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Response to George II (Reply #88)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 10:30 PM

101. Ok.

If you say so.

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Response to Voltaire2 (Reply #101)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 10:40 PM

105. I don't say so: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Talk:lulz

This is not just an alteration of lol. This word is unique in the fact it is only used when laughing at the expense of another.

A use of the word is "I did it for the lulz!" referring to the act of harm, disruption, or general pranks and shenanigans to a group, someone or something. These acts are commonly used to offend or shock viewers and readers.

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Response to George II (Reply #105)

Tue Jan 15, 2019, 05:13 AM

149. So you disagree with yourself?

Interesting.

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Response to Voltaire2 (Reply #149)

Tue Jan 15, 2019, 09:07 AM

159. Nope.


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Response to George II (Reply #159)

Tue Jan 15, 2019, 09:32 AM

166. Odd.

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Response to Voltaire2 (Reply #149)

Tue Jan 15, 2019, 11:18 AM

185. Strawmen:

When you have nothing to rebut an argument with, but want "the last word."

Odd.

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Response to ehrnst (Reply #185)

Tue Jan 15, 2019, 01:52 PM

206. No that is not what a strawman argument is.

Perhaps google would help.

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Response to Voltaire2 (Reply #206)

Tue Jan 15, 2019, 02:07 PM

209. Yes it is.

You say google, but I don't think that word means what you think it does.

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Response to EffieBlack (Reply #18)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 10:23 PM

94. Lol.

There see, I mixed it up a bit.

All I can do here is chuckle at the absurd posturing. It isn’t like there is an actual discussion going on. Make a serious point and I’ll respind seriously.

Otherwise I’ll just Lulzd, thanks.

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Response to Voltaire2 (Reply #94)

Tue Jan 15, 2019, 11:20 AM

186. Lulz.

Tag, you're it!

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Response to ehrnst (Reply #186)

Tue Jan 15, 2019, 01:53 PM

207. Again, not a strawman argument.

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Response to Voltaire2 (Reply #207)

Tue Jan 15, 2019, 02:06 PM

208. Again, yes it was.

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Response to Voltaire2 (Reply #9)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 10:23 PM

93. actually there should be an age ceiling on Twitter

Anyone born before June 15, 1946 can't tweet.

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Response to crazycatlady (Reply #93)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 10:25 PM

95. I admit to not understanding about 90%

of it. I use reply all’s yes yes yes segments to get some clues.

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Response to Voltaire2 (Reply #1)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 04:44 PM

4. Oh my god. Seriously?

the voice of her generation.
Oh my god. Seriously?


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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #4)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 04:49 PM

6. I know, it must be just agony for some.

These kids.

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Response to Voltaire2 (Reply #6)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 04:54 PM

12. ...

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #12)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 07:20 PM

60. You might want to check out this post

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211670242#post18

A one trick pony isn't very impressive.

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Response to Voltaire2 (Reply #6)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 05:29 PM

27. Your declaration causes "agony for some?"

Really?

You must be very influential.





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Response to Voltaire2 (Reply #6)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 05:32 PM

30. Seriously!! So much for the "big tent."

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Response to InAbLuEsTaTe (Reply #30)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 05:44 PM

36. The "big tent" is always open for anyone who wants to enter...

30. Seriously!! So much for the "big tent."
The "big tent" is always open for anyone who wants to enter. I hate to be the one to break it to you, but the party's "big tent" doesn't mean that the party is going to pull up stakes and move the entire tent on a whim or to satisfy everyone who thinks the party owes them something.

So... WELCOME! Come on in! The tent is open! The Democratic party welcomes anyone who wants to work and volunteer and participate. We need loyal members who'll promote the Democratic agenda and platform and all new loyal members who can contribute to the cause and who can generate interest.

All I'm trying to say is that all the negativity and complaining about how "awful" Democrats are, and that democrats are "corrupt" and that Democrats "don't care about climate change" or that Democrats are "do-nothings"... well... that kind of talk only serves to divide and cause distrust. It weakens the party. It certainly doesn't motivate people to join the party. It's that Sarandonesque and Ugyurian philosophy of "divide and conquer" or "destroy to rebuild" that troubles me.

Our party's big tent will always be open to anyone who wants to join us. JOIN US. It's not very realistic for anyone to expect the party to pull up stakes and start chasing down people who are already disrespecting and insulting the party and its leaders.

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #36)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 05:46 PM

38. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #36)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 07:49 PM

68. +1.

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #36)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 08:32 PM

71. Question

"We need loyal members who'll promote the Democratic agenda and platform and all new loyal members ... "

Who determines the "Democratic agenda"?

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Response to Horizens (Reply #71)

Tue Jan 15, 2019, 12:17 AM

135. One shouldn't have to ask such a question

 

Democratic agenda has not materially changed since the days of FDR. Progress may have been slow due to the WH or one of the chambers not under democratic control but steady progress has been made over social justice, inequality, LGBT rights, health care, safety nets and environment.

Just because some democrats try to grab photo ops and launch twitter grenades does not mean they are more passionate about these things and only they have an agenda. Thinking that way would take away the credit from past and present democrats who work for these issues every day, albeit silently.

Making noise about the items doesn't mean one is more effective or striving harder. It only means one is making a lot of noise.

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Response to Horizens (Reply #71)

Tue Jan 15, 2019, 12:43 AM

139. If you want to learn about the "Democratic agenda" you can search for

the Democratic Party platform, developed by Democrats, very easily online.

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Response to Horizens (Reply #71)

Tue Jan 15, 2019, 12:55 AM

140. What is a loyal member??

"We need loyal members who'll promote the Democratic agenda and platform and all new loyal members ... "


I would assume that they are Democrats. Aren't they?

Question? You have repeated the word 'loyal' twice. What exactly are you saying and who are you referring to other than a Democrat?

Who determines the "Democratic agenda"?


This one is easy. That would be Democrats.

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Response to Horizens (Reply #71)

Tue Jan 15, 2019, 11:35 AM

189. Well, actually it's a group of people. There are some who seem to think that

they're the smartest person in any room, and everyone should just shut up and do what they say concerning the Democratic Party agenda, and anyone who doesn't fall in line is corrupt. They see disloyalty to them as being disloyal to progress itself.

