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DU help please ... I missed individual #1's speech (Original Post) Botany Jan 2019 OP
Look it snowybirdie Jan 2019 #1
You big meanie. nt babylonsister Jan 2019 #7
Very tired snowybirdie Jan 2019 #15
Know your younguns. lunatica Jan 2019 #22
Maybe not everybody "knows" who posted it. Demit Jan 2019 #33
No fault if you don't recognize the humor lunatica Jan 2019 #41
They had no reason to be so rude though. cwydro Jan 2019 #47
Well, not that I mean to prolong this, but there are people online who could look things up Demit Jan 2019 #50
Not when I have great people like you to do it. Botany Jan 2019 #14
Now you get it snowybirdie Jan 2019 #44
That's so rude.. not what DU should be about. Cha Jan 2019 #40
I agree with you. I was out and was trying to catch up. And someone was snippy dem4decades Jan 2019 #57
You missed nothing. cwydro Jan 2019 #2
Oh and he went into some detail about sexual abuse, the pig. cwydro Jan 2019 #6
pennies in humanitarian aid orangecrush Jan 2019 #3
"be afraid, be very afraid" handmade34 Jan 2019 #4
Really? Google it. wow. nt USALiberal Jan 2019 #5
You missed the point of Botany's post by a mile! lunatica Jan 2019 #9
Yup. The "three sentences or less" was a dead giveaway. But I miss subtleties sometimes as well. dameatball Jan 2019 #21
Why so rude? cwydro Jan 2019 #11
It was a nothing berder malaise Jan 2019 #8
Lol! cwydro Jan 2019 #16
With a covfefe shake and freedom fries lunatica Jan 2019 #26
and black 'Forrest' cake malaise Jan 2019 #28
LOL! lunatica Jan 2019 #29
and a diet coke onethatcares Jan 2019 #31
Hahahahha malaise Jan 2019 #37
Yes. He needs to wash down lunatica Jan 2019 #42
Stop! You're killing me here! Poiuyt Jan 2019 #54
SOS except shutdown wasn't mentioned once. nt babylonsister Jan 2019 #10
Not a word about furloughed workers. Sugar Smack Jan 2019 #12
Sometimes DU is helpful, this appears to not be one of those times. Here... uppityperson Jan 2019 #13
Thank you. And Trump can take his temporary relief and shove it up dem4decades Jan 2019 #58
Me too, but I know what he said. MoonRiver Jan 2019 #17
Caravan women were given birth control by their mothers lunatica Jan 2019 #18
Okay, I did not watch it. But, somehow, I think I know what he said. Why is that? dameatball Jan 2019 #19
Trump offers 3-year extension of protection for 'dreamers' in exchange for $5.7 billion for wall dalton99a Jan 2019 #20
And now I know why I got my ... Botany Jan 2019 #27
Depa, derpa, derpa. Iggo Jan 2019 #23
You did not miss anything new. Doreen Jan 2019 #24
He probably managed to toss the ball into our court customerserviceguy Jan 2019 #25
Counter-offer... regnaD kciN Jan 2019 #30
OK, you're not being serious here customerserviceguy Jan 2019 #36
He wants a literal wall, of concrete and/or steel. Speaker Pelosi says he ain't getting it. DontBooVote Jan 2019 #35
It doesn't matter what it is called customerserviceguy Jan 2019 #38
He didn't even toss the ball over the net lunatica Jan 2019 #39
We should know customerserviceguy Jan 2019 #43
Nancy Pelosi already answered before he gave his speech lunatica Jan 2019 #45
She has this weekend customerserviceguy Jan 2019 #46
Nancy has never relied on polling lunatica Jan 2019 #48
Perhaps not customerserviceguy Jan 2019 #51
Trump didn't say anything about the 800,000 federal workers lunatica Jan 2019 #53
Wait...the big question is.... Roland99 Jan 2019 #32
Same shit. Different day. nolabear Jan 2019 #34
Did anyone fact check Dr Vegas Jan 2019 #49
Not to hijack this serious thread, but "Google it" is never a proper response AndJusticeForSome Jan 2019 #52
He told joke for 5 minutes, terrible jokes. Eliot Rosewater Jan 2019 #55
His threat "...one way or another...." is what I remember most. mia Jan 2019 #56

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
22. Know your younguns.
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 05:50 PM
Jan 2019

The poster started a humorous thread. You would know that if you saw who posted it.

