I am watching Ari on MSNBC. I cant believe how bad Schultz is.

[Chickensoup]

We have no choice. BOYCOTT STAR BUCKS. FOR AMERICAS SAKE.
no more games, fight positively. There are many coffee shops but only one America.

[Agschmid]

1. You'll have to pry my daily venti iced coffee from my cold dead hands.

[Claritie Pixie]

2. It's not even good coffee.

[NastyRiffraff]

3. It's terrible coffee

Why do they purposely burn their beans? Ugh.

[Buckeyeblue]

20. I've never understood how anyone thinks Starbucks is good coffee

Duncan Donought's is way better

[Blue_true]

25. Maybe they are like me on coffee.

Like wine, I can't tell good from bad, from a sledgehammer up side my head. I simply don't buy it or drink it. Some people like the image of being a Starbucks coffee drinker.

[tikka]

42. Years ago when I ran a coffee shop,

I had a lady that wanted me to make her coffee in a used Starbucks paper cup. I told her we wouldn't do it.

[Agschmid]

29. We don't have a Duncan's near me.

[Doremus]

73. I've read it's to extract as much flavor from the beans as possible, i.e. more profit for them

Don't know if it's true but sounds plausible. Why else would they destroy beans in such a manner lol

My fave coffee continues to be Douwe Egbert. None better imo.

[fleur-de-lisa]

9. Without all the chocolate, caramel and whipped cream

it tastes like charred garbage.

[Claritie Pixie]

24. Schultz realized you can make anything tasty and addictive by adding sugar.

His marketing 'genius' is nothing special.

[Blue_true]

33. Sugar, the right bug body part to add color and flavor, and the right vegetable oil.

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That is why so much stuff in the grocery store is shorterm addictive. If you eat 10 chips, food executives have flavorists figure out how to get you to eat the bag, that way next time you buy 2 bags or buy the super-sized much costlier bag.

[Claritie Pixie]

51. You got it.

[diva77]

34. when traveling abroad, it's the free WIFI & free bathrooms that lure people in

[Claritie Pixie]

53. That's a good point. I've done that.

[Agschmid]

31. It's great coffee, sorry we disagree.

[Claritie Pixie]

52. Hey it's ok if you like it. I can make better at home though.

I admit that when traveling I've had starbucks and I didn't spit it out.

[marlakay]

58. Even if its great we need to do a temporary boycott

Just to make him drop out, it wouldn’t take long. Surely you can try something else for a few weeks to help out.

I like their chai lattes but I won’t go near there until he drops out.

[Cha]

64. Yeah, it's the sane, patriotic thing to do!

[Agschmid]

67. But it's not... it's somewhat illogical.

It may only embolden him.

[lunatica]

4. He employs a LOT of good people.

Why make them suffer? If he drops out or gets defeated he’ll still be the same person so why should honest workers have to pay the price?

[JI7]

7. they won't suffer. other coffee shops can take their place

[lunatica]

8. Which other coffee shops?

The one’s that are already out there? They already have employees so why would they hire enemployed Starbucks employees?

[JI7]

10. indie shops other chains etc

[Blue_true]

38. I agree with the other poster.

So you are ok with putting Starbucks workers on the unemployment line? For what? Who is to say the coffee shops that pick up the slack aren't owned by Trump loving rightwingers that have enough sense to serve liberals that they loath coffee and keep their mouths shut about their Trump love?

Hopefully Schultz has someone, a wife, kids, siblings, ect, that are close to him and can do an intervention on his ass. If not, we can't repeat 2000 and 2016, our voters must stay with our nominee to eliminate a greater evil.

[JI7]

40. there are already successful liberal indie shops that could easily open

[Blue_true]

48. Maybe you can ask for leeway from being alerted on and list those coffee shops.

Here in my neck of the woods, it's Starbucks, Dunkin Donuts or diners that cater to the old south types.

It is one thing to have a vision of the perfect. It is another thing entirely to have that vision play out as desired in a society.

[eleny]

17. I recall coffee shops being everywhere before Starbucks

If Starbucks ever goes under the demand for coffee would be met, I assure you.