However, that's the way the GOP and does it, and we don't.

Democrats welcome even those who want to take over and dictate the party platform into the group that together sets that platform and agenda.

Democrats are a coalition of groups, and they are all listened to. The platform lays out the goals combined from those groups - because we know that the goals are important thing, and we'll often need to adjust the tactics and strategies to get there as new information comes in, national events occur, administrations change, our demographics change, media and information change, etc.

The Democratic agenda is derived from the platform. Specific legislative agendas will change as needed. For instance, right now we do need to investigate Trump, since we have control of the House. We cannot make everything in the platform the immediate priority, because resources are finite, and there are only so many hours in a day.

Someone can disagree with a particular legislative priority, however, in order to get anything done, we need cooperation and teamwork. So there is a person in the House who is elected by their peers to determine the best way forward to get the agenda implemented into law. That person is called the Speaker of the House, or Minority leader depending on if we are in the majority or not, and leads the Democratic Caucus in the House. There is a similar leader in the Senate.

Fighting against the Caucus' agenda is usually counterproductive, as teamwork is the only way anything gets done.



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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #36)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 10:38 PM

104. "The Democratic party welcomes anyone who wants to work and volunteer and participate. "

I couldn't agree more. Golly, she only got into office by sitting back and letting super pacs elect her. These darn millenials don't know what its like to put in a good days work. I don't get me started on how they don't respect their elders!

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #36)

Tue Jan 15, 2019, 03:48 AM

143. Continuing to spread lies about AOC, I see

 

Still waiting for you to list which democrats she called "awful" and "corrupt" and "do-nothings" and "don't care about climate change."

I ask again, why do you get to spread lies about democrats unabated? Just because you've been here awhile and therefore have some clout?

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Response to Palisade (Reply #143)

Tue Jan 15, 2019, 04:35 AM

147. Welcome back!

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Response to Palisade (Reply #143)

Wed Jan 16, 2019, 11:59 AM

221. ...

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Wed Jan 16, 2019, 12:28 PM

223. ...

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #36)

Tue Jan 15, 2019, 11:20 AM

187. +1000.

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Response to InAbLuEsTaTe (Reply #30)

Tue Jan 15, 2019, 10:44 AM

182. The big tent includes the "corporate democrats"

??

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Response to Voltaire2 (Reply #6)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 06:41 PM

53. Yes the some want her to get off their lawn

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Response to crazycatlady (Reply #53)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 08:10 PM

70. I don't mind her on my lawn

In fact, I'm glad she's there because I hear she has some great ideas to help improve on the work we've already done on it. I just wish all of those swooning fans throwing flowers at her and singing "Hosanna!!!" at the top of their lungs would simmer down and either pitch in or get out of the way so she can actually get to work.

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Response to EffieBlack (Reply #70)

Tue Jan 15, 2019, 07:45 AM

155. "swooning fans throwing flowers at her and singing" -- Thank you!

swooning fans throwing flowers at her and singing "Hosanna!!!"


Thank you. You have a way with words that truthfully gets right down to the core of things. I love it!

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #4)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 05:31 PM

29. I Lulzd!

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #29)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 09:16 PM

74. bwahahahahaha!!!!

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Response to George II (Reply #74)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 09:51 PM

83. ;)

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #4)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 06:52 PM

56. Didn't just 13% of her district vote?

Not a big turnout.

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Response to cwydro (Reply #56)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 07:06 PM

58. You make an excellent point.

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #58)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 07:17 PM

59. People seem to think there was some kind of massive turnout and landslide victory.

But nope.

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Response to cwydro (Reply #59)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 07:21 PM

62. And that it had huge national ramifications

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Response to EffieBlack (Reply #62)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 11:22 PM

122. Last I heard there are 435 members of the House, many in very important positions and....

....many with long and distinguished careers as lawmakers.

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Response to cwydro (Reply #56)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 09:28 PM

75. Turnout for the June primary was only 11.8%, she got 6.8% of the registered Democrats....

Voters in New York were confused last year. The major primary in NYS in 2018 was in September, for Governor and the other state-wide offices. Many of the voters were unaware of the fact that there were TWO primaries, the September primary and the much less known primary for Congressional seats in June.

Turnout for the general election was about 2/3 that in 2016.

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Response to George II (Reply #75)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 11:19 PM

120. How is that different than previous elections?

Aren't state and federal primaries always on separate dates in NY?

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Response to progressoid (Reply #120)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 11:34 PM

126. Not until recently. I don't know of any other states that have separate primaries....

To give people an idea of how little known the June primary is, in 2018 turnout state-wide in the two Democratic primaries were:

11% in June
23% in September.

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Response to George II (Reply #126)

Tue Jan 15, 2019, 12:24 AM

136. But they've been doing this since at least 2012.

All those voters were confused too?

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Response to progressoid (Reply #136)

Tue Jan 15, 2019, 12:36 AM

138. Yep! Many of those that I know in New York were unaware of the two primaries....

....(2012 was only three primary cycles ago)

If it wasn't confusing turnout in June wouldn't have been less than half that in the traditional September.

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Response to progressoid (Reply #120)

Tue Jan 15, 2019, 12:11 AM

134. That may change within this legislative session.

Fast start in Albany: Democrats say they will approve voting bills Monday
https://www.democraticunderground.com/106824449

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Response to George II (Reply #75)

Tue Jan 15, 2019, 07:34 AM

153. Thanks!

That’s even worse than I thought.

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Response to cwydro (Reply #56)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 09:57 PM

84. I do believe you are correct.

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #4)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 11:56 PM

128. Sounds like she may have a better sense than some of her fans of the work she has to do to move up

in the ranks.

Good for her.




Tonight, Rep. Steve King was stripped of all his committee assignments for his embrace of white supremacy.

He will not serve on a single committee for the next 2 years of the 116th Congress.

Committee assignments are powerful. Members spend years working for their desired spot.
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I'm glad SHE said it - and not one of us. I can only imagine the reaction if someone else had even suggested she might have to work for years to earn a desired spot on a committee ...

