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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsPOSSIBLE hate crime? Please.
When a gay black man is beaten, doused with bleach, called "f@gg0t" and "n!gg3r" and has a noose put around his neck, that's not a "possible" anything. It is a HATE CRIME. The only way "possible" should be used in a sentence here is to describe this as a "possible attempted lynching."
Even more galling and painful is that this occurred on the same day that a rich, entitled, privileged, racist white criminal out of jail on bail, flew first class to DC for a court appearance and parked at the Trump International Hotel when he's not doing interviews and press conferences, whined that his being indicted is a "lynching."
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Jarqui
(10,123 posts)It makes me sick to even say that.
I cannot comprehend such an act. It won't compute. It's so outrageous and vile.
How do people even think of such things?
All these racist/homophobic acts are cruel, horrible and distressing but this one really got to me.
Initech
(100,063 posts)Calling it a hate crime is only downplaying the situation and we also need to hammer the fact that this was done with a MAGA agenda, inspired by Chump's rhetoric.
BigmanPigman
(51,584 posts)ecstatic
(32,681 posts)where is it safe?
Looks like dump succeeded in reinvigorating the klan.
And a big f-u to everyone who assisted in his victory, whether directly or indirectly.
AND, f-u to the assholes who are straddling the fence and "both sides"ing everything while millions fear for their lives and livelihood.
Not sure which group I hate more, at this point.
EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)Otherwise, what an amazing coincidence that a famous black gay man just happened to run into a couple of ski-mask-wearing homophobic racists who were out strolling in Streeterville at 2 am with bleach and a noose.
sheshe2
(83,739 posts)"Possible Hate Crime?" Holy Shit#$%^$%^&*&^%$%^TY&U*&^%$R
Possible lynching?'
Lyrics
Southern trees bear strange fruit
Blood on the leaves and blood at the root
Black bodies swinging in the southern breeze
Strange fruit hanging from the poplar trees
Pastoral scene of the gallant south
The bulging eyes and the twisted mouth
Scent of magnolias, sweet and fresh
Then the sudden smell of burning flesh
Here is fruit for the crows to pluck
For the rain to gather, for the wind to suck
For the sun to rot, for the trees to drop
Here is a strange and bitter crop
912gdm
(959 posts)the govt has to use those modifiers so they don't ruin the prosecution. this was a hate crime and it was disgusting.
EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)They just say they're investigating a rape or assault or a murder. But we still tiptoe around racism.
912gdm
(959 posts)watch local news for a few weeks and you will notice those modifiers. If the police and media go out and say he assaulted, or he murdered, or he raped it would taint the jury pool and run rough-shot of our innocent till proven guilty system.
you said we tiptoe around racism, well im gay and have experienced homophobia and hate crimes for 20 years and know that while we tiptoe around racism we play the floor is lava around anything LGBT related.
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,324 posts)If a guy is shot 5 times in the back its not an alleged murder.
I get it, if they have a suspect, the suspect is the alleged murderer. It drives me nuts when they add alleged where not needed.
EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)What you're talking about is how a SUSPECT is described, not how the crime is described. Yes, they refer to suspects as "suspects" or the "alleged" murderer, etc. But when they find a dead body stabbed through the heart, they don't call it a "possible murder" and when a woman says someone forced her to have sex, they don't call it a "possible rape."
And you're right about what we tiptoe around. I should have said we tiptoe around racism and homophobia because both are at play here.
912gdm
(959 posts)and hope the perps are caught and brought to the fullest extent of the law.
EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)912gdm
(959 posts)pnwmom
(108,976 posts)in situations where there is no doubt, like this one.
CatMor
(6,212 posts)I hope they catch the monsters. Probably some ugly people jealous of his success and good looks.
gunsmoker
(15 posts)Does the government, or the news media, have to pretend that its mere speculation that its a hate crime? Unless its a hoax intended to fool people, or unless the perpetrators had some other motivation but they tried to conceal that by saying the things they did during the attacking, it has got to be a hate crime. Call it for what it certainly looks like, unless and until you see a contrary plausible explanation.
P.S. The same goes for middle eastern guys who die screaming Akkahu Akbar while blowing up a crowd of shoppers or concert-goers. We can presume their motivation and take it as a fact unless and until some other theory comes out, well-supported in the evidence.
greyl
(22,990 posts)"Apparent" would have been a better non-committal word.
EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)Initech
(100,063 posts)More Trump inspired terrorism.
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)And that is why they are tip toeing around the term "hate crime". Because, you see, if a person who commits a hate crime is a MAGAT, then it must be tied in with the orange shitstain's rhetoric. We couldn't allow that, though, could we?!
Initech
(100,063 posts)Which is how we get terrorists who act in the name of Dear Leader, but the media won't allow that will they? This is terrorism plain and simple, and adding MAGA to that makes it worse.
MLAA
(17,277 posts)iluvtennis
(19,847 posts)iluvtennis
(19,847 posts)Maxine Waters@RepMaxineWaters
3h3 hours ago
Jussie is my friend - a very talented & beautiful human being. It is so hurtful that homophobic haters would dare hurt someone so loving and giving. I'm dedicated to finding the culprits and bringing them to justice. Jussie did not deserve to be harmed by anyone!
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orleans
(34,049 posts)"possible" my ass!
there was a fucking noose around his neck!
how the hell is that "possibly" a hate crime?
why couldn't chicago police just come the fuck out and say it is being investigated as a hate crime??