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Cyrano

(15,031 posts)
Sat Feb 9, 2019, 03:32 PM Feb 2019

So, about that low-keyed, quiet guy who could nail down the presidency

No Republican can win the presidency without winning Ohio. It's become a purple state. But Sherrod Brown, Democratic Senator of Ohio, has been winning elections there since 2006.

He's liberal, he's smart, and when he speaks, everyone can understand his positions, his beliefs, his values, and his dedication to healing America after a couple of years of Trump madness, and a few decades of Republican insanity.

In 2020, I will vote for any Democrat who is nominated. I believe that virtually any Democratic candidate can beat the orange creature. Or, if the creature is gone, that any Dem can beat the malicious, hollow man named Mike Pence.

Right now, we have enough Dems running for president to jam a Manhattan subway car. Many will drop out along the way. And we will eventually end up with a front runner and then a candidate.

Put the name Sherrod Brown in the back of your mind. It's possible to be low-keyed, soft-spoken, yet be endowed with greatness. No one can predict what lies ahead. But Brown might just be the one to put America back onto the tracks from which we've fallen.

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So, about that low-keyed, quiet guy who could nail down the presidency (Original Post) Cyrano Feb 2019 OP
He's my favorite so far. lkinwi Feb 2019 #1
Me too!! Thekaspervote Feb 2019 #6
I'd hate to lose his senate seat but would love him as President. dem4decades Feb 2019 #27
See Post 57. (nt) klook Feb 2019 #72
Me too. Worried about the Senate seat, but he might be our best Prez candidate. MH1 Feb 2019 #33
Definitely a top tier candidate. Sneederbunk Feb 2019 #62
I'm a Bernie supporter but could easily, vote for Sherrod Brown onit2day Feb 2019 #119
Mine too DownriverDem Feb 2019 #97
They're all so good! lunatica Feb 2019 #2
gee, you put that well. BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2019 #35
I agree. We don't need the bloodletting of an early squabble primary infight ... marble falls Feb 2019 #78
Me too I like them all so far. Corey Booker responded well when asked about unity. efhmc Feb 2019 #86
In my lifetime there's never been such a great field of candidates in number or abilities. marble falls Feb 2019 #87
In some way it is overwhelming. efhmc Feb 2019 #91
It is. We have other important things to deal with. This early primary positioning is distracting .. marble falls Feb 2019 #94
You are right. efhmc Feb 2019 #95
For the record, the GOP & Koch apparatus have been floating domestic violence rumors irisblue Feb 2019 #3
Very important to be aware of what's sure to come. GOP operatives working overtime!!! bobbieinok Feb 2019 #10
Russian ones, too! lastlib Feb 2019 #29
An excellent observation. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #52
They are actually friendly True Blue American Feb 2019 #20
They're now fast friends, it seems. babylonsister Feb 2019 #79
Did you notice the date on that story? 6 wks before the most recent Senate campaign. Dark Money. irisblue Feb 2019 #80
Oh yea, smearing for all they're worth. babylonsister Feb 2019 #84
He's an actual Democrat... so that's definitely a plus! NurseJackie Feb 2019 #4
It never ends ZapataViva Feb 2019 #24
Discord? I have no shame in preferring Democrats. NurseJackie Feb 2019 #36
Yes, discord ZapataViva Feb 2019 #37
I only support Democrats... NurseJackie Feb 2019 #38
NurseJackie ZapataViva Feb 2019 #39
Nobody is attacking anyone. NurseJackie Feb 2019 #41
Coulda fooled me ZapataViva Feb 2019 #44
Nobody is throwing darts. NurseJackie Feb 2019 #45
Remember this from your profile ... marble falls Feb 2019 #53
Telling the truth ZapataViva Feb 2019 #58
Past provocative. marble falls Feb 2019 #66
Read my third post ZapataViva Feb 2019 #59
Jackie remained civil and you kept at her. I've known her for six years and while I know she has ... marble falls Feb 2019 #67
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2019 #111
Well, I'm certainly happy to see that "you're probably a nice person"!! George II Feb 2019 #98
Maybe they are? Quixote1818 Feb 2019 #103
Probably. NurseJackie Feb 2019 #107
"Attacks"? What "attacks" are you talking about? Cha Feb 2019 #122
Agreed. efhmc Feb 2019 #90
"Some her"? Really? Four days and you're talking about being "constantly told"? George II Feb 2019 #65
Your post is very eloquent. Good luck because it's a losing battle Quixote1818 Feb 2019 #101
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2019 #110
There's more than a "few here" who don't Cha Feb 2019 #121
What is wrong with supporting a resl Democrat like Brown? Gothmog Feb 2019 #114
Nope you're Wrong on all counts. Cha Feb 2019 #120
What "strikes again"? George II Feb 2019 #64
Could we please not start the whole "x is an actual democrat" with the unsaid meaning that cstanleytech Feb 2019 #46
