How are furloughed federal workers going to afford food, gas and child care if they are forced

[Augiedog]

back to work without pay?

When millionaires and billionaires tell dollaraires to just get back to work for free, somebody doesn’t understand the metrics of regular everyday life. Life for the people they have been screwing over ever since Reagan was president.

Let’s see the orange anus and his family function with no income, no bank accounts and no help in sight. ALL the presidents assets should be frozen as long as he is refusing to end his childish shutdown. He said he would be proud to own the shutdown, well then put your money where your mouth is.

[gordianot]

1. Slavery, the twenty first century Republican variety.

[dalton99a]

2. The traitor wants to decimate the federal workforce by attrition

to destroy the U.S. government itself

[atreides1]

3. That's a good question!

I wonder why it wasn't asked of Judge Richard J. Leon, when he decided that federal workers had to work without being paid???

[angrychair]

5. I guess it was a Constitutional question

I think it was based of the constitutional authority to do it which I find awkward that the Constitution gives the government authority to have slaves.

That said, they can sick out or even sick in. They aren’t getting paid anyway. Getting paid what might be weeks from now does not feed them, cover child care or pay for transportation today.

[madville]

11. I believe they can call in sick up to three consecutive days before being required to provide

documentation as to why, like a legit illness. I don't think the workers are slaves or indentured servants though, they have the option to not show up or resign and many will eventually since this could drag on for weeks or months.

[cagefreesoylentgreen]

16. How do you resign though?

How do you resign when the people to process your exit paperwork might still not be there? I want to go on my fallback plan and re-enter the private sector but I’m also like “How?!”

Guess I’ll just have to call and see if HR is being forced to come back too.

[madville]

17. It takes them weeks or sometimes months to process my SF-52s and post a SF-50

I don't imagine it would be any faster now. I've been on LWOP (Leave Without Pay) for other reasons since last year anyway so I already wasn't working or getting paid.

[duforsure]

4. They can't afford anything

Getting zero for working , and who pays for the gasoline, food, or health care when they get sick. They are losing trying to tell people they have to work for no pay. That'll backfire on them badly. Firing them will really hurt re-elections for any republicans.

[tblue37]

8. My son and his wife are essential State Department employees working without being

paid during the shutdown.

I had to waste my 30,000th post informing a DUer that they don't get paid during the shutdown, because he kept insisting that no one would be forced to work without pay. I was amazed and frustrated at his persistent denial of the evident truth of the situation.

[Solly Mack]

6. And that inability to pay will trickle down to other people. No need for a full wait staff if

people aren't dining out. Some areas rely on communities of federal workers - their dollars.

No need for a full staff at daycare if fewer and fewer kids attend.

Small businesses and even bigger ones who rely on the cash those enclaves of federal workers - who do tend to live close to where they work - will feel the impact.

Coast Guard communities directly impact the local community and if they can't spend cash the city and locals suffer as well.

No food stamps - no spending at the local grocery store.

No rent checks - can cause homelessness and that impacts the city economy and stretches already stretched dollars even more.

This shutdown isn't just about the furloughed and no-pay workers.

This shutdown is hurting a lot of people.

I say that as the wife of an "essential" federal worker. Still working, no pay. We also get retirement checks so we have a cushion - but that lack of pay does impact even us. We have his elderly parents we help financially and those extra dollars are needed.

[tblue37]

9. See my post #8 right above yours. nt

[Solly Mack]

13. Sorry you had to do that. The fact of the no pay/still working info has been out there since

the start of the shutdown.

Not like it was being kept secret.

[gratuitous]

14. It will also impact other areas of government

Remember, it's just a partial shutdown, but each part of the government interacts not only with the citizenry and businesses, but with other governmental agencies. At a certain point (and it's probably happening already), fully-funded agencies are going to get bottle-necked because another idle agency can't provide it with information or carry out tasks.

[Solly Mack]

15. Yep. DHS is getting hit hard right now. As are other agencies.

But Trump claims to be worried about security - so that's why I singled out DHS.

[UpInArms]

7. Sounds like indentured servitude to me

Or ... cruel and unusual punishment...

I don’t think any employer can force someone to work without pay ... and withholding compensation is unjust ... as it would take both parties to agree to that condition of employment.

[tblue37]

10. And yet they are doing it. nt

[workinclasszero]

12. Slavery, brought to you by Trump and the GOP!

Are you tired of winning yet slaves??????????????????????????????