[guillaumeb]

26. An excellent response. eom

[lunatica]

47. I'm not talking about some imaginary shortage of coffee

I’m talking about thousands of employees losing their jobs.

Schultz is a billionaire. A boycott wouldn’t phase him.

[eleny]

50. And I'm not talking about a coffee shortage

There were jobs in coffee shops all over the country before Starbucks and there would be if Starbucks ever went under. The damage that Starbucks did was to put family coffee shops out of business. Same as Walmart and Amazon.

Btw, I decided to stop shopping at Amazon last year and have found everything locally that I used to buy at Amazon. And guess what? There are people working in all those stores I now frequent.

[lunatica]

66. It's not easy to go

shopping all over the place when you have tendonitis like I do. It’s a painful permanent condition which restricts my physical ability so I shop Amazon, and I also order my larger grocery purchases through Instacart.

So you see, Amazon serves a purpose which makes life easier for handicapped people, but long ago I realized that the needs for handicapped people are non existent for physically fit people, especially if the handicap Isn’t visible.

[eleny]

70. Sounds like getting out to Starbuck's would be difficult, too

We have our share of debilitating issues at our house. When we absolutely have to go with mail order we've found everything we need from small company sellers online. We were surprised at how easy it was to transition to small businesses. We're committed to quit supporting oligarchs as best we can. Take care.

[lunatica]

72. I am defending Starbucks employees

I don’t do Starbucks, but I do get employment or the lack thereof.

[Mosby]

65. I don't.

Starbucks popularized lattes, Fraps etc.

Oh and I live in an area with 3 plus million people. There were no coffee shops prior to Starbucks in Phoenix, not ONE.

Eta the number one coffee vendor in phx before Starbucks was circle K.

[guillaumeb]

27. You might like this:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211747456

[we can do it]

16. What other coffee shops offer healthcare at 20 hours?

And free college at same amount of hours?

[blogslut]

37. You mean, "they can just go find another job"?

Look, the man is horrid and I know that even though he is no longer CEO of the company, he still gets money from them. BUT! Jobs aren't easy to come by, even entry level jobs. The people that get service jobs are usually financially insecure where even a week without work means disaster.

I agree. CANCEL HOWARD SCHULTZ. But leave the working folk out of it.

[crazycatlady]

63. Starbucks is one of the few PT jobs that offers health insurance

[Chickensoup]

11. hi. so looking to what trump did with federal workers we would have been better off without him.

same with Shultz. no good things come out of bad people.
if Shultz losses he will go back to Starbucks and we will have trump for another 4 destructive years... no way.
finally, other coffee shops will be hiring to meet new demand.

[lunatica]

21. If Schultz loses Trump will win another 4 years?

The logic of that escapes me.

[JI7]

5. I can't boycott since I don't go there much anyways

I go maybe less than 5 times in a year.

[Chickensoup]

13. you can tell your friends to boycott, yes we all can help in different ways my friend.

[tenderfoot]

6. Schultz is ridiculous. Not one progressive opinion or stance.

eom

[miyazaki]

12. He's a total dead-eye douchebag. n/t

[dalton99a]

43. Just like Stephen Miller

[eShirl]

59. THAT's who he reminds me of.

couldn't quite put my finger on it

[DemKittyNC]

14. Never

have ever bought anything from Starbucks before. One time my uncle gave me a Starbucks gift card a few years ago and I gave it to a homeless woman so hope she got some use out of it. Now I know what kind of dick runs the company I will definitely avoid it like the plague.

[msongs]

15. ceo's not used to responding, only directing nt

[we can do it]

19. He's no longer CEO.

[we can do it]

18. Better yet message them and tell them you'll boycott if he runs.

[uponit7771]

22. **** SHULTZ CALLED WARREN FAUXCAHAUNTUS YESTERDAY *** He's a grade a asshole

[LisaM]

28. I think he actually re-tweeted an article where someone else called her that.

Not excusing him, but I think that's what actually happened. He didn't call her that directly, but I fault him for forwarding the article that did.

[Onyrleft]

23. There are literally cats that shit better coffee than Starbucks.

Look it up.