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Response to EffieBlack (Reply #128)

Tue Jan 15, 2019, 12:02 AM

133. Yes, good for her!

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Response to EffieBlack (Reply #128)

Tue Jan 15, 2019, 01:04 AM

141. Bingo!

B. I. N. G. O.!

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Response to Voltaire2 (Reply #1)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 04:50 PM

8. Any evidence to support the statement?

Or just another bumper sticker?

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Response to LanternWaste (Reply #8)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 04:52 PM

10. Sure.

She accounted for more Twitter interactions in a month than the top five media companies combined, according to CrowdTangle data, reports

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Response to Voltaire2 (Reply #10)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 04:53 PM

11. That's not evidence of your premise.

It's simply evidence of popularity.

(if you're unaware of what evidence is and what is required of it, Understanding Evidence by Paul C. Giannelli is a great primer)

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Response to LanternWaste (Reply #11)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 04:54 PM

13. Evidence of popularity on Twitter.

And actually, not even a sign of popularity but of an ability to generate a reaction. Trump probably generates more Twitter engagement, but that doesn't mean he's more popular then Ocasio-Cortez or the voice of his generation.

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Response to EffieBlack (Reply #13)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 04:56 PM

14. Even so.

Jeez... as much as I've come to dig her charisma as well as her positions over the past two months, seems she's hitting Sacred Cow territory with a lot of people.

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Response to LanternWaste (Reply #14)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 04:57 PM

16. It's pretty bizarre, isn't it?

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Response to EffieBlack (Reply #13)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 07:21 PM

61. Didn't that backpack kid "rocket" into social media stardom too?

And that guy that went to the suicide forest?

I’m not sure “social media stardom” is really anything to brag about lol.

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Response to cwydro (Reply #61)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 07:22 PM

65. Kim Kardashian and Ellen DeGeneres each have about 50x the number of followers

But that doesn't make them "voices" of their generation

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Response to EffieBlack (Reply #13)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 10:26 PM

96. Difference is that Trump's generation is overrepresented in politics

AOC's generation will outnumber Trump's by next year. BUt they're severely lacking in Congress.

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Response to EffieBlack (Reply #13)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 11:57 PM

129. As we've learned in the last year or so, "social media" activity....

....can be artificially manipulated by outside sources.

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Response to George II (Reply #129)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 11:59 PM

131. Not to mention that Twitter isn't the real world

Some of the most knowledgeable and influential people I know don't have Twitter accounts.

There is indeed a world beyond social media.

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Response to EffieBlack (Reply #131)

Tue Jan 15, 2019, 12:00 AM

132. I'm 71 years old and have been politically active for 40+ years, just signed up 18 months ago.

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Response to Voltaire2 (Reply #10)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 05:31 PM

28. "Twitter interactions"

Well there you have it!

I've seen many tweets referencing her that you might not want to count as complimentary.

As does DT.

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Response to Voltaire2 (Reply #10)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 09:32 PM

77. 80% of all twitter users are outside the United States, more than 70% are outside her "generation".

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Response to Voltaire2 (Reply #10)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 10:00 PM

85. Twitter?

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #85)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 10:16 PM

90. I know. She's got 0.00 followers on MySpace

And nothing on AIM.

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Response to Voltaire2 (Reply #90)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 10:45 PM

107. OK,

That made me LOL, which made the cat angry at me, who then jumped off my lap and now my legs have fresh claw marks on my legs.

Thanks a lot.

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Response to Voltaire2 (Reply #10)

Tue Jan 15, 2019, 12:06 PM

194. She's far behind Trump on that metric. Does that make him "the voice" of his generation? (nt)

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Response to Voltaire2 (Reply #1)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 04:59 PM

17. If you say so. That settles it, I guess. (nt)

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Response to ehrnst (Reply #17)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 05:32 PM

31. If it were not for the fact that the attention paid to her and Bernie wasnt

as if they were the FIRST to say this or that or think of this or that, and they have NO original ideas, by the way.

They push good ideas but none of them are original.

It is the pretending that they are that is annoying to the people who have worked on this shit for 40 years.

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #31)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 07:21 PM

63. She hasn't had a single original idea? Not ONE?

That's a pretty bold claim.

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Response to Cuthbert Allgood (Reply #63)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 07:23 PM

66. Can you name one?

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Response to EffieBlack (Reply #66)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 10:01 PM

86. I will wait right here.

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Response to EffieBlack (Reply #66)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 10:05 PM

87. Thanks. I can use the company!

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Response to EffieBlack (Reply #87)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 10:28 PM

99. I will try to stay awake.



Ooops~

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #99)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 10:30 PM

102. Lol

Go ahead and close your eyes. I doubt you'll miss anything ...

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Response to EffieBlack (Reply #102)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 10:41 PM

106. :)

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Response to EffieBlack (Reply #66)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 10:47 PM

108. That's cute. You just doubled down on "no original idea."

Like you're not even going to limit to what she has done since the primary.

Well. she won 2nd place Intel's science and engineering international fair, so I'm going to say there was something there that was original. She had a Lopez Fellowship at Boston U. I bet that doesn't come from not having original ideas. She graduated with honors from Boston U. Are you saying that happens with no original thoughts?

Come on. You're better than that.

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Response to Cuthbert Allgood (Reply #108)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 10:55 PM

111. Claiming she must have had an original (albeit unidentified) idea in high school

I guess technically answers my question. But since we were talking about ideas pushed by Members of Congress, which presumes policy or legislative ideas, not an unidentified idea you think they had as part of a prize-winning project they did 12 years ago in high school, it really doesn't.

But that's probably more face-saving than just saying you couldn't come up with anything.

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Response to EffieBlack (Reply #111)

Tue Jan 15, 2019, 10:07 AM

172. I mentioned college, too.

And, nope, the time for "it's just hyperbole" would be when I said it was bold claim and asked again if the claim was that she didn't have one single original idea.

Because the post I responded to (which isn't yours, I know, but you seem to feel the need to be the champion of that person) said, "as if they were the FIRST to say this or that or think of this or that, and they have NO original ideas, by the way. They push good ideas but none of them are original."