Nobody is doing that. Nobody is saying that. NurseJackie Feb 2019 #47
"He's an actual Democrat... so that's definitely a plus!" The implication is there. cstanleytech Feb 2019 #48
I've implied nothing. I was very direct... NurseJackie Feb 2019 #49
Nobody ZapataViva Feb 2019 #60
That's not the only thing that seems familiar. NurseJackie Feb 2019 #61
This lillypaddle Feb 2019 #68
Elvis has left the building. NurseJackie Feb 2019 #112
I don't know if that line will bring Bernie voters into at140 Feb 2019 #104
Well, honestly... that's not a very flattering portrayal of "Bernie voters"... NurseJackie Feb 2019 #108
I prefer to read positive aspects of ALL candidates at140 Feb 2019 #118
I guess my standards are higher... NurseJackie Feb 2019 #123
We have such awesome candidates riverwalker Feb 2019 #5
The fact that he can win in Ohio is a very big deal world wide wally Feb 2019 #7
That is one of the reasons why I support him as VP candidate with Harris. CTyankee Feb 2019 #43
I think he could be our strongest candidate in the general election. ooky Feb 2019 #8
I'd like to see him on the ticket Fresh_Start Feb 2019 #9
Yates as AG? dreaming here irisblue Feb 2019 #12
are you joining me in dreaming of AG Yates Fresh_Start Feb 2019 #16
I respect how professionally Yates was in leaving her post. irisblue Feb 2019 #54
Would not want Harris or Warren as VP. They are more valuable as senators. Sneederbunk Feb 2019 #13
Actually Harris and Warren about both guaranteed to be replaced with Democratic Senators Fresh_Start Feb 2019 #15
Brown's seat would almost certainly flip to red Dopers_Greed Feb 2019 #22
There are lots of excellent Dems waiting in the wings in CA shanti Feb 2019 #23
If you want Brown as Pres, or even VP, you better get lots more Senators elected from other states TeamPooka Feb 2019 #11
Right ibegurpard Feb 2019 #14
The fairly recent new state Dem leader-David Pepper is building a bench. irisblue Feb 2019 #19
See Post 57. (nt) klook Feb 2019 #73
I think that's possible MissMillie Feb 2019 #76
Agree, but he could have coattails in otherwise difficult states. MH1 Feb 2019 #82
Since she had to pass on him for VP because-Ohio, BROWN-Hillary would be fantastic! UTUSN Feb 2019 #17
Another Qualified Candidate Roy Rolling Feb 2019 #18
I am hoping he goes for it. I think he is our best shot to take the White House. GentryDixon Feb 2019 #21
He's used to being on tv a lot too. greymattermom Feb 2019 #25
I'm keeping an open mind.....nt Heartstrings Feb 2019 #26
I don't know. I have concerns about him. Honeycombe8 Feb 2019 #28
What are your concerns? nt LAS14 Feb 2019 #51
Do tell please? irisblue Feb 2019 #55
Brown is my Senator. He's a great guy. I would hate to see him leave his Senate job because he Cousin Dupree Feb 2019 #30
I vote for Sherrod everytime he's on my ballot. Doremus Feb 2019 #31
I haven't made up my mind yet NastyRiffraff Feb 2019 #32
Sherrod Brown started his career in 1975 RazBerryBeret Feb 2019 #34
Can we afford to lose that senate seat? quakerboy Feb 2019 #40
Ohio is NOT a resign to run state. Sen Brown is not legally required to give up his seat. irisblue Feb 2019 #57
Good to know. Thanks. (nt) klook Feb 2019 #71
Still we would need to find a replacement win to get & keep the Senate in 2020. MH1 Feb 2019 #81
So we will lose this seat if Brown is the nominee and wins Gothmog Feb 2019 #115
The current Ohio gov is the man Brown took the seat from in 06. irisblue Feb 2019 #116
So we would lose the seat quakerboy Feb 2019 #117
He looks very good to me. CaliforniaPeggy Feb 2019 #42
Yes, I especially like "and when he speaks, everyone can understand his positions, his beliefs, ..." LAS14 Feb 2019 #50
He's a favorite of mine radical noodle Feb 2019 #56
He's my guy Hangdog Slim Feb 2019 #63
Like him, but would his voice be up to national campaigning? Hortensis Feb 2019 #69
I had hoped he was HRC running mate in 2016. No bad reflection on Kane, tho. I like him too. allgood33 Feb 2019 #70
It's not just Ohio frazzled Feb 2019 #74
He's not in the back of my mind MissMillie Feb 2019 #75
I've always preferred Sherrod connecticut yankee Feb 2019 #77
I agree. A Hillary/Brown ticket would have won big Cyrano Feb 2019 #85
He is a good addition. sellitman Feb 2019 #83
I worry we still need some kind of rock star imavoter Feb 2019 #88
After the bombast of Drumpf, a Sherrod Brown persona might BE a "rock star" MH1 Feb 2019 #89
I hear you...but imavoter Feb 2019 #92
Here's the secret to being a "rock star" in a post Trump world Cyrano Feb 2019 #99
Brown/Harris. nt Ilsa Feb 2019 #93
I would vote for that ticket too n/t shanti Feb 2019 #100
Sherrod's Zappa cred is head and shoulders above everybody else!! 90-percent Feb 2019 #96
He's great. I've phone banked for his campaigns several times. AJT Feb 2019 #102
He's a Winner Horizens Feb 2019 #105
He reminds me of Gary Hart .. INdemo Feb 2019 #106
Brown/Klobuchar. Or vice versa. nt Susan Calvin Feb 2019 #109
I like Brown a great deal Gothmog Feb 2019 #113
 

