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Stinky The Clown

(67,790 posts)
Mon Jan 21, 2019, 11:03 PM Jan 2019

(NOT an endorsement) Of the currently announced 2020 candidates I think Harris is the frontrunner.

I think she has the least controversy. She is younger and new to the national stage. She has impeccable credentials. She has an image as a non nonsense fighter.

I know some on the left see her as problematic due to her time as a prosecutor but I think that will serve her well in the larger citizenry.

This can change, but I think this is the case today.


Again ====> NOT an endorsement; just an observation and opinion.

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(NOT an endorsement) Of the currently announced 2020 candidates I think Harris is the frontrunner. (Original Post) Stinky The Clown Jan 2019 OP
For the next DFW Jan 2019 #1
Who was that? BlueStater Jan 2019 #2
His name is Howard Dean. n/t DFW Jan 2019 #7
Bruce Springsteen? dalton99a Jan 2019 #5
Never met any of them DFW Jan 2019 #8
You then believe that experience will necessarily be extrapolated to this situation? LanternWaste Jan 2019 #11
Not at all necessarily DFW Jan 2019 #12
Then I don't understand the purpose of the allegory in post #1 LanternWaste Jan 2019 #16
I'm not interested in a Republican-style circus DFW Jan 2019 #18
her fans on DU would like us to believe that lol nt msongs Jan 2019 #3
LOL.... LovingA2andMI Jan 2019 #4
I think she is one of the frontrunners SirElaih Jan 2019 #6
From my knowledge of democratic circles... backabby-blue Jan 2019 #21
That's not really a valid metric though? SirElaih Jan 2019 #37
Well, we will have to wait ad see. nt backabby-blue Jan 2019 #39
I think she is the front runner right now DesertRat Jan 2019 #36
thanks! SirElaih Jan 2019 #38
Well she certainly is quite likeable. nt UniteFightBack Jan 2019 #9
Gillibrand and Gabbard are both younger than she is oberliner Jan 2019 #10
She is not 70 or more treestar Jan 2019 #15
So? Cha Jan 2019 #28
I'll wait to see all the candidates who choose to run n/t left-of-center2012 Jan 2019 #13
Ummmm . . . . did you miss the "NOT AND ENDORSEMENT" thingie mentioned TWICE? Stinky The Clown Jan 2019 #19
I saw it left-of-center2012 Jan 2019 #23
Fair enough! Stinky The Clown Jan 2019 #25
I agree. If she can get the treestar Jan 2019 #14
More of the Sherman A1 Jan 2019 #17
Worry? Stinky The Clown Jan 2019 #20
Yeah Sherman A1 Jan 2019 #22
For now. Someone else will knock her out of that spot. NurseJackie Jan 2019 #24
See how this works? While I dont mean to say you personally mean anything Eliot Rosewater Jan 2019 #26
yup, those concerns are not sincere JI7 Jan 2019 #27
I don't have a problem with her prosecutor past sharedvalues Jan 2019 #30
But she doesn't talk about the key problems: $ in politics and wealth inequality. sharedvalues Jan 2019 #29
Maybe give her a little while? SergeStorms Jan 2019 #34
by a mile, unless Biden runs AlexSFCA Jan 2019 #31
Impeccable credentials? I'd be interested to see a list. Nitram Jan 2019 #32
Of all those who've announced... SergeStorms Jan 2019 #33
She'll win the DK straw poll this week. PDittie Jan 2019 #35

DFW

(54,349 posts)
1. For the next
Mon Jan 21, 2019, 11:14 PM
Jan 2019

For the next five minutes, anyway.

A friend of mine (pre my DU days) was once considered the front runner for the Democratic nomination, had his picture on the covers of Time and Newsweek the same week. It fizzled, needless to say.

DFW

(54,349 posts)
8. Never met any of them
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 10:24 AM
Jan 2019

Although Secretariat was probably better qualified than half the Republicans running 3 years ago, including the one that won.

DFW

(54,349 posts)
12. Not at all necessarily
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 11:18 AM
Jan 2019

The dice are always cast anew in every election. Anyone looking for an exact repeat of a previous election is invariably disappointed.

DFW

(54,349 posts)
18. I'm not interested in a Republican-style circus
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 06:36 PM
Jan 2019

Every two days some new hero announces, and suddenly people pop up planning to attend the inauguration.

I'm just not interested. Close to two years before an election is not a time to start celebrating the nominee. THAT hasn't changed, even though it's different every time. Howard was a singular phenomenon in his day. It sure as hell didn't get him the nomination, although I still think he would have been a fabulous president.

This time, it looks like we'll have ten or more people announcing. Each one gets the appropriate publicity. Fine and dandy. What I find weird is people immediately jumping on bandwagons with near-fanatical enthusiasm before we even know what all our choices will be. Everyone is a big deal when they announce. I'm interested in who is a big deal 18 months from now. That could very well end up being someone who hasn't yet made headlines (also fine and dandy).