Add to that, AOC has never claimed that the ideas she is advocating for are her own. Though she does put some new spin on some of them as well as doing a fantastic job of giving them visibility that others have not been able to do.

And she has actually been sworn in for, what, a couple weeks? Let's give her some time before we judge her as unimaginative and unable to come up with any original ideas.

Oh, how about the "War. What is it good for?" video in response to those that hated her dance. That was pretty damn original and slammed those critical of her pretty well.

I still don't get what isn't to like about this fantastic young Democrat. She's smart, she's passionate, she's progressive, and she brings a lot of people that aren't always active politically into the mix.

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Response to Cuthbert Allgood (Reply #172)

Tue Jan 15, 2019, 12:12 PM

196. I don't get why people get so angry when one doesn't gush about her.

And she has actually been sworn in for, what, a couple weeks? Let's give her some time before it be demanded that she be called the "voice of her generation," or even an effective legislator.

What are the metrics you have on "a lot of people that aren't always active politically" being "brought into the mix."

Can you clarify that definition of the demographic, and what "brought into the mix" means?

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Response to ehrnst (Reply #196)

Tue Jan 15, 2019, 12:13 PM

197. You do know that millennials are underrepresented as voters, right?

You do realize she is engaging millennials (and others)? Take a look at her Twitter reach if you don't understand that.

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Response to Cuthbert Allgood (Reply #197)

Tue Jan 15, 2019, 12:23 PM

199. Millenials were surging in political actions taken from July 2016- July 2017.

In our research, 3,000 millennial study participants shared their political and cause-related perceptions and behaviors last year and since the 2016 U.S. presidential election. In an impressive statistic, those 3,000 millennials reported performing 13,000 actions related to causes and social issues they cared about from roughly July 2016 to July 2017. That's an average of over a thousand actions a month. Moreover, our study showed that a larger percentage of millennials (65 percent) voted in the presidential election than the percentage of the American public (55 percent) did.


https://impact.vice.com/en_us/article/gy57km/millennials-are-engaging-in-political-action-now-more-than-ever

What are the metrics do you have on being "brought into the mix."

Does that mean they are Tweeting more than they did before? is that what you mean by "being in the mix" more than they were in 2016?

Or are you presenting yourself and your feelings about AOC as the metric of millenial excitement and engagement in politics?

Again - if twitter engagement is *the* metric for any sort of success in politics, then Trump is the champ.


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Response to Cuthbert Allgood (Reply #108)

Tue Jan 15, 2019, 12:09 PM

195. Her transcript isn't a metric of political ideology or originality. (nt)

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Response to ehrnst (Reply #195)

Tue Jan 15, 2019, 12:14 PM

198. Didn't claim it was a metric of political ideology.

Do you think one gets second at an international science and engineering contest by not having original thoughts? Or graduates with honors from a major university?

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Response to Cuthbert Allgood (Reply #198)

Tue Jan 15, 2019, 12:25 PM

200. You made the case that she has "original political ideas" because of her scholastic acheivements.

I simply pointed out that that's not the metric of political ideology/originality in her new political job.

Is that clearer?

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Response to ehrnst (Reply #200)

Tue Jan 15, 2019, 12:32 PM

201. No I didn't. Nice try, though.

The claim was that she had "no original ideas." I responded that that was a bold claim. Realizing that the response would be "ok, that was hyperbole, I mean legislation," but that never happened. So I offered an indication that she did, indeed, likely have an original idea in her lifetime.

Is that clearer?

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Response to Cuthbert Allgood (Reply #201)

Tue Jan 15, 2019, 03:51 PM

216. You did.

Read your responses and the posts you responded to.

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Response to ehrnst (Reply #216)

Tue Jan 15, 2019, 04:04 PM

217. I have. I disagree.

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Response to Cuthbert Allgood (Reply #217)

Tue Jan 15, 2019, 04:09 PM

218. Yep. We disagree.

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #31)

Tue Jan 15, 2019, 01:36 AM

142. The thing that distinguishes them is that they don't shut up about the ideal. They continue

 


to sell it to the public. That cannot be overemphasized in value. There are reasons why people from different states, or different positions in the party may make different calculations, and I would agree with their decisions or disagree with them on a case by case basis, but it means something to not let these ideas crawl off and die in some corner of the Capitol.


Actually, that these ideas have been around for so long is only a testament to the fact that rhetoric that champions incremental change will NEVER get us there.

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Response to JCanete (Reply #142)

Tue Jan 15, 2019, 10:08 AM

173. And I think she will bring in a lot of millennials.

A generation plenty of people here want to complain about. But, complaining about someone that is bringing in millennials as being unoriginal is really going to convince the millennials that people care about their voice. Sometimes I'm just dumbfounded.

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Response to Voltaire2 (Reply #1)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 05:28 PM

26. Yes, but, but, she needs mentoring!! LOL, AOC should be doing the mentoring!!

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Response to InAbLuEsTaTe (Reply #26)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 05:45 PM

37. ...

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Mon Jan 14, 2019, 10:32 PM

103. ...

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Response to InAbLuEsTaTe (Reply #26)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 10:52 PM

110. Mentoring on what subjects?

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Response to Voltaire2 (Reply #1)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 08:05 PM

69. That would be encouraging.

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Response to Voltaire2 (Reply #1)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 08:34 PM

72. She is one of the voices.

Some pretty impressive young democrats won seats in 2018. All of them have enormous promise.

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Response to Voltaire2 (Reply #1)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 09:15 PM

73. No she hasn't.

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Response to Voltaire2 (Reply #1)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 10:26 PM

97. Wow, you really hit a nerve

A strong millennial, female, POC voice scares some I guess

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Response to Lordquinton (Reply #97)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 10:28 PM

100. Odd isn't it?

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Response to Lordquinton (Reply #97)

Tue Jan 15, 2019, 10:06 AM

170. Leads me to ponder who is carrying water for whom...

...by adding to the criticism of AOC?

Whether the water bearer knows it or not.