onit2day

(1,201 posts)
119. I'm a Bernie supporter but could easily, vote for Sherrod Brown
Sun Feb 10, 2019, 10:37 PM
Feb 2019

Afterall, they're all Bernies now

DownriverDem

(6,227 posts)
97. Mine too
Sun Feb 10, 2019, 01:12 PM
Feb 2019

Being from Michigan I have watched Sherwood Brown for quite some time. The key for us Dems is to have a candidate that can win a national election. I think Brown can do it.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
2. They're all so good!
Sat Feb 9, 2019, 03:39 PM
Feb 2019

I think I’ll support the Democratic Nominee. I really can’t deal with the infighting in DU during Presidential primaries and will not engage in it. Falling in love too soon can and will lead to heartbreak.

Besides, love really isn’t very objective.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
35. gee, you put that well.
Sat Feb 9, 2019, 06:47 PM
Feb 2019

And no, I don’t have a fave yet. I don’t know enough to have any big opinions.

marble falls

(57,063 posts)
78. I agree. We don't need the bloodletting of an early squabble primary infight ...
Sun Feb 10, 2019, 10:58 AM
Feb 2019

I could vote for each and every Democratic possibility right now. I refuse to choose a favorite until next year. I refuse to join the squabble. We managed to disenchant too many voters last time doing just this over a couple candidates last time.

efhmc

(14,725 posts)
91. In some way it is overwhelming.
Sun Feb 10, 2019, 12:08 PM
Feb 2019

Raining now but small pellets of sleet yesterday. I'm already tired of no sunshine. I do not understand how Northerners do it.

marble falls

(57,063 posts)
94. It is. We have other important things to deal with. This early primary positioning is distracting ..
Sun Feb 10, 2019, 12:17 PM
Feb 2019

and is not needed since 90% of all these very good candidates believe in 90% of the same things - the WH is ours with any of them.

We should be shoring up our new Congressional seats and trying to pick up the few GOP Senate seats available in 2020.

efhmc

(14,725 posts)
95. You are right.
Sun Feb 10, 2019, 12:31 PM
Feb 2019

I do not see myself campaigning for anyone at this point. I would attend any meetings of candidates who come as close as Austin but no donation until we actually have a candidate. Saving up for that person.

irisblue

(32,961 posts)
3. For the record, the GOP & Koch apparatus have been floating domestic violence rumors
Sat Feb 9, 2019, 03:40 PM
Feb 2019

Brown & his ex-wife had, like many of us, had angry moments during the divorce process. I have not seen the legal papers, just the rumors on the internet, of an incident of domestic violence. The ex-wife has denied this, she & her second husband have held fund raisers for Sen Brown couple of times. I understand the relationships between the couples are cordial.

This will come up during his campaign, it did during his last Senate campaign. Dark & Deep $ will be out for him.

bobbieinok

(12,858 posts)
10. Very important to be aware of what's sure to come. GOP operatives working overtime!!!
Sat Feb 9, 2019, 03:56 PM
Feb 2019

Our candidates are all already under attack.

Attacks will be MUCH, MUCH worse in 2020.

VA attacks just a practice run!

Didn't KAV warn 'We're coming after you!'

And Amy not even saying she'll run, and there're attacks on her!

Didn't she DARE to question Kav??

lastlib

(23,204 posts)
29. Russian ones, too!
Sat Feb 9, 2019, 05:34 PM
Feb 2019

The tricks will be DIRTY and MASSIVE in 2020. Keep your eyes peeled.

