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SunSeeker

(51,513 posts)
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 05:55 AM Jan 2019

A Reminder That Two Southern States Still Celebrate Robert E. Lee's Birthday on MLK Day

On Monday, when the rest of the country is taking the day off in commemoration of one of America’s civil rights heroes, the denizens of two states will get a remarkable choice: You can celebrate the birthday of Martin Luther King, Jr., or you can celebrate that of Confederate General Robert E. Lee.

In Mississippi and Alabama, those days are officially the same, and the civil rights icon and the commander of the Confederate army are celebrated jointly, as two equally noble characters of American history. In Alabama, Lee gets first billing. (Mississippi downplays Lee in official documents). The two states have celebrated Lee’s birthday since the 1800s and began celebrating King’s in 1983.

Many in those states who defend the decision to honor Lee with King do so by whitewashing Lee’s actions and beliefs. In building upon Lost Cause myths and narratives, Lee’s defenders portray him as a reluctant hero, an honorable man who only with a heavy sadness took the job out of a sense of duty to protect his beloved South. Some will insist that he despised the institution of slavery, and others will emphasize he treated his slaves humanely. The reality, though, is this: Lee led an army—an army that conducted “slave hunts” of free black Americans and massacred black Union soldiers who tried to surrender—against the United States in an uprising for the explicit purpose of maintaining the institution of slavery. And while he was not the most ardent defender of slavery (he once wrote that slavery was a “moral & political evil” but also complained it was “a greater evil to the white man” and that black people needed to be enslaved in order to become civilized), he still ordered his slaves whipped and families separated. After the war, he continued to fight against efforts to give black Americans rights.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/01/robert-e-lee-mlk-day-alabama-mississippi.html

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A Reminder That Two Southern States Still Celebrate Robert E. Lee's Birthday on MLK Day (Original Post) SunSeeker Jan 2019 OP
Surrender Monkey Day. safeinOhio Jan 2019 #1
Yes, amazing how few statues of Grant there are, even though he was the victorious general. nt SunSeeker Jan 2019 #5
funny story about that. dixiegrrrrl Jan 2019 #2
Wow. SunSeeker Jan 2019 #4
well..Mississippi and Ala. do, which tells you a lot about those 2 states. dixiegrrrrl Jan 2019 #6
K&R Scurrilous Jan 2019 #3

safeinOhio

(32,641 posts)
1. Surrender Monkey Day.
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 06:54 AM
Jan 2019

The surrender at Appomattox took place a week later on April 9. While it was the most significant surrender to take place during the Civil War, Gen. Robert E. Lee, the Confederacy's most respected commander, surrendered only his Army of Northern Virginia to Union Gen. Ulysses S. Grant.


Lets start a Holiday to honor Gen. Grant.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
2. funny story about that.
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 11:29 AM
Jan 2019

When I landed here in Ala. from the West Coast over 30 years ago, went to work one April day and found the building locked.

Jefferson Davis' birthday.

Happened again on Confederate Memorial day in June.

SunSeeker

(51,513 posts)
4. Wow.
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 05:27 PM
Jan 2019

I spent the formative years of my youth in New Orleans. I don't remember having those holidays, but I sure remember the Mardi Gras parades.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
6. well..Mississippi and Ala. do, which tells you a lot about those 2 states.
Mon Jan 21, 2019, 03:38 PM
Jan 2019

they were originally the same territory, depended on the same primary cotton crop, same slave labor. both became states in 1816 and 1817. So not much political difference between them,

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