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Response to Voltaire2 (Reply #1)

Tue Jan 15, 2019, 07:37 AM

154. That was also said of Aung Song Suu Kyi.

I think we can reserve judgement on that until she's been tested.

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Response to ehrnst (Reply #154)

Tue Jan 15, 2019, 09:32 AM

165. So you think she is likely going to

collude in genocide after being elected president?

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Response to Voltaire2 (Reply #165)

Tue Jan 15, 2019, 09:40 AM

168. That strawman was very dramatic.

She got much hype and even the Nobel Prize because of what she said and symbolized, but when she got into leadership, her actions didn't live up to it.

That's why I said I'll reserve judgement.

I hope that clears things up for you.

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Response to ehrnst (Reply #168)

Tue Jan 15, 2019, 03:36 PM

212. So you think Ocasio-Cortez will be elected

president, win a Nobel Prize, but then be a disappointment. Perhaps not a collusion in genocide level disappointment.

Ok. I can live with that.

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Response to Voltaire2 (Reply #212)

Tue Jan 15, 2019, 03:46 PM

214. Going for a Daytime Emmy now?

When you truly have nothing to say, but feel a need to post anyway, go big!


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Response to Voltaire2 (Reply #1)

Tue Jan 15, 2019, 07:50 AM

156. That was the joke of "Girls": voice of my generation.

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Response to Voltaire2 (Reply #1)

Tue Jan 15, 2019, 10:18 AM

176. hahahahahahaha

 

Cult leadership in the making right before our eyes.

Making a lot of noise about the issues doesn't mean one is more effective or striving harder.

It only and simply means one is making a lot of noise. That is it.

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Response to Post removed (Reply #5)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 04:50 PM

7. Lulzd.

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Response to Voltaire2 (Reply #7)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 05:08 PM

20. Mueller indictment: Russians engaged in operations...to support Sanders and Trump.

We all know that, and that Russia and the Republicans are using the same tactic of spreading lies and developing useful-idiot candidates to diminish and splinter away support for Democrats right now.

Shouldn't you be hoping to hell that no "voice" of any of our generations becomes a disastrously useful idiot for the Kremlin in 2020 as 2016? Ocasio MUST separate herself from the hostile anti-Democratic Party groups she is currently on the boards of. She MUST not just separate herself from these fringe groups but denounce their avowed purpose of purging and replacing all the representatives Democratic voters have elected with their choices.

The Russians “engaged in operations primarily intended to communicate derogatory information about Hillary Clinton, to denigrate other candidates such as Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio, and to support Bernie Sanders and then-candidate Donald Trump,” according to the indictment

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #20)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 05:12 PM

23. Justice Democrats.

“The solution is not unity with the corporate-backed Democrats…It’s time to rebuild the Democratic Party from scratch.”

That statement would not fly from a DU member.

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Response to ehrnst (Reply #23)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 05:20 PM

24. Yes, and two of JD's men are top staff in her new congressional office.

What goes on in the minds of extremists who'd imagine they COULD rebuild the Democratic Party from scratch? Democrats outnumber them literally thousands to one. This is about disruption, not progressivism.

Strange people who are demonstrated to be willing to throw the nation to our dangerously fascist-leaning Republicans as long as it means purging the Democratic Party of...people like us. People who are trying to save our democracy.

With electoral margins as narrow as they are right now, I believe they're far more dangerous to its continuation than violent extremists could ever be. And doesn't Putin know how well they served his purposes in 2016.

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #24)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 05:26 PM

25. Interesting. Justice "Democrats" indeed. (nt)

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #24)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 05:33 PM

32. Yeah, personally I know what the agenda is and a unified party is not their agenda.

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #24)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 05:41 PM

33. Edmund Burke - you cannot develop a political theory and disrupt a society to test it.

.

This was tried in both France and Russia and both led to disastrous results.

It's best top enhance an existing society or political structure, building on centuries of wisdom and modifications.

The chance of successfully reconstructing, from scratch, is not only remote but stands a strong chance of alienating most.

.

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Response to TheBlackAdder (Reply #33)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 05:43 PM

35. So in conclusion, god save the queen.

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Response to Voltaire2 (Reply #35)

Tue Jan 15, 2019, 10:06 AM

171. Strawmen available at Costco now?

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Response to ehrnst (Reply #171)

Tue Jan 15, 2019, 01:45 PM

205. You do understand that Burke was arguing

for the preservation of monarchy, right?

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Response to Voltaire2 (Reply #205)

Tue Jan 15, 2019, 02:08 PM

210. It wasn't Burke that whipped out a strawman. It was you.

Maybe looking back at the thread will help.

It's like saying to someone who says that, unlike you, they liked Michael Jackson's Thriller album, "So you're OK with pedophiles?"

Then when someone rolls their eyes at you, or points out how ridiculous that statement was, you say, "Well he was a pedophile! Are you saying he wasn't?" as though that makes it any less of a strawman...

Do you see now?


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Response to ehrnst (Reply #210)

Tue Jan 15, 2019, 03:32 PM

211. It was Burke's main argument.

So have a nice day.

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Response to Voltaire2 (Reply #211)

Tue Jan 15, 2019, 03:49 PM

215. Gotcha.

The same logic that says: because MJ was a pedophile, the main thing one is referencing when referencing Thriller is pedophilia.

(See what I did there?)

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Response to TheBlackAdder (Reply #33)

Tue Jan 15, 2019, 10:09 AM

174. But that's such a downer.

Bringing actual history concerning actual revolutions into a discussion is just mean.



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Response to Post removed (Reply #5)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 04:57 PM

15. Ocasio has come into her own.

She's pretty much distanced herself completely from the utter failure that was Our Revolution.

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Response to joshcryer (Reply #15)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 05:08 PM

21. Very involved with Justice Democrats, however.

Until July, Ocasio-Cortez was listed as one of two board members for Justice Democrats, whose PAC mission at the time of launch stated:

“The solution is not unity with the corporate-backed Democrats…It’s time to rebuild the Democratic Party from scratch.”

So there's that.

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Response to ehrnst (Reply #21)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 05:43 PM

34. Ain't no thing.

Just an affiliation that happened while she was paranoid that her seat would be contested.