Dirty voter suppression tactics will be on full throttle. GOP/Russian/Koch lies will be rampant. It's going to be ugly. We may have to fight ugly with ugly.

True Blue American

(17,982 posts)
20. They are actually friendly
Sat Feb 9, 2019, 05:03 PM
Feb 2019

But I would hate to lose Sherrod. He is one of the few bright spots in Ohio.

We could use a man who works hard for the middle class. But honestly that is what Democrats do

babylonsister

(171,054 posts)
84. Oh yea, smearing for all they're worth.
Sun Feb 10, 2019, 11:16 AM
Feb 2019

From the article:

Larke Recchie, the ex-wife of Sen. Sherrod Brown, said she is “dismayed” supporters of Brown’s re-election opponent Jim Renacci resurrected a three-decade old accusation Thursday that Brown engaged in domestic violence against her, calling the use of her divorce records for a political campaign “shameless” and “disgusting.”

Just hours after the Daily Caller in Washington reported a video was airing accusing Brown of abusing his former wife in the 1980s, Renacci, a Republican congressman from Wadsworth, told The Columbus Dispatch: “Sherrod Brown’s well-documented history of domestic violence is deeply troubling. Ohioans deserve to know all the facts, and judge his fitness for public office for themselves.”

But in a statement issued by Brown’s office, Larke Recchie said “this isn’t the first time someone has gone after my family to score cheap political points. I’m dismayed that Congressman Renacci would do something this shameless, despite the fact that I’ve already addressed this matter.”

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
36. Discord? I have no shame in preferring Democrats.
Sat Feb 9, 2019, 07:21 PM
Feb 2019
ZapataViva
24. It never ends
Discord strikes again!
Discord? What discord? I have no shame in preferring Democrats.
 

ZapataViva

(60 posts)
37. Yes, discord
Sat Feb 9, 2019, 07:35 PM
Feb 2019

We are constantly told by some her to keep from fighting a civil war on this forum. I try to adhere to that. But these constant passive-aggressive attacks on Bernie (and to a lesser extent AOC) get tiresome. I've been in the Democratic Party since I turned 18 in 1972, and you know, what? Bernie, Independent that he is, had a better message than our D candidate in the last prexy election, a person, btw, who I voted for in the general. I'm not an independently wealthy person, so bigger social security checks matter to me, as do stronger Medicare and Medicaid programs. To me, the message is far more important than the messenger. And guess what, I'm still a proud Democrat!

 

ZapataViva

(60 posts)
39. NurseJackie
Sat Feb 9, 2019, 08:46 PM
Feb 2019

Listen, I've got no bone to pick with you--you're probably a nice person. But please lighten up on the attacks--they never sit well with people like me, and cause me to resent people in my own party, which I don't want to do. I consider the Gopers to be my enemies, not other Democrats. We are all on the same side here!

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
41. Nobody is attacking anyone.
Sat Feb 9, 2019, 08:54 PM
Feb 2019

I also do not consider other Democrats to be my enemies. The insinuation that I consider Democrats to be so is an insult.

 

ZapataViva

(60 posts)
44. Coulda fooled me
Sat Feb 9, 2019, 09:26 PM
Feb 2019

You seem to throw darts on a pretty regular basis. But re-read what I posted, I said that I don't like to consider other Democrats enemies--you read into that.

marble falls

(57,063 posts)
53. Remember this from your profile ...
Sat Feb 9, 2019, 10:35 PM
Feb 2019

" I will always try to remain respectful in my comments, though some will undoubtedly be considered provocative. "

Just saying.

 

ZapataViva

(60 posts)
59. Read my third post
Sat Feb 9, 2019, 11:30 PM
Feb 2019

That was an attempt to say no hard feelings, we're all on the same side. It was not reciprocated.

marble falls

(57,063 posts)
67. Jackie remained civil and you kept at her. I've known her for six years and while I know she has ...
Sun Feb 10, 2019, 01:21 AM
Feb 2019

strong opinions I've never known her to push anyone personally the way you have her.

Response to marble falls (Reply #67)

Cha

(297,123 posts)
122. "Attacks"? What "attacks" are you talking about?
Mon Feb 11, 2019, 12:35 AM
Feb 2019

Because she likes Dems.. you accuse her falsely of attacking you?

That's ridiculous.

Quixote1818

(28,927 posts)
101. Your post is very eloquent. Good luck because it's a losing battle
Sun Feb 10, 2019, 02:07 PM
Feb 2019

I gave up biting a long time ago because a few here really don't want to come together. There are just a handful here who continue to want to fight the last election over and over with the passive aggressive jabs despite the DU rules which are designed to bring us together. You can reach out and try to make friends and attempt to bring one another together a million times but they don't care. They will just say "Who me????? I'm not trying to be passive aggressive and make others feel uncomfortable here!" Rather than say, "Humm, I guess I can see your point, we really are on the same side and that election was in the past. I will try to not do that in the future."

