Covington is a suburb of Cincinnati...

one indelible memory of Cincy is the office cleaning people - mostly black - arriving downtown by bus while the expensive cars were headed out of town to the suburbs. That told me a lot.

the minority group the cleaners belong to may be different but I can't imagine the dynamic of rich whites working during the day and poor people of color cleaning at night is unique to Cincy.

When I worked in corporate America, my office was cleaned at night. I worked late often and got to know some of the cleaning people by sight, if not by name.

Seriously, Covington is just across the river from downtown cincinnati and it's a pain in the ass place across a lot of attributes. While Northern Kentucky, as a area, is considered more liberal than the rest of the state - that's a straw dog given just how conservative the state is on average.

Quite honestly, I'm not surprised to see these kids (and their parents) in the middle of a cultural shit storm - it's pretty much in character with the neighborhood and the school in general. It's just taken a while for their antics to reach the national stage.

I've had some good times in Cincy and also Covington. However, I refuse to drive on the Ronald Reagan Highway!

Just out of habit, and it makes people crazy when I give them directions because I refuse to say it. lol

I enjoy those trips, but must confess that I don’t get too far away from the Great American Ballpark area. The last time we were there, we encountered a lot of homeless folk (probably more white than black), but a baseball park would be a magnet for those looking for help, I imagine. I do know there are some deep pockets of poverty there.

I fear that racism is still alive in most places, just better hidden in some. It needs to be exposed everywhere.

Post-Catholic. My parents lost their faith by the late 70s.

I've been gone a quarter century, but I still have family there (liberal siblings, RW father). Still have Catholic cousins there that send their High School students to the same freaking march as the Covington Catholic kids.

Cincinnati itself is Liberal, Democratic, and has a large African-American population. It has fantastic Art Museums, a reviving historic urban core, and a thriving brewery scene.

The ringing suburbs, and Northern Kentucky is one, are staunchly Republican and racially/economically segregated. Republicans represent the city in Congress because of Gerrymandering - take a look at the shape of the Ohio 1st. It was Democratic my entire youth, represented by pro-union Tom Luken. Now it's RW slimeball Steve Chabot. His 1st law office was a block from my parent's house.

During the election, it seemed like President Asshole had a rally there once a month, attended by my Aunt, Uncle, and cousins. I am not feeling any hometown pride over this one.

although her family home is in Indy. We visited her several times last year and got to know the city. I thought it was great, $1 all day busses, nice parks, restaurants, markets, etc. Her school mates are NOT pro Trump... they all laugh at the guy.

It's the side of town I grew up in. We used to celebrate Mass in the Library on the old campus, right before our Guitar-Mass Community fell apart.

Small world.

because of Cincinnati's stringent zoning laws, Covington and Newport were notorious for their go-go bars and prostitution. Really skeevy towns at the time.

It was one of the few places that allowed punk/alternative shows in the 80s. The Jockey Club, then the Southgate House - I think that's still open.

I had to run out of back door at the Jockey Club for being underage at a couple shows - they got raided.

There's been a lot of urban renewal there recently.

And Bellevue is a destination for many Ohioans.

You see, Ohio liquor stores are limited in their inventory, but Kentucky stores sell a wider range. And Bellevue is home to The Party Source, one of the biggest and best liquor stores ever! We drive down there from Columbus a couple of times a year to restock our favorites that Ohio doesn't see fit to carry.

Would you be looking for Irish whiskeys by chance?

And hasn't been available in Ohio for several years

We always said that Cincinnati was more Northern Kentucky than it was Southern Ohio.

The northernmost southern city.

BTW - I was in the Navy on recruiting duty while stationed in Cincinnati. We used to cross the bridge into Covington because they had the only Go-Go bars. Typical "conservative" values.

Mind you - I was much younger then. I've long passed the "ooogling" at women for $1 stage.

If God was going to give the world an enema, he'd stick the nozzle in Covington, KY

Northern Ohio is more like MI and PA.

Southern Ohio is more like Kentucky.

Because somebody caused on somebody in the archdiocese in Cincinnati to opine on the Covington Catholic capers.

The proper response wasn't slow in coming. It may be a suburb of Cincinnati, but it's in Kentucky. A river runs through it.

It's also worth observing that Covington looked like a gerrymandered town. As you go south the borders make sense for a while, then lose it. It appears they annexed some commercial property and then some communities beyond that, but you really have to leave Covington to get to much of Covington.

Growing up in Cincinnati, I considered Covington just as different/separate as any other American city.

Crossing the river, it felt VERY different culturally, not to mention the accents.

I guess from the outside, it all looks the same.

I'm originally from Kentucky, and I am tired of DU folks assuming that anyone from Kentucky, or anywhere else in the South for that matter, is stupid and doesn't wear shoes. I have a PhD from MIT.

I'm from KY, and live here now, after living in various places in the U.S. This is home.

I keep reading people lumping all Kentuckians in with the idiot residents, and it pisses me off.

Yes, Covington is considered a suburb of Cincy. I lived there for 12 years, and its one of the most racist places I've ever lived. Marge Schott was a symptom.

Area. But it is not what I think when I think of suburb. And yes I grew up in that area and have worked throughout no ky, cincy, Covington.

The blue suspension bridge across the Ohio was designed by John Augustus Roebling and was something of a 'rehearsal' for the Brooklyn Bridge.

Cincinnati's airport is across the river south of the city in northern Kentucky, and uses the symbol "CVG" because Covington was the closest town when it opened long ago.

It's weird to hear Covington referred to as a suburb of Cincinnati, but I suppose it is

We always thought of Covington, Newport, etc as "across the river in Kentucky", complete with it's own culture (that we made fun of).

I suppose from an outsiders perspective, it's all the same.