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Response to joshcryer (Reply #34)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 06:02 PM

44. Josh, unfortunately, they were with the Sanders campaign when she was,

and they were hostile to the Democratic Party then. It's not at all too much to say that they played a small but real part in throwing our government to the Republican Party. Certainly, Russia found them useful.

Once could possibly be a mistake made by very slow and foolish learners, but this is 2019 now and the battle for the soul of our nation has been raging nonstop since 2015 and before.

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #44)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 06:35 PM

51. Believe me, I'm still salty about all that stuff.

But I'm quicker at moving on from primary non-sense. I still won't understand her affiliation with Our Revolution since she was self-made in her district and they only picked up on her in the last 20 days of her campaign (when she was already well ahead of the pack and it was seen that Joe Crowley had all but abandoned his district and took it far for granted).

She's really not damaging the party as a whole and getting people to think. And also riling a lot of people up.

Still not a fan of the Sanders wing and I consider her and others like her (Sharice Davids comes to mind) as distinctly different from the Sanders crony's.

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Response to joshcryer (Reply #34)

Tue Jan 15, 2019, 07:33 AM

152. A check to them for $33,630.66 from her campaign is indeed a thing. (nt)

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Response to joshcryer (Reply #15)

Tue Jan 15, 2019, 10:27 AM

178. She just joined another offshoot cult

 

led by Cenk Uygur and a guy who strived to be a REPUBLICAN representative.

I wonder about the motives of Justice Democrats.

Let's say any DU member wants change to happen faster ... would they start out by reaching out to seasoned democratic leaders with experience and building coalitions or start off by vowing to destroy the entire group of people who have worked on these issues for decades?

What motivates them to want to DESTROY? It may not be a far out speculation to see if a Republican group or even a foreign power is the real puppeteer considering what happened in 2016.

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Response to Post removed (Reply #5)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 05:03 PM

19. Interesting how "Being hated by the RW and drawing their fire" was a disqualfier

for Speaker of the House a mere months ago, even right here on DU.

But now it seems to be a measure of leadership.



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Response to ehrnst (Reply #19)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 05:09 PM

22. Funny how that happened, isn't it?

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Response to EffieBlack (Reply #22)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 05:47 PM

39. I noticed that as well.

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #39)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 05:50 PM

40. It's fine to be a lightning rod whom the RW hates ... UNLESS you have any experience

Then you're just a gas been which needs to move along ...

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Response to EffieBlack (Reply #40)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 06:13 PM

45. I read where someone suggest that the mentoring be reversed!

Absurd and disrespectful.

Throughout my life, I've seen many flash-in-the-pan types who didn't live up to, or fulfill the hype. This isn't new. Whether it's politicians or singers or actors or authors or musicians... many of these "flash" individuals may have gone on to have perfectly respectable careers in their own right. But, when that individual's "fans" and "followers" get overly excited, they drive expectations to laughably unrealistic levels. Then, when perfectly respectable work or performances are measured against the unrealistic expectations, it's a disappointing letdown and the person is viewed as a failure... or a flash-in-the-pan... or a one-hit-wonder, etc etc. So often, it's not necessarily someone's lack of ability to perform, but that the obscenely unrealistic expectations set them up for the appearance of failure. And in that case, it's the fault of the fans and promoters (or other "groups'').

All I'm saying is that the low-key people like Sharice Davids are the ones who take the job seriously and who have earned and deserve MY respect. Anyone who puts the party above their own interests or agenda is someone who will go a very long way. I'm so proud of her, and I know Ms Davids will serve with respect and dignity and loyalty. She doesn't need to smear other Democrats (or the Democratic party) in some sort of misguided effort to make herself seem better. She will serve her constituents (and our nation) well.

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #45)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 06:27 PM

49. +1,000

The other day, folk were actually comparing Ocasio-Cortez to Rosa Parks. Today, it's Dr. King.

Meanwhile, young leaders like Rep. Davids are just putting their heads down, learning the ropes, building allegiances, using social media to communicate, educate and gather information rather than trying to rack up public smackdown points.

It will be interesting who emerges as true, impactful leaders in a few years.

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Response to EffieBlack (Reply #49)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 09:44 PM

81. Compared to Dr. King?

Wow, no words.

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #45)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 10:10 PM

89. Ayanna Pressley as well.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211671721#top


Ayanna Pressley: One for the community.
One for the community
Pressley gets sworn in a second time at Roxbury ceremony.


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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #89)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 10:20 PM

92. Action over tweets!

Just saying.

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #92)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 11:05 PM

113. Yuppers!

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #89)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 11:02 PM

112. Sadly, she's being hounded for her tweet supporting AOC.

Pressley earlier this month tweeted one of Walker's quotes from "The Color Purple" in order to support fellow Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.), who was being mocked for an old video of her dancing.

" 'Hard times require furious dancing,' " Presley tweeted, citing Walker. "#therevolutionwillbetelevised & there will be a soul train line too. So, dance on freedom riders, social justice warriors, disruptors, resisters, persisters, activists & agitators. #AOCDances."

Walker last month faced a barrage of criticism for her endorsement of an anti-Semitic conspiracy theorist, which led to media investigations unearthing poems she had posted to her website promoting anti-Jewish sentiments.

Walker in one of the poems on her website, posted in 2017, claims that the Talmud, a Jewish text, promotes the idea that non-Jewish people are "meant to be slaves of Jews."

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/425264-dem-rep-apologizes-for-quoting-alice-walker-i-was-unaware-of-the-authors-past

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Response to progressoid (Reply #112)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 11:09 PM

116. She was criticized for quoting Alice Walker, not for supporting Ocasio-Cortez

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Response to EffieBlack (Reply #116)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 11:24 PM

123. That's what I said.

Sadly, she's being hounded for her tweet...

I didn't say, "sadly, she's being hounded for her support of AOC."

Regardless, it's sad that this is even a thing.

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Response to progressoid (Reply #123)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 11:45 PM

127. Saying she was "hounded for her tweet supporting AOC" clearly implies

that she was criticized for supporting Ocasio-Cortez, who was actually irrelevant to the criticism.