In the future I suggest you just ignore the jabs. They are looking for a reaction.

Response to Quixote1818 (Reply #101)

Cha

(297,123 posts)
121. There's more than a "few here" who don't
Mon Feb 11, 2019, 12:13 AM
Feb 2019

like BS.. who brings it on himself with his own words.

And, that post had misinformation in it.. so it wasn't " very eloquent" at all.

Cha

(297,123 posts)
120. Nope you're Wrong on all counts.
Mon Feb 11, 2019, 12:05 AM
Feb 2019

BS brings the negativity on himself with his own words..

Bernie: 'My Opponents' Want Black, White, Gay, Latino or Women Candidates ‘Regardless of What They Stand For’

After the 2016 election, Sanders hit a similar theme when he told a crowd of supporters “It’s not good enough for somebody to say ‘hey I’m a Latina vote for me’ that is not good enough,” and went on to add “It is not good enough for somebody to say, ‘I’m a woman, vote for me.'”

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211722251

He's too divisive.

cstanleytech

(26,280 posts)
46. Could we please not start the whole "x is an actual democrat" with the unsaid meaning that
Sat Feb 9, 2019, 09:52 PM
Feb 2019

others are not as that weakened us a bit and it helped divide the DU the last time.

cstanleytech

(26,280 posts)
48. "He's an actual Democrat... so that's definitely a plus!" The implication is there.
Sat Feb 9, 2019, 10:14 PM
Feb 2019

So, since we have a long way to go before we finally get down to really choosing our final candidate how about we ease up a bit and simply wait and see who decides to run and what they offer up.
Then we can weigh all their potential their pluses and minuses and hopefully choose a candidate that will kick Trumps ass to the side of road where it belongs, ok?

 

ZapataViva

(60 posts)
60. Nobody
Sat Feb 9, 2019, 11:39 PM
Feb 2019

is doing that, nobody is saying that, nobody is throwing darts . . .

Those seem to be the go-to refrains.

at140

(6,110 posts)
104. I don't know if that line will bring Bernie voters into
Sun Feb 10, 2019, 02:20 PM
Feb 2019

the fold or may discourage them from showing up at the polls.
It is well known fact that Bernie brought out many first time voters who had stayed home in the past.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
108. Well, honestly... that's not a very flattering portrayal of "Bernie voters"...
Sun Feb 10, 2019, 02:54 PM
Feb 2019
at140
104. I don't know if that line will bring Bernie voters into
the fold or may discourage them from showing up at the polls.
It is well known fact that Bernie brought out many first time voters who had stayed home in the past.
Well, honestly... that's not a very flattering portrayal of "Bernie voters" if you're seriously trying to argue that MY loyalty to Democrats will "discourage them from showing up at the polls."

Arguments like that are little more than an appeal to fears and emotions and indication of position of weakness when it comes to advocating or arguing a specific position.

Here's the thing, I'm certainly willing to give you the benefit of the doubt. But I have to tell you... if we take you at your word (and at face value) then you're falsely portraying those voters as being shallow, petty and bitter. I'll have to disagree with you on that, because it's simply not true!


All I'm saying is that it's completely absurd to think that those voters actually care (as much as you seem to care) what I think.

at140

(6,110 posts)
118. I prefer to read positive aspects of ALL candidates
Sun Feb 10, 2019, 10:14 PM
Feb 2019

running on the progressive agenda. I am certain there are a whole bunch of flattering aspects to the candidate(s) you like and prefer. Let's hear it!

I have a gut feeling the bitterness between Hillary and Bernie camps in 2016 may have lost Hillary some votes in November 2016. In close elections every vote counts. A more harmonious democratic primary in 2016 could have produced a different result. Of course that is just my feeling and I or any one else can't definitively prove it or disprove it.

I am really looking forward to 2020 without a circular firing squad.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
123. I guess my standards are higher...
Mon Feb 11, 2019, 02:15 AM
Feb 2019
I prefer to read positive aspects of ALL candidates
I guess my standards are higher. I'm more selective in the candidates and parties that I support.

riverwalker

(8,694 posts)
5. We have such awesome candidates
Sat Feb 9, 2019, 03:43 PM
Feb 2019

No matter who wins the nomination, there are places in the next cabinet for some amazing people. It makes me giddy.

