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Thu Jan 31, 2019, 11:07 AM

SALON: Mueller's next indictment will tie together Russians, WikiLeaks & top of the Trump campaign

Mueller closes the circle of Russian collusion on Trump
The next indictment will tie together the Russians, WikiLeaks, and the top of the Trump campaign



Muellerís next indictment will tie together the Russians, WikiLeaks and the top of the Trump campaign
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The next arrest and indictment youíre going to see from Mueller will be his biggest yet. One morning in the not too distant future, heís going to sweep up everyone remaining who was associated with using the Democratic Party emails stolen by the Russians. Julian Assange will be indicted. So will Donald Trump Jr., Jared Kushner. Roger Stone will probably face a superseding indictment along with the others for defrauding the United States by conspiring with WikiLeaks and the Russian intelligence service, the GRU, to steal Democratic Party campaign documents and use them to interfere with the American presidential election of 2016, the same charge he made against the Russians. Mueller will probably follow Justice Department guidelines and the example set by Special Prosecutor Leon Jaworski in Watergate. He will probably not indict the president, but he will name him as an unindicted co-conspirator, just as Richard Nixon was in Watergate.

Itís going to be a jaw-dropping arrest and indictment because it has to be. Mueller can no longer issue indictments piecemeal and get guilty pleas or convictions one by one. This time, he must lay out a case that Trump and his campaign officials committed crimes that are so egregious, it will be impossible for the congress to fail to protect him from being fired. If Mueller were to indict Kushner alone, or Trump Jr. alone, it would be too easy for Trump to feign outrage and fire him. Thatís why Muellerís next move will be his last, and it will be the big one, sweeping up everyone who is left at once.

Muellerís indictment of the Republican bad boy and former Trump political adviser Roger Stone was less of an allegation that Stone committed crimes like lying to the congress and tampering with a witness, than it was the exercise of an elaborate search warrant for all of Stoneís houses and offices. Mueller wanted Stoneís electronic devices, because he needs to confirm what he already knows about Stoneís connections to WikiLeaks. He gained this knowledge from the National Security Agency and the CIA, both of which have been involved in the Russia investigation in the background.


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MUCH MORE:
https://www.salon.com/2019/01/30/mueller-closes-the-circle-of-russian-collusion-on-trump/#.XFLkIIDV6-c.twitter
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/01/muellers-next-indictment-will-tie-together-russians-wikileaks-top-trump-campaign/

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Reply SALON: Mueller's next indictment will tie together Russians, WikiLeaks & top of the Trump campaign (Original post)
kpete Jan 2019 OP
edhopper Jan 2019 #1
olegramps Jan 2019 #16
NewJeffCT Jan 2019 #2
jcgoldie Jan 2019 #3
Jarqui Jan 2019 #6
SergeStorms Jan 2019 #9
jcgoldie Jan 2019 #11
NightWatcher Jan 2019 #4
NRaleighLiberal Jan 2019 #5
ouija Jan 2019 #7
calimary Jan 2019 #24
Pepsidog Jan 2019 #8
Mr.Bill Jan 2019 #23
Eyeball_Kid Feb 2019 #26
Mr.Bill Feb 2019 #29
BlueJac Jan 2019 #10
DemoTex Jan 2019 #12
Pobeka Jan 2019 #13
Blue Owl Jan 2019 #14
B Stieg Jan 2019 #15
DallasNE Jan 2019 #17
LudwigPastorius Jan 2019 #18
corbettkroehler Jan 2019 #19
usaf-vet Jan 2019 #20
cp Jan 2019 #21
Mme. Defarge Jan 2019 #22
hughee99 Feb 2019 #25
Blue_Tires Feb 2019 #27
Scurrilous Feb 2019 #28
wishstar Feb 2019 #30
Stinky The Clown Feb 2019 #31
rusty fender Feb 2019 #32
triron Feb 2019 #33
triron Feb 2019 #34

Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Jan 31, 2019, 11:12 AM

1. One morning in the not to distant future?

Kinda vague, what's next? "I say to you that before this generation passes"?

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Response to edhopper (Reply #1)

Thu Jan 31, 2019, 01:02 PM

16. At present I consider this and similar articles pure speculation. Nothing more.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Jan 31, 2019, 11:13 AM

2. I would love for a big sweeping set of arrests

like out of a movie or TV show - would be appropriate for Donny who gets his stories about duct taped women from the movies.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Jan 31, 2019, 11:19 AM

3. What is the basis of this article?

Conjecture? I skimmed it and can't see any reference to sources.

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Response to jcgoldie (Reply #3)

Thu Jan 31, 2019, 11:44 AM

6. It is a projection of what might happen based on the known facts

They're not completely pulling it out of thin air

Some things they establish - like there is significantly more to come.

So it is a mix of reason from the facts and from that, conjecture on where it will go

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Response to jcgoldie (Reply #3)

Thu Jan 31, 2019, 12:06 PM

9. Journalists seldom name their sources.

Even "someone who's familiar with the Mueller investigation" would be too vague for print, and besides, no one connected with the Mueller investigation tips off reporters (or at least would never be referred to as a "deep background" tipster).

