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crazytown

(7,277 posts)
Wed Feb 6, 2019, 09:03 PM Feb 2019

Zero Cost 'Medicare for All'

Last edited Sun Feb 10, 2019, 11:32 AM - Edit history (4)

Joe Lieberman crippled the ACA, ruling out the Public Option and/ or a Medicare Buy In. Putting those back reveals the ACA always offered a road to single payer. So ... here goes.

1.Legislation establishes Medicare Part E - A new Medicare Section - Medicare Enhanced / Medicare for Everyone.

2 Medicare Part E covers Part A, B & D plus additional benefits.

3. Medicare Part E is initially available as a policy on all ACA exchanges = the Public Option / Medicare Buy In.

4. All Federal employees arecovered by Medicare Part E at rates with individual opt out.

5. Medicare Part E is also offered to Businesses / Non Profits as a cost effective insurance option.

6. Medicare Part E policies are priced for full cost recovery including establishment costs = No cost to the Federal Budget.

Objection: Citizens are still paying out of their own pocket rather than through the tax system. Absolutely true. There were problems with Obamcare’s subsidies More work is required.

Higher income earners should be taxed at higher marginal tax rates.

The cost is Zero to the Federal Budget. Medicare insurance is priced to fully recover costs including establishment costs.

7. Inital Restrictions on Private Insurance.

Private health insurers required to split their polices into two parts - 1. Standard Medicare Part E benefits and Medicare Advantage - options (only) over and above standard coverage.

The road to single payer?

Individuals may elect to pay for Medicare Part E through the tax system.

Existing Medicare / Medicare merged into Medicare Part E over time.

(Uneconomic) Private insurance of Medicare Items banned.

The age of entry into publically funded Medicare reduced over birth over time.

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Zero Cost 'Medicare for All' (Original Post) crazytown Feb 2019 OP
That would allow for private insurers to have a role. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #1
The main thing - the cost is Zero crazytown Feb 2019 #2
Isn't Medicare already provided by private insurers under gov't contract? nt Wounded Bear Feb 2019 #8
Yes. They would be driven out of provding basic Medicare insurance crazytown Feb 2019 #10
Medicare Advantage. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #11
How is the cost zero? riverine Feb 2019 #3
The additional cost is Zero. crazytown Feb 2019 #4
I've read that Medicare was originally supposed to cover everyone over time. rickford66 Feb 2019 #5
Actually it's in the ACA crazytown Feb 2019 #6
... crazytown Feb 2019 #7
THIS !!! "the Public Option / Medicare Buy In. " uponit7771 Feb 2019 #9

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
1. That would allow for private insurers to have a role.
Wed Feb 6, 2019, 09:13 PM
Feb 2019

And, Medicare could bargain with the pharmaceutical companies for drug pricing, with the option of using Canadian suppliers.

crazytown

(7,277 posts)
2. The main thing - the cost is Zero
Wed Feb 6, 2019, 09:20 PM
Feb 2019

until publicly funded MCE is phased in.

Giving Medicare / MCE the power to bargain - the cost is LESS THAN ZERO.!

crazytown

(7,277 posts)
10. Yes. They would be driven out of provding basic Medicare insurance
Sun Feb 10, 2019, 11:59 AM
Feb 2019

Private health insurers would be required to split their polices into two parts - 1. Standard Medicare Part E benefits and Medicare Advantage - options (only) over and above standard coverage.

Private Part E coverage would be unlikely to be able to compete with the public scheme

 

riverine

(516 posts)
3. How is the cost zero?
Wed Feb 6, 2019, 09:31 PM
Feb 2019

right now the federal government spends $1.1 trillion on healthcare (2018):

https://www.taxpolicycenter.org/briefing-book/how-much-does-federal-government-spend-health-care

As a country we spend $3.3 trillion each year (for now) on health care.

Even with an optimistic 10% saving over private insurers, we would have to raise taxes $1.9 trillion annually.

crazytown

(7,277 posts)
4. The additional cost is Zero.
Wed Feb 6, 2019, 09:37 PM
Feb 2019

The costs of establishing and administering Medicare Part E - are fully priced in the MCE / Public Option package on the ACA Exchanges.

rickford66

(5,520 posts)
5. I've read that Medicare was originally supposed to cover everyone over time.
Wed Feb 6, 2019, 11:13 PM
Feb 2019

I think there would have been periodic age changes but of course there was lots of obstructions. So, maybe some of the hooks are still in the Medicare laws.

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