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Response to EffieBlack (Reply #127)

Tue Jan 15, 2019, 12:32 AM

137. Well sure.

If AOC had't done that Breakfast Club dance and then won an election, there would have been no need for Presley to come to support her with a tweet. Problem solved.

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Response to progressoid (Reply #112)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 11:20 PM

121. And she apologized for that.

Actually love the quote myself.

" 'Hard times require furious dancing,' " Presley tweeted, citing Walker. "#therevolutionwillbetelevised & there will be a soul train line too. So, dance on freedom riders, social justice warriors, disruptors, resisters, persisters, activists & agitators. #AOCDances."


She admitted not knowing..

Walker last month faced a barrage of criticism for her endorsement of an anti-Semitic conspiracy theorist, which led to media investigations unearthing poems she had posted to her website promoting anti-Jewish sentiments.





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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #121)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 11:27 PM

124. Indeed.

The right wing is looking for anything from our new congress to criticize.

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Response to EffieBlack (Reply #40)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 06:24 PM

47. Yes, but I don't think the RW hates this one at all and hopes

she'll help solve their inability to draw youth voters by splitting a critical percentage away from Democrats. Not voting for anyone is a victory for them.

Fwiw, I'm still hopeful that she'll cut loose from those men who declared themselves MY enemy long ago, and demonstrated it. Not sure she can or will, though. Besides whatever they still have in common, these men have grown their power through her and would probably ruthlessly resist losing it.

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Response to ehrnst (Reply #19)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 05:53 PM

43. I noticed that, ehrnst.

Telling.

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Response to ehrnst (Reply #19)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 06:24 PM

48. Who was saying that?

You put this "Being hated by the RW and drawing their fire" in quotations so I'm assuming you have a quote. Speaker Pelosi has been kicking ass recently and I recall the newly elected young progressive Congress people being supportive while some of the older ones formed a group and signed a big bad letter challenging her.

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Response to tonedevil (Reply #48)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 10:19 PM

91. Well there is that.

But those pesky facts just don’t fit the narrative.

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Response to Voltaire2 (Reply #91)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 11:15 PM

118. Sticking to the narrative...

is awfully important after all.

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Response to ehrnst (Reply #19)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 09:33 PM

78. why do you autmoatically assume its the same people posting. If you can actually make that

 


correlation, by all means do so.

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Response to Post removed (Reply #5)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 05:52 PM

41. Maybe Sanders Sees That Too

He was supposed to make an announcement on Jan, 12 and so far... Crickets.

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Response to Me. (Reply #41)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 06:14 PM

46. Sometimes, I like the sound of crickets.

This is one of those times.

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #46)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 06:29 PM

50. The sound of crickets is often preferable ...

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Response to EffieBlack (Reply #50)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 11:31 PM

125. The Sounds of Silence

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #46)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 06:59 PM

57. !!

This!

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Response to Me. (Reply #41)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 06:36 PM

52. 2020 is going to be about women, for women.

Beto, if he choses to run, will be a lone survivor.

If Sanders dares run his campaigns 2016 sexist bullshit will be quickly highlighted and not forgotten.

His people have to know that.

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Response to joshcryer (Reply #52)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 06:48 PM

54. I have less confidence than you with regard to that matter.

His people have to know that.
I have less confidence than you with regard to that matter.

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #54)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 06:52 PM

55. Well, I mean, they also know it'll be profitable.

So there's that.

I mean that guy who ran against Sharice Davids was literally a career campaigner guy. All he did his whole adult life was run peoples campaigns.

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Response to Post removed (Reply #5)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 09:30 PM

76. wow....that's a really silly accusation. We must have a whole lot of Russians in

 

this country. FOX, which has Trump's back at every turn, tireless in its intentionally ignoring or explaining away Russia in every context, must really be dizzy since all it does all day is attack Cortez. You'd think they wouldn't be trying to make her public enemy number one.

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Response to JCanete (Reply #76)

Tue Jan 15, 2019, 09:22 AM

162. Pretzel logic...

 

is fluid that way..

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Response to Post removed (Reply #5)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 09:35 PM

79. Bookmarking. n/t

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Response to BluesRunTheGame (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 07:22 PM

64. Meh

 

Meh. The honeymoon will be over soon. Just like it is after all elections.

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Response to RLC1 (Reply #64)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 07:27 PM

67. The minute she cooperates with anyone in the "establishment,"

casts a vote that's good for her constituents but goes against the purity wing of the party, or puts in for some serious appropriations money to help businesses in her district, some heads will explode around here (or, suddenly those things will no longer be signs of a sellout) ...

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Response to EffieBlack (Reply #67)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 10:28 PM

98. Like when she voted for Pelosi as speaker?

Or not that minute?

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Response to EffieBlack (Reply #67)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 10:49 PM

109. She threw her support to Pelosi on green legislation before she was even sworn in.

But, yeah, go ahead and hope she gets thrown under the bus.

I really don't know why you dislike her so much. She's bright, she doesn't take any shit, and she fights hard for progressive values.

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Response to Cuthbert Allgood (Reply #109)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 11:07 PM

114. What have I said that makes you accuse me of disliking her?

Please be specific.

I actually like her quite a lot and think that, like many of the other young leaders elected to Congress, she has tremendous potential - if she charts and steers the right course and doesn't get caught in the swirl of worshipful adoration that has ensnared some of her fans. I just don't happen to believe she's the party's heroine or a sacred being who can't be questioned and had nothing to learn, which, to some of her more excited fans, reads as hate.

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Response to EffieBlack (Reply #114)

Tue Jan 15, 2019, 05:12 AM

148. Lulzd.

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Response to Voltaire2 (Reply #148)

Tue Jan 15, 2019, 07:56 AM

157. Dude, is that all you know how to say?

Odd.

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Response to cwydro (Reply #157)

Tue Jan 15, 2019, 09:35 AM

167. Only applied when the post is obvious nonsense.

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Response to EffieBlack (Reply #114)

Tue Jan 15, 2019, 10:02 AM

169. Well, whenever I see an OP about AOC

I can write down the names of those that are going to be concerned, or want her to learn her place, or talk about her connection to Bernie, or how plenty of Dems are progressive, or other things to take away from her achievements. Your name would be on that list. And you never disappoint.