Mueller runs a very tight ship. Leaks are not tolerated, unlike the Trump administration.

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Response to SergeStorms (Reply #9)

Thu Jan 31, 2019, 12:22 PM

11. right

I understand that he's not going to name sources, but my point is there doesn't seem to be any, just conjecture.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Jan 31, 2019, 11:24 AM

4. 3 steps to trump's downfall. 1. Prove a crime. 2. Prove which Russians did it. 3. Show conspiracy

between said Russians from steps 1 and 2 and members of trump administration.

Bonus: any and all obstruction issues will reinforce the link between trumpers and Russians (step 3).

Many have known this is how you prosecute things like RICO cases, but it shouldn't be reported as gospel until it happens.

Since we've already done steps 1&2, we are only assuming step 3 is pending.

That said, I hope something happens this Friday, but a birdie mentioned mid February.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Jan 31, 2019, 11:30 AM

5. Let it be! And soon!

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Response to NRaleighLiberal (Reply #5)

Thu Jan 31, 2019, 11:53 AM

7. Man

Iím calling in sick that day.

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Response to NRaleighLiberal (Reply #5)

Thu Jan 31, 2019, 08:08 PM

24. Amen!

Let It Be, and Make It So!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Jan 31, 2019, 12:04 PM

8. As always, interesting comments. What a wonderful day it would be seeing Jr. and Jared perp walked.

Being the coward he is, Trump will literally shit his pants.

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Response to Pepsidog (Reply #8)

Thu Jan 31, 2019, 02:07 PM

23. And have them held without bail

Last edited Fri Feb 1, 2019, 03:11 PM - Edit history (1)

because they are the very definition of a flight risk.

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Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #23)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 10:59 AM

26. Eh, you must mean "without bail." n/t

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Response to Eyeball_Kid (Reply #26)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 03:11 PM

29. Yes, thank you. n/t

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Jan 31, 2019, 12:14 PM

10. This better pan out...

I love what it implies!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Jan 31, 2019, 12:28 PM

12. Howzabout the morning of Trump's SOTU address?

That should get his Depends dripping.

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Response to DemoTex (Reply #12)

Thu Jan 31, 2019, 12:30 PM

13. THAT ... would be a beautiful thing! n/t

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Jan 31, 2019, 12:31 PM

14. Sure would be purdy...

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Jan 31, 2019, 12:41 PM

15. Mueller's climbing a tree of conspiracy...

and he's almost reached the top!

Stay tuned, Mr. Prezident*.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Jan 31, 2019, 01:07 PM

17. Will Mueller Reveal What Goods Putin Is Holding Over Trump's Head?

I certainly hope so.

That would open the door for Mueller to charge Trump by name for very high crimes. But that is a lot to expect, especially in a single move so I am looking for two more rounds of indictments rather than a single, sweeping indictment Salon projects.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Jan 31, 2019, 01:14 PM

18. "The next indictment will tie together the Russians, WikiLeaks, and the top of the Trump campaign"

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Jan 31, 2019, 01:40 PM

19. A Read Worth Everyone's Time (n/t)

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Jan 31, 2019, 01:41 PM

20. Well after following kpete for years on this site and others. I feel he is right this time as well.

Here is hoping it happen soon. The country needs to cleansed of they traitors.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Jan 31, 2019, 01:56 PM

21. May it be so

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Jan 31, 2019, 02:07 PM

22. Holy merde!

Sacrť Dieu!!!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 10:53 AM

25. I'll believe it when I see it. This story seems to be big on speculation,

With a predetermined outline of what the final outcome will be (Mueller nails Trump) and then fills in the pieces of what needs to happen to make that work. Itís laid out like a news story, but itís basically an opinion piece, which is salon in a nutshell.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 12:31 PM

27. Here's hoping to God that Greenwald gets netted in this roundup, too

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 01:53 PM

28. K&R

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 03:21 PM

30. Mueller stated in his July Russian hacking indictment that there were American co-conspirators

so we can expect a Mueller indictment including all the Trump campaign conspirators in the hacking and Wikileaks releases. Unfortunately though it will probably take several more months for Mueller's team to wrap it all up since there are outstanding subpoenas and interviews left, plus sifting through the trove of Stone material.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 03:36 PM

31. Missing, as usual, is one important name that is key to justice being served: Pence

I can imagine that if T were named an unindicted co conspiritor the climate for the GOP is such they would do a Nixon.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 04:13 PM

32. Mueller just asked the judge

in the Stone case for more time to bring the case to trial because of the voluminous material that was seized last Friday.

If the judge grants Mueller more time, assuming that Stone waives his right to a speedy trial, it could take months before the Stone case is resolved.

Of course, Stone could decide to cooperate with Mueller which would speed things up considerably.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 09:17 PM

33. Hurry up mueller!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Feb 2, 2019, 12:08 AM

34. kick for visibility

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