It never works out exactly the same way twice in a row. Certain fundamentals, however, are immutable, and one of them is that more people will fizzle out early than will still be in this by March of next year. ALL candidates will have vulnerabilities. They had better be ready for their opponents to try to exploit them, because they will.

 

SirElaih

(37 posts)
6. I think she is one of the frontrunners
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 04:18 AM
Jan 2019

... but most definitely not 'the frontrunner' by any stretch of the imagination.

 

SirElaih

(37 posts)
37. That's not really a valid metric though?
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 08:11 PM
Jan 2019

A lot of people I talk to, all Democrats, don't even know who she is

DesertRat

(27,995 posts)
36. I think she is the front runner right now
Thu Jan 24, 2019, 11:45 AM
Jan 2019

Who do you think is a front runner at this moment?
And Welcome to DU!

 

SirElaih

(37 posts)
38. thanks!
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 08:13 PM
Jan 2019

I don't think there's a frontrunner at this time, nor should there be. I don't see why we should boast having the most diverse pool of candidates ever, only to undermine that diversity by declaring 'frontrunners'.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
17. More of the
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 06:21 PM
Jan 2019

Horse Race.

It really is way too early to worry about much of it and certainly way too early to worry about a front runner.

Stinky The Clown

(67,790 posts)
20. Worry?
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 06:52 PM
Jan 2019

This was an opinion based on a snapshot in time.

I won't make my own decision until very close to the end. But here on DU we tend to take any mention with any positivity as an endorsement and any criticism, no matter how mild, as an attack.

That's the Intertudes!

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
24. For now. Someone else will knock her out of that spot.
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 07:02 PM
Jan 2019

She's a serious contender, and even though she's not likely to be the nominee... she DOES benefit the party with her strength and intelligence and her no-nonsense demeanor.

The party also benefits when she is able to divert attention away from the eventual "also rans" like Gillibrand and whats-her-name from Hawaii. (There! You see? I can't even remember her name... she's NOT the kind of candidate who can be a winner in national politics.)

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
26. See how this works? While I dont mean to say you personally mean anything
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 09:37 PM
Jan 2019

against Harris, here is what you said:


I know some on the left see her as problematic due to her time as a prosecutor but I think that will serve her well in the larger citizenry.



I remember in a past election the same stuff about someone else and look where that got us

I know some on the left see her as problematic due to her giving a speech once but I think that will serve her well in the larger citizenry.

I know some on the left see her as problematic due to her being not aggressive enough and fill in the blank issue but I think that will serve her well in the larger citizenry.


This is how it happens. Already. We need to reject this

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
30. I don't have a problem with her prosecutor past
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 10:04 PM
Jan 2019

I think she is eloquent on the need for justice-seeking prosecutors. (But I wouldn’t want another prosecton tbr SCOTUS when we pack it to 15 seats. I want another few Thurgood Marshall’s.)

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
29. But she doesn't talk about the key problems: $ in politics and wealth inequality.
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 10:03 PM
Jan 2019

And Dem candidate who wants to effect change HAS GOT TO have an aggressive policy on both.
And an ability to make that policy happen.

I want a POLICY candidate who has plans and experience at getting them through Congress.

SergeStorms

(19,193 posts)
34. Maybe give her a little while?
Wed Jan 23, 2019, 04:24 AM
Jan 2019

She's just announced and getting all her ducks in a row will take a few weeks, at least. Could you cut her, and anyone else in the same position, some slack? The election is a year and a half off. No one is going to have an iron clad policy position at this point in time.

Nitram

(22,791 posts)
32. Impeccable credentials? I'd be interested to see a list.
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 11:05 PM
Jan 2019

I like her, and I like her values. I'm a little vague on her credentials and would like to know more. Thanks.

SergeStorms

(19,193 posts)
33. Of all those who've announced...
Wed Jan 23, 2019, 04:18 AM
Jan 2019

she's the person who gives me the most hope and appears to be a genuine fighter. We need someone who's not going to be intimidated by the orange pus sac currently holding office, and I don't think anyone can intimidate Ms. Harris.

I like her..........A LOT!

PDittie

(8,322 posts)
35. She'll win the DK straw poll this week.
Wed Jan 23, 2019, 08:49 AM
Jan 2019
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/1/22/1828287/-Daily-Kos-Democratic-Straw-Poll-January-22

Warren won last week.

I think that in a #BlackLivesMatter time, her record as an LA prosecutor and as Cali AG is -- contrary to your opinion -- not something that will serve her well upon closer scrutiny. I find her credentials a bit thin, far from impeccable. Her announcement on MLK Day seemed a bit of a pander to the African American caucus. But irrespective of our opinions, she might very well be one of the last left standing this time next year (or 13 or 14 months from now, to be more accurate).

Last week Liz Warren got all the love; this is Kamala's week. Next week? Who can tell?
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