CTyankee

(63,901 posts)
43. That is one of the reasons why I support him as VP candidate with Harris.
Sat Feb 9, 2019, 08:58 PM
Feb 2019

I think he has a face and style that America loves and he and Harris would be a formidable duo...

ooky

(8,922 posts)
8. I think he could be our strongest candidate in the general election.
Sat Feb 9, 2019, 03:52 PM
Feb 2019

I can foresee him having appeal to voters in battleground rust belt states. Also to independent voters who swung to Trump and figured out later he lied to them - his dignity of work message could resonate with them. Maybe he could even turn Ohio into a possible battleground state.

Fresh_Start

(11,330 posts)
9. I'd like to see him on the ticket
Sat Feb 9, 2019, 03:56 PM
Feb 2019

but I'd surely like that ticket to also include a smart woman (i.e., no Sarah Palin types).

I love Kamala and Warren...either would bring geographic diversity to the ticket) midwest + west or midwest + northeast

And Stacy Abrams...is just a wow to me...She could bring more Southern voters...

For a non-politician, I sort of dream of Sally Yates....





Fresh_Start

(11,330 posts)
16. are you joining me in dreaming of AG Yates
Sat Feb 9, 2019, 04:35 PM
Feb 2019

or are you calling me an idiot?

Either is fine ...just trying to make sure I understand

irisblue

(32,961 posts)
54. I respect how professionally Yates was in leaving her post.
Sat Feb 9, 2019, 11:02 PM
Feb 2019

I'd be much happier with her as AG then the last 2.

Fresh_Start

(11,330 posts)
15. Actually Harris and Warren about both guaranteed to be replaced with Democratic Senators
Sat Feb 9, 2019, 04:31 PM
Feb 2019

Sherrod Brown's seat is probably only 50% chance of being succeeded by a democratic senator, so based on whose more valuable as a senator, that would argue that Brown shouldn't run for higher office.

Dopers_Greed

(2,640 posts)
22. Brown's seat would almost certainly flip to red
Sat Feb 9, 2019, 05:06 PM
Feb 2019

He would still be a great presidential candidate, but just saying.

shanti

(21,675 posts)
23. There are lots of excellent Dems waiting in the wings in CA
Sat Feb 9, 2019, 05:17 PM
Feb 2019

to be our next Senator. We can afford for Harris to be President.

TeamPooka

(24,218 posts)
11. If you want Brown as Pres, or even VP, you better get lots more Senators elected from other states
Sat Feb 9, 2019, 04:01 PM
Feb 2019

people, cause if he wins either post then a GOP Gov gets to name his replacement,
there is no rule or law in OH that the replacement must be of the same party
We can't with the White House without winning the senate
If don't win the Senate we get no SCOTUS nominations, judges or anything because of McConnell.

irisblue

(32,961 posts)
19. The fairly recent new state Dem leader-David Pepper is building a bench.
Sat Feb 9, 2019, 04:48 PM
Feb 2019

There are some good examples & potentials here, State Rep David Leland, Ohio 22nd district in C-bus, Rep Joyce Beatty Ohio 3rd CD, has a safe seat here in C-bus, State Rep Kristin Boggs, Ohio 18th, nice legislative record. There are up and comers.

MissMillie

(38,547 posts)
76. I think that's possible
Sun Feb 10, 2019, 09:32 AM
Feb 2019

Of course there is no way to predict what events will transpire in the next 20+ months... however, if Mr. Trump continues to alienate people and the GOP does NOT distance themselves from him the Democrats have a shot at it.

There are 22 senate seats up for re-election, and Lamar Alexander of TN has decided he won't run. With no incumbent I think the Dems could have a shot at his seat.

I think Susan Collins of ME may have pissed off enough people (over Kavanaugh) that her seat might be get-able.

I don't know how popular Cory Gardner is, but if Trump continues to be unpopular Colorado could be in play. And I think Arizona could be in play as well.

It's all about getting out the vote.


MH1

(17,595 posts)
82. Agree, but he could have coattails in otherwise difficult states.
Sun Feb 10, 2019, 11:07 AM
Feb 2019

Any idea what R senators are up in mid-west states where we have a good shot at picking them off, if we have a great Prez ticket that brings our people out in those states?

Roy Rolling

(6,911 posts)
18. Another Qualified Candidate
Sat Feb 9, 2019, 04:47 PM
Feb 2019

Makes me think the President/Vice President combination of Democrats will make Republicans seem shallow.

greymattermom

(5,754 posts)
25. He's used to being on tv a lot too.
Sat Feb 9, 2019, 05:20 PM
Feb 2019

And can answer any reporter's question while sounding reasonable and even friendly.

