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bluestarone

(16,641 posts)
Mon Jan 21, 2019, 08:00 PM Jan 2019

Impeachment is what we ALL want for sure! BUT

We need to look at this.1) senate probably won't. 2) McTURTLE is owned by Russia. 3)Barr could cause trouble. 4) Supreme court is loaded. 5) I feel Mueller is concerned about PARDONS! I think we need to get closer to Muellers possible indictment. I want RUMP OUT,BUT i don't want take a chance on something messing it up! PATIENCE is needed i feel.

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Squinch

(50,672 posts)
3. I suspect that the House investigations and the Mueller report will provide us with
Mon Jan 21, 2019, 08:08 PM
Jan 2019

a raft of blatantly impeachable offenses before too much longer.

bluestarone

(16,641 posts)
4. EXACTLY!!!
Mon Jan 21, 2019, 08:11 PM
Jan 2019

Can't wait. Actually the only thing i worry about is the PARDONING that RUMP can do. I just wonder when his BULLSHIT will begin!

Nevermypresident

(781 posts)
5. Question: If a sitting president can't be indicted according to DOJ policy,
Mon Jan 21, 2019, 08:37 PM
Jan 2019

will Mueller's report (or a potentially watered down version by Barr) reveal a sealed indictment (of a felony(s)) for trump?

All I know is a sealed indictment stays non-public until it is unsealed and the person is indicted.

So, if DOJ policy prevails, are you sure we will know about sealed indictments against trump before he is out of office?

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
9. IMO, Mueller needs to release a preliminary report and let the House run with it.
Mon Jan 21, 2019, 09:16 PM
Jan 2019

trump needs to be removed if anywhere near what we suspect is true. No need to wait any longer. If Mueller hasn’t found sufficient evidence yet, he never will.

trump won’t see a day behind bars, no matter how much we want it because no jury will convict him, too many white wingers in jury pool.

But he can be removed from office and should be. Unfortunately, if Mueller issued his report tomorrow, it might take longer than November 2020 for anything to happen.

bluestarone

(16,641 posts)
10. certainly agree that the evidence is sufficient BUT
Mon Jan 21, 2019, 09:27 PM
Jan 2019

What happens if Barr HIDES report? I understand he can do that. ( others smarter than i have stated that possibility) He cannot be removed if not convicted. I still say wait and see how the pardons are attempted. (that is what i'm worried about)

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
12. If it is damning enough, and Mueller is anywhere near as a honest as we believe, it will be
Mon Jan 21, 2019, 09:35 PM
Jan 2019

released. If not, this is a scam. Besides, I'm not sure they could keep it from Congress -- although they might could delay release long past its usefulness (like after 2020)

But, if all they have is that trump and/or his cronies lied about X or Y, it's not going anywhere with this Senate. trump won't be impeached successfully over lies.

 

SirElaih

(37 posts)
15. ... and get Pence instead?!
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 01:57 AM
Jan 2019

and that's a good idea, how? The whole thing will be over soon anyway, there's no need to gift Republicans their own little 'Dolchstoss-Legende' and make Trump a martyr. If we vote Trump out of office, he'll be a footnote in history, if he's impeached, he'll live on as a Republican Saint and Martyr.

Raine

(30,520 posts)
16. Not "all" of us want that
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 03:53 AM
Jan 2019

I absolutely do not want to end up with Pence as president! Trump can go in two years when he's voted out.

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