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allgood33

(1,584 posts)
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 11:20 AM Jan 2019

Instead if fighting each other and Schultz, why not come together, meet and explain to each other

in an internal closed town hall and hear each others explanation of their respective economic proposals and how they would work. Present researched and tested data and information on the economy might be affected by Medicare for all, the Warren billionaire tax, AOC progressive billionaire tax plan, someone else's environmental proposal, and ideas and impact of an infrastructure plan, education plan, voter rights enforecement plan, etc.

It would be worth a one-week time out to come together and learn about each others' proposals and take the best ideas and proofs from each proposal and put together a platform that any one of the candidate could and would support and that the voters of all stripes would be able to understand. STOP THE NONSENSE BICKERING and agree that our candidates so far are great. Bring Starbucks CEO into the fold and make him explain his position and plans and educate him about the other plans. We may be able to gain not only his support but the unified support of each other and not do harm to each other before we even get a nominee. We are stronger together, and we are better than that, and we are for the people, and we are fair wages, lower education costs and better education quality, a green economy, inclusion. etc.

Let's get our acts together and not allow the media or the GOP to define us and frame our positions. We can't do this until we agree on our own plan, proposal, and policies. Most of the candidates so far, are ignorant of each other's proposals. They should all know or have an idea about how proposal would be funded, sources, and enforced.

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vlyons

(10,252 posts)
1. Fuck Starbucks CEO
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 11:25 AM
Jan 2019

There's a few of us around here, who remember Ralph Nader's independent run for POTUS, and how it scuttled Al Gore.

That Schultz is so delusional to even think about running as an independent proves to me that he lacks the necessary discriminating awareness and wisdom to make good decisions .

onecaliberal

(32,816 posts)
2. You can't explain to people who want to cut social security for people who can't even scrape by
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 11:29 AM
Jan 2019

So the piece of shit can hide more money, buy another yacht, etc...

awesomerwb1

(4,267 posts)
3. F*** Schultz
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 11:41 AM
Jan 2019

If someone is so stupid/out of touch to not think running as an independent will only hurt the goal to remove trump.....he's not worth any votes.

F him.

EarlG

(21,945 posts)
4. People like Schultz don't give a crap about what Joe Average thinks
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 11:51 AM
Jan 2019

They believe that their success is proof that they already have all the best ideas.

So why waste time and effort trying (fruitlessly) to explain to one very rich guy that his plan to cut Social Security is garbage?

According to polls most people already agree that cutting Social Security is a bad idea. A more efficient use of time and resources would therefore be to point at the rich guy who wants to take away everyone's safety net and say, "Wow, this dangerously out-of-touch idiot sure has some terrible ideas!"

It's not "nonsense bickering," it's a fundamental difference of opinion over basic morals and values.

 

Mr. Quackers

(443 posts)
6. Are you in the PR business?
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 11:56 AM
Jan 2019

Your post is very professionally written, I don't agree with any of it, but it reeks of marketing and public relations.

dameatball

(7,396 posts)
7. A unified Democratic Party running against a mad man with a deteriorating base is all I want to see
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 02:15 PM
Jan 2019

in 2020. There is no way to really know which way a third party candidate would affect the election. So I am totally against any third party candidate at this time. Right now we have a great shot.


This is assuming that Trump is the Republican nominee, which is far from certain.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,297 posts)
13. If the candidates at this stage (remember, still a year to go before primaries start)
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 07:42 AM
Jan 2019

had a secret meeting and declared one manifesto, it would look like a stitch-up, designed to exclude the typical Democratic voters who get some influence with their votes in the primaries (or caucuses).

 

allgood33

(1,584 posts)
9. This is not about just Shultz but it's about all our candidate. They must be able to explain their
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 07:25 PM
Jan 2019

own positions to each other and to us. They need to be able to come up with a reasonably understandable explanation of how what they are proposing, how it would work, whom it would affect and how, and how it is paid for.

hatrack

(59,583 posts)
12. Oh, Howard Schultz? The guy who can't even be bothered to fucking VOTE?
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 07:23 AM
Jan 2019

11 out of 38 elections in the past 14 years.

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/howard-schultz-is-above-the-political-fray-so-high-above-he-usually-doesnt-vote/

"Gain his support"? He supports one person - himself, and one thing - more money for himself, so no, we don't need a Turd Way Venti Latte with double tax cuts, hold the Social Security.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
14. TERRIBLE idea, I want NOTHING to do with that prick, that union hating prick. I bet he hates
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 06:13 PM
Feb 2019

a few others too!

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