 

Demit

(11,238 posts)
33. Maybe not everybody "knows" who posted it.
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 06:02 PM
Jan 2019

Or their very subtle humor. Which in this case was so subtle that people not in the know couldn't be faulted for not recognizing it as such.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
47. They had no reason to be so rude though.
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 06:44 PM
Jan 2019

Perhaps acting that way made them feel good inside.

I’ve known people like that.

 

Demit

(11,238 posts)
50. Well, not that I mean to prolong this, but there are people online who could look things up
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 07:13 PM
Jan 2019

themselves but don't. Surely you've seen the meme "Here, let me google that for you"?

I didn't take the comment as deliberately rude, I saw it as a spontaneous reaction.

But, I guess that's why somebody invented the other meme that's apropos here: YMMV

snowybirdie

(5,223 posts)
44. Now you get it
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 06:29 PM
Jan 2019

Lighten up folks! Expressing humor and frivolity, as I assumed the original.poster did, as well. It's Saturday and the tRumpeter just made a laughable speech. Got to smile about something Have a wonderful rest of the weekend.

dem4decades

(11,282 posts)
57. I agree with you. I was out and was trying to catch up. And someone was snippy
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 08:16 PM
Jan 2019

If DUers want to get rude about someone trying to find out information I'll call them out. Why is this place here if not for information?

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
2. You missed nothing.
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 05:43 PM
Jan 2019

There’s a crisis at the border.

People on both sides are being hurt.

We could completely stop heroin.

Same old bullshit.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
6. Oh and he went into some detail about sexual abuse, the pig.
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 05:45 PM
Jan 2019

Seriously, it was a waste of time.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
11. Why so rude?
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 05:47 PM
Jan 2019

If you don’t want to answer, don’t.

You and the other poster who answered rudely must be super nice people to be around.

Sugar Smack

(18,748 posts)
12. Not a word about furloughed workers.
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 05:47 PM
Jan 2019

Whatever you were doing instead of watching was far more worthwhile.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
13. Sometimes DU is helpful, this appears to not be one of those times. Here...
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 05:47 PM
Jan 2019
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142248154
The deal would include $5.7 billion in funding for “see-through steel barriers” in certain “high priority locations.” In exchange, he offered “three years for legislative relief” for 700,000 DACA recipients, extending their protection from deportation. Trump also offered a three year extension to the legal status of Temporary Protected Status (TPS) holders.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
18. Caravan women were given birth control by their mothers
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 05:48 PM
Jan 2019

so they don’t get pregnant from all tha raping.

dameatball

(7,396 posts)
19. Okay, I did not watch it. But, somehow, I think I know what he said. Why is that?
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 05:48 PM
Jan 2019

Life is like a box of those orange colored candies that look like peanuts. Before you open the box you know what you are going to get.
Apologies to Forrest Gump.

dalton99a

(81,451 posts)
20. Trump offers 3-year extension of protection for 'dreamers' in exchange for $5.7 billion for wall
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 05:49 PM
Jan 2019
https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/trump-to-make-new-offer-to-democrats-as-government-shutdown-drags-on/2019/01/19/2cde029e-1bf3-11e9-9ebf-c5fed1b7a081_story.html

Trump offers 3-year extension of protection for ‘dreamers’ in exchange for $5.7 billion for wall; Democrats call it a ‘non-starter’
By Katie Zezima, Erica Werner and David Nakamura
January 19 at 4:27 PM

President Trump made a new offer Saturday to Democrats aimed at ending the 29-day partial government shutdown that would extend deportation protections for some immigrants in exchange for $5.7 billion in border wall funding.

Trump’s proposal is designed to ramp up pressure on Democrats by offering a reprieve on his attempts to end Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) and temporary protected status (TPS) for immigrants from some Latin American and African nations.

Under the new proposal, the administration would allow those programs to continue — addressing a key concern of Democrats and some moderate Republicans.

It would also grant hundreds of millions of dollars for humanitarian assistance and drug detection policy and call for the hiring of thousands of new law enforcement agents to be deployed on the southern border.

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
24. You did not miss anything new.
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 05:53 PM
Jan 2019

Same crap written by someone else making him look constipated because he did not get to rile people up. Scooping the dog shit from your yard makes more sense than he did.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
25. He probably managed to toss the ball into our court
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 05:55 PM
Jan 2019

So, will we reject it completely, or at least try to modify it?

Time will tell what our leadership in the Democratic Party will do, and time will tell as to how the blame for the shutdown is distributed.

As for the DACA and TPS protections being only for three years, do we really think that if we give Trump his wall/fence/barrier that it will please enough people to re-elect him? Especially with the reich-wing TV and radio blather telling Trump's base how he sold them out?