If Sanders had ever said what you say about a Dem woman of color, this place would erupt.

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Response to Cuthbert Allgood (Reply #169)

Tue Jan 15, 2019, 10:16 AM

175. Interesting

But you still have offered nothing that I have written that justifies your accusation that I dislike her. You also left off the list the numerous compliments I've given her, but maybe you're among those who assume that any praise for her from anyone who doesn't praise ber constantly is merely a smokescreen or a sly attack ...

In other words, you can't backup your assertion.

But speaking of assertions, here's another chance. Since you have just tacitly accused me of making racist comments about her - which is laughable on its face - please back up your assertion by pointing to anything I have written about Ocasio-Cortez that would cause this place to "erupt" if Bernie Sanders had said the same thing about any woman of color.

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Response to EffieBlack (Reply #175)

Tue Jan 15, 2019, 10:20 AM

177. Nice try. Not taking the bait. And the red herring is laughable.

I never said nor implied that you said anything racist about her. What I actually did say was that if Sanders had said the things about a Dem woman of color that are said on DU, DU would erupt. You will notice I did not say you said that.

And if you don't dislike her, you might want to look at the things you say damn near every time there is an OP. Because that is the vibe you are giving.

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Response to Cuthbert Allgood (Reply #177)

Tue Jan 15, 2019, 10:42 AM

180. Providing proof of an accusation you made isn't "taking the bait"

But falling back on claiming you just got a "vibe" is ...





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Response to Cuthbert Allgood (Reply #109)

Tue Jan 15, 2019, 09:23 AM

163. I think...

 

you just answered your own question..

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Response to Cuthbert Allgood (Reply #109)

Tue Jan 15, 2019, 10:43 AM

181. It is not dislike of her

but being appalled at the grandiose terms used to describe her. Certain elements are always looking for a hero.

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Response to BluesRunTheGame (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 09:48 PM

82. She pisses off conservatives.

They want her off their lawn and out of their bingo hall.

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Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Reply #82)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 11:09 PM

115. their concern....

noted

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Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Reply #82)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 11:11 PM

117. Hahaha!! Yes, just one of MANY reasons AOC is so likable!!

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Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Reply #82)

Tue Jan 15, 2019, 03:51 AM

144. Especially conservatives who call themselves democrats

 

Quite a few of those around these parts, it seems!

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Response to Palisade (Reply #144)

Tue Jan 15, 2019, 04:32 AM

146. Yes, conservatives calling themselves Democrats who say Dems are corrupt and beholden to

corporate lobbyists without a shred of evidence are annoying! I'm sure Ocasio-Cortez will fight these ridiculous accusations against her party.

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Response to betsuni (Reply #146)

Tue Jan 15, 2019, 12:01 PM

192. Got a direct quote?

 

Still waiting on a direct quote from AOC calling dems corrupt.

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Response to Palisade (Reply #144)

Tue Jan 15, 2019, 08:54 AM

158. LOL

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Response to Palisade (Reply #144)

Tue Jan 15, 2019, 12:51 PM

203. Uh huh...

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Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Reply #82)

Tue Jan 15, 2019, 12:02 PM

193. And it seems many on here

I wasn't around when Joe Biden was elected to the Senate at the age of 29. Did he receive this kind of shit? How about 29 year old Paul Ryan?

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Response to BluesRunTheGame (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 11:17 PM

119. She is already inspiring so so many in my real life circles

I think she is wonderful and hope many more like her are elected in the coming years.

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Response to Celerity (Reply #119)

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 11:59 PM

130. I know many people, Democrats, who live in and around the 14th District who are not inspired.

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Response to George II (Reply #130)

Tue Jan 15, 2019, 09:26 AM

164. Tell'm to grab a clipboard..

 

I am sure a conservative will give her a good run for her money..

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Response to George II (Reply #130)

Wed Jan 16, 2019, 10:55 AM

219. To each there own.

Go AOC!

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Response to Celerity (Reply #119)

Tue Jan 15, 2019, 06:29 AM

151. She's a true inspiration, what we need in the party

She's a ray of sunshine in these dark times.

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Response to BluesRunTheGame (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2019, 03:55 AM

145. I saw this movie in 2016.

Didn't care for the ending.



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Response to BluesRunTheGame (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2019, 09:12 AM

160. Attacks on her only make her stronger...

 

so, keep it up right wingers..

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Response to BluesRunTheGame (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2019, 10:37 AM

179. What has social media performance got to do with House of Representatives

performance? Priorities?

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Response to BluesRunTheGame (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2019, 11:12 AM

183. It is hilarious the reaction of some people to AOC

She is pissing off a lot of the right people. Most of the RW nuts hate her already. And then there is our very own faction of "concerned" citizens right here on DU!

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Response to hueymahl (Reply #183)

Tue Jan 15, 2019, 11:30 AM

188. I try to stay out of it for the most part.

What's grimly amusing is the tendency to complain about how much posts about her dominate GD.

Most of that is because of the concerted and extended beatback from some whenever her name appears in an OP, constantly kicking the threads.

It's DU's version of the Streisand Effect!

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Response to hueymahl (Reply #183)

Tue Jan 15, 2019, 11:45 AM

190. There does seem to be a "concern patrol"

 

dynamic to all of this..

I always go into AOC threads just to refute any nonsense & at least show some balance here @ DU (it's not really working though).. as a Puerto Rican it is my duty & my pleasure..

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Response to disillusioned73 (Reply #190)

Tue Jan 15, 2019, 03:37 PM

213. Don't give up. But don't fall for the bait either

Stay civil. Point out nonsense.

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Response to BluesRunTheGame (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2019, 01:34 PM

204. AOC

 

Ocasio-Cortez is the real deal. We need many more like her in Congress.

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Response to socalsun (Reply #204)

Wed Jan 16, 2019, 11:47 AM

220. welcome to DU!

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Response to BluesRunTheGame (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2019, 12:28 PM

224. Unlike Trump

she actually provides factual information. And isn't an a**hole.

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