[fleur-de-lisa]

46. My cat had diarrhea today

Crapped all over her box and then wiped her butt across the hardwood floor.

It smelled better than starbuck’s coffee.

[bdamomma]

30. Wasn't Dunkin Donuts

the first before Starbucks. Always thought Dunkin Donuts coffee was good. Sticking to my geographical area allegiance.

[liberalmuse]

32. He sold our Sonics.

Money is all he cares about. He’s despised here in WA state.

[EveHammond13]

35. no way in hell am I ever entering a Starbucks - or buying a gift card either.

[Cha]

36. Schultz' own advisers concede..

Link to tweet

If I had ever stepped into a starbucks I sure wouldn't again.

[dalton99a]

44. +1

[Ilsa]

39. He's toast already. A boycott will hurt the

employees that are getting good salaries, college bennies, etc.

That being said, I rarely spend money at starbucks, maybe once every three or four months.

[muntrv]

41. I don't go to Starbucks.

[Cracklin Charlie]

45. I have never had a cup of coffee.

And I can’t stand that guy.

[Joe941]

49. Nope. I like my coffee.

Besides he isn't really associated with star bucks anymore. Why hurt the employees?

[Chickensoup]

54. mmmm, let me see here. 4 years of trump or a cup of coffee... not a hard choice is it?

please look at the price we will all pay for a cup of coffee and 4 years of commrad trump.

[Turbineguy]

55. To me, "Independent"

in most cases means "I'm a republican, but not with the stupid department."

[at140]

56. Coffee is literally like poison to my stomach

Cola does not bother me, neither does tea, nor beer. But if i drink coffee 2 days in a row, on 3rd day morning I wake up with stomach pains.

So Starbucks is something I avoid like a plague. Their coffee is way too strong.

[delisen]

57. I think of Starbucks as a Calorie Factory

I only go if I must accompany a Starbuck's addict.

I would go to a classic Viennese coffeehouse and indulge myself but unfortunately they are all far away in Vienna

[delisen]

60. The billionaire club sent out Schultz-he struck out; who's next?

They didn't expect us natives to be so restless.

It's like we are at the ancient Coliseum - shall the competitor live or die? and the roaring crowd jumps to their feet----all thumbs down!

Wonder if Mitt Romney is getting nervous?

They never should have messed with our democracy.

[Cha]

61. "They're trying to bully Mr. Schultz out of running, but along the way they're making the case..

Link to tweet

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

62. Been boycotting it since he sold the Sonics to OKC

Never liked it much anyhow, overpriced and burnt tasting. Starbucks was where I went if I needed coffee and nothing else was close by.

[Vinca]

68. I know I'm a fluke, but I've only had Starbucks coffee once. Why? Because I didn't like it.

Worst cup of coffee I've ever had. Easy to boycott.

[DeminPennswoods]

69. A must read is the story at Cha's twitter link above

Link: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/01/31/howard-schultzs-own-advisers-just-unmasked-his-cynical-game-trump-will-cheer/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.3dd0839de170

The key revelation from The Post is that there is a deliberate method behind Schultz’s devotion of so much of his free-media tour to attacking Democrats. As The Post reports, this represents “a core strategy his advisers have developed in recent months through extensive polling”:

To win a majority of electoral college votes, which Schultz says would be his goal, he would have to ultimately replace the Democratic nominee as the favored choice of voters who do not want Trump to win a second term.

In practice, this has led Schultz to focus far more of his initial fire on Democrats than Trump … He has particularly focused on attacking the Democratic Party’s more-liberal wing.

Any viable route for Schultz requires, first and foremost, an aggressive effort to split the majority of Americans who have already concluded Trump’s presidency is a failure, or worse, a rolling disaster.

The fact that this strategic imperative requires Schultz to make lopsided attacks on Democrats reveals the deep cynicism at the core of his whole argument.

[MurrayDelph]

71. I can't boycott Starbucks yet

I don't drink coffee, but have eaten sandwiches there while traveling.

I have $41 on a gift card that was given to me as a promotional thing. So, when I use it, or costs them money.

Once the card is empty, then I'll stop patronizing them.