Cousin Dupree

(1,866 posts)
30. Brown is my Senator. He's a great guy. I would hate to see him leave his Senate job because he
Sat Feb 9, 2019, 05:53 PM
Feb 2019

is one of the only bright spots in mostly RWNJ Ohio. Those Repugs down state have their heads in the 1950’s and up their asses at the same time. But I would also love to see him run.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
32. I haven't made up my mind yet
Sat Feb 9, 2019, 06:20 PM
Feb 2019

and I won't until I hear more from all the candidates. I like Sherrod Brown a lot, though.

I'll support any real Democrat (as opposed to a temporary one) in the General except for Tulsi Gabbard, who'll be an early dropout anyway, so I'm not worried about that.

RazBerryBeret

(3,075 posts)
34. Sherrod Brown started his career in 1975
Sat Feb 9, 2019, 06:31 PM
Feb 2019

As a State Representative for Ohio.
He was a guest speaker at my little country High School in 1976 as the youngest state rep ever in Ohio. Only the senior class was invited (which included my big sister), I remember how much I really wanted to go. He has consistently been a voice for the middle class, my dad, who was a steelworker his entire life, Loved Sherrod. I hope i get to cast a vote for him for President.

quakerboy

(13,918 posts)
40. Can we afford to lose that senate seat?
Sat Feb 9, 2019, 08:53 PM
Feb 2019

What are the odds on keeping the seat if Brown steps up?

Any dem should be able to beat either of them. If we bother to do our own careful vetting and if we are willing to unite behind a single dem.

irisblue

(32,961 posts)
57. Ohio is NOT a resign to run state. Sen Brown is not legally required to give up his seat.
Sat Feb 9, 2019, 11:19 PM
Feb 2019

He won in 2018, the seat would be up if Brown won in 20, but Brown, doesn't have to run for Senate till 24. This actually is the best timing for him. If Brown wins POTUS/VPOTUS, the GOP gov would appoint a gop-er undoubtedly till the next election in 24, & that true asshole Portman would become senior senator. Sen Brown took the seat from the current gop gov-DeWine.

The newish state Dem Party chair, David Pepper, is building a bench in this reddish purple state.

MH1

(17,595 posts)
81. Still we would need to find a replacement win to get & keep the Senate in 2020.
Sun Feb 10, 2019, 11:04 AM
Feb 2019

I am all for Sherrod - he is #1 on my list at the moment - but we should recognize we need to pick up another Senate seat to replace him, since when he wins the Prez race, his seat will become GOP until at least 2024.

On the flip side, with his mid-west cred, he has the potential of a coattails effect that might help pick up another seat in a normally difficult state. (not sure what that would be at the moment, might need to consult Nate Silver or others)

We need to be looking at who can run for Senate in those potential coattail states, to make up the seat.

Gothmog

(145,086 posts)
115. So we will lose this seat if Brown is the nominee and wins
Sun Feb 10, 2019, 07:17 PM
Feb 2019

That is a negative

I really like Brown butworry about the Senate

irisblue

(32,961 posts)
116. The current Ohio gov is the man Brown took the seat from in 06.
Sun Feb 10, 2019, 07:26 PM
Feb 2019

A hard core right winger-Mike DeWine.

Are there other Senate seats you can see flipping in 20?

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,580 posts)
42. He looks very good to me.
Sat Feb 9, 2019, 08:54 PM
Feb 2019

And I was lucky enough to meet him and to hear him talk. He wasn't campaigning and he wasn't there to impress all of us.

The occasion was to thank his donors for our support during the last Senate race.

He is intelligent, funny, low-keyed and extremely knowledgeable about American issues.

He is seriously considering running and I would be proud to support him if he does.

LAS14

(13,781 posts)
50. Yes, I especially like "and when he speaks, everyone can understand his positions, his beliefs, ..."
Sat Feb 9, 2019, 10:22 PM
Feb 2019

his values."

Hangdog Slim

(81 posts)
63. He's my guy
Sun Feb 10, 2019, 12:23 AM
Feb 2019

I really like Brown. Thanks for the post. He is the real deal and I hope he gets some traction among Democrats.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
69. Like him, but would his voice be up to national campaigning?
Sun Feb 10, 2019, 06:34 AM
Feb 2019

When I watched him the other day it sounded weak, as if it was giving out, but perhaps that's not the case?

I'm wondering as perhaps a VP from "the heartland." He's voted with Trump on some trade issues, which might be a plus in the running mate.

 

allgood33

(1,584 posts)
70. I had hoped he was HRC running mate in 2016. No bad reflection on Kane, tho. I like him too.
Sun Feb 10, 2019, 06:46 AM
Feb 2019

Brown may have a better chance now on the ticket in first or second. Biden/Brown? Warren/Brown? Brown/Warren?