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
36. OK, you're not being serious here
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 06:04 PM
Jan 2019

But I would expect that if our Democratic leadership takes this up, they will want a bit less barrier money, and a bit more humanitarian aid. Some face-saving for our side, and everybody gets back to work in the government, DACA and TPS beneficiaries get a reprieve while we work to find the very best candidate for our next president, and the reich wing Faux Snooze echo chamber gets to piss off Trump's base by telling them how he sold them out.

 

DontBooVote

(901 posts)
35. He wants a literal wall, of concrete and/or steel. Speaker Pelosi says he ain't getting it.
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 06:03 PM
Jan 2019

No wiggle room there.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
38. It doesn't matter what it is called
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 06:06 PM
Jan 2019

He can tell his side it's a "wall". We can call it a "fence".

And Ann Coulter can tell Trump's base that he sold them out with DACA and TPS.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
39. He didn't even toss the ball over the net
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 06:13 PM
Jan 2019

Much less into the other court.

No one will change their mind. He hasn’t moved the lines of division one inch.

MAGATs still love him and the rest of us still know he’s just continuing the big con.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
43. We should know
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 06:28 PM
Jan 2019

within a week as to whether our Democratic leadership will at least try to modify the proposal, or reject it outright. And then we will see who gets further blame for the shutdown.

I'm convinced that this is Trump's last best offer. I watched the speech, and he looked very uncomfortable giving it. I have a feeling that Kushner talked him into this, he knows he's going to take some flak from reich-wing talking heads over it. He's probably hoping that our side won't take the deal, even with modifications, and that gets the Kushners' in the White House off his ass.

If this doesn't get things started on resolving the shutdown, it will continue for the next two years. Thinking that Trump will somehow come to the conclusion that he needs to capitulate completely is just insane. He'd rather wreck the entire country that do anything that would so completely deflate that massive ego of his.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
46. She has this weekend
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 06:42 PM
Jan 2019

to see where the polling data will lead.

I know she's massively pissed at Trump right now, and I can understand why, but leaders are not supposed to let their personal feelings get in the way of leading. Trump has no such ability, and is not a real leader, just a "boss'.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
48. Nancy has never relied on polling
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 06:58 PM
Jan 2019

Which is the reason she was initially unpopular with so many Democrats.

As the Majority Leader her job is about being the one who directs the members of the party to back or oppose the President. When Obama was President her job was to make sure the Democrats supported his Administration by voting for the bills he wanted. Conversely her job as the leader is to make sure the party stands firm in opposition to Trump’s hateful priorities.

When she or McConnell speak publicly they speak as the leaders of their party members. Not as individual representatives.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
51. Perhaps not
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 07:19 PM
Jan 2019

but surely, the Democratic members of Congress will at least be hearing what their constituents have to say about the offer, and some of that might be reflected in polling data.

Waiting for Trump to completely capitulate is hopeless. He knows he was elected as a wrecking ball for the government, and keeping the shutdown going for another two years won't hurt him one little bit.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
53. Trump didn't say anything about the 800,000 federal workers
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 07:24 PM
Jan 2019

In his outrageous demand for the wall in his speech. All he talked about was paying for the wall and some nonsense about DACA. He said nothing about opening the government.

Would you put your trust in him after the latest lie out of thousands of lies?

Dr Vegas

(456 posts)
49. Did anyone fact check
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 07:01 PM
Jan 2019

if he was really at at Naturalization Swearing In? Who are these new citizens and from where did they come from?
I understand that there might be some privacy issues, but maybe hearing from these people, and them telling the world WHY they came to America could show that other people have similar hopes and dreams

AndJusticeForSome

(537 posts)
52. Not to hijack this serious thread, but "Google it" is never a proper response
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 07:22 PM
Jan 2019

... because Google doesnt have funny and snarky results! Sheesh!

(not that I think such responses in this thread were serious anyway)

But here is a serious thought on why people ask here rather than Google: we trust the replies and don't need to refine search terms, and scroll through links we won't click on, etc.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
55. He told joke for 5 minutes, terrible jokes.
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 07:27 PM
Jan 2019

I didnt see it but that is what he always does

i was at the march

mia

(8,360 posts)
56. His threat "...one way or another...." is what I remember most.
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 07:36 PM
Jan 2019

The thug is still holding Americans hostage in order to fulfill his campaign promises to his base. He's trying to portray himself as the great humanitarian who cares about the migrants.

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