Trump has poisoned so many voters with hate, it's going to be tough no matter what. The new tax law may give us alll the help we need after April. There are lots of folks who suddenly realize thay have been lied to. They ignored the lies before but it's personal now.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
74. It's not just Ohio
Sun Feb 10, 2019, 08:44 AM
Feb 2019

Brown’s Midwest bona fides could extend to other Midwestern (post-) industrial states such as Michigan and Wisconsin, and beyond—and that’s where we “lost” last time.

I’m not assuming that anti-Trump sentiment and its counter-policy correlates will be enough to overcome the bizarre electoral barriers that exist. We can’t just win the popular vote (alas). And I worry somewhat about a “coastal elites” factor.

On the other hand, will Brown be able to reawaken the minority vote that lagged somewhat in the last election?

As far as I see it, you’ve either got to get the working class vote or a mega-minority vote to win this thing. Preferably both. That means that right now, there are three candidates I’m looking at closely. Brown is definitely one of those.

Fearing loss of his Senate seat in Ohio is not a compelling reason to discount him.

MissMillie

(38,547 posts)
75. He's not in the back of my mind
Sun Feb 10, 2019, 09:03 AM
Feb 2019

He's front and center.

To be fair, I like all of the candidates thus far. It's just that I do understand the importance of winning OH.

If Klobuchar announces, she'd be a get too as I don't think we should automatically assume the Dems will take MN.

Otherwise, the other candidates thus far do not give us anything in the Electoral College that we don't already have.

Besides, Brown IS smart and he CAN present his arguments in a way that can rally people to his positions.

connecticut yankee

(1,728 posts)
77. I've always preferred Sherrod
Sun Feb 10, 2019, 10:34 AM
Feb 2019

I've been impressed with him for years, after seeing him on TV talk shows. He's Liberal, Pro-Labor, totally unpretentious and down-to-earth and, most importantly, from Ohio which would help gain the Mid-West "rust belt" states.

I would like to see him run with Kamala Harris. She comes across brilliantly, and would get the women's and black votes.

I think if Hillary had selected him for VP, she would have won!

Cyrano

(15,031 posts)
85. I agree. A Hillary/Brown ticket would have won big
Sun Feb 10, 2019, 11:51 AM
Feb 2019

Even with all the voter suppression, Russian interference, and every other swinish Republican tactic for stealing elections, a Hillary/Brown ticket would have put her in the White House. And we wouldn't have to be suffering the incredible insanity that has gone on for two plus years, complements of Trump and the GOP.

imavoter

(646 posts)
88. I worry we still need some kind of rock star
Sun Feb 10, 2019, 11:58 AM
Feb 2019

I don't like to say it out loud, but people are stupid.

We need someone who can motivate people to go out and vote in the first place, because, frankly...
people stay home these days even when our lives are on the line.

Because smart just doesn't work any more. Not for the general public.

MH1

(17,595 posts)
89. After the bombast of Drumpf, a Sherrod Brown persona might BE a "rock star"
Sun Feb 10, 2019, 12:02 PM
Feb 2019

Someone who makes people feel more comfortable and secure. Someone they feel isn't bullshitting them like that guy they are so tired of.

I don't know. Just think when people are sick and tired of a style that has proven to be a cover for lies and fraud, they might welcome the exact opposite. Like a breath of fresh air.

imavoter

(646 posts)
92. I hear you...but
Sun Feb 10, 2019, 12:14 PM
Feb 2019

that's my point.

I'm around all kind of people all the time, and if you look at the stats...
let's say you are at the grocery store or the mall.. Most of those people didn't vote.
According to the voting polls, most people aren't even paying attention.

Obama had a rock star quality, that frankly, thank god he had one.

I hope I'm wrong.

Cyrano

(15,031 posts)
99. Here's the secret to being a "rock star" in a post Trump world
Sun Feb 10, 2019, 01:51 PM
Feb 2019

If you want to be heard, whisper.

 

Horizens

(637 posts)
105. He's a Winner
Sun Feb 10, 2019, 02:28 PM
Feb 2019

With Sherrod Brown at the top of the ticket the Dems win Ohio, MI, PA, Wi, NY, NJ, CT, RI, VT, MD, VA, DE, MA, VA,
DC, MN, OR,CA, NM and IL. That's 277 Electoral votes - enough to win. No other candidate can make that claim.

AZ, NC and FL would also be in Play.

I was thinking that Amy Klobucher would be the perfect running mate but now have doubts given the news about her this week.

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
106. He reminds me of Gary Hart ..
Sun Feb 10, 2019, 02:35 PM
Feb 2019

and Gary hart would have won the nomination but was caught in a trap set by Republicans

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