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Sun Feb 10, 2019, 12:54 PM

I am just "Biden" my time.. hoping Joe will join the race,but why the 'all outs' against the women

Candidates.. can we stop kneecapping all the women who have already jumped into the race.. Is it just me, but Harris for getting some kind of pass, Warren for accepting a family history she was raised with and a preemptive attack on Klobuchar for being too tough, Gillibrand etc... Not seen the same level of attacks on Booker or O' Rourke Buttigleg, Delaney, Brown, Castro or even my choice Biden.. pretty tame stuff thrown at them

If I have left anyone out, or soon to jump in.. apologies.. its hard to keep up with all the good people we have getting ready to take on the Trumpian Party..


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Reply I am just "Biden" my time.. hoping Joe will join the race,but why the 'all outs' against the women (Original post)
Peacetrain Feb 10 OP
catrose Feb 10 #1
DURHAM D Feb 10 #2
Peacetrain Feb 10 #6
DURHAM D Feb 10 #9
LakeArenal Feb 10 #3
IluvPitties Feb 10 #4
Peacetrain Feb 10 #5
InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 10 #14
peggysue2 Feb 10 #7
Peacetrain Feb 10 #8
The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 10 #10
dlk Feb 10 #11
sinkingfeeling Feb 10 #12
IluvPitties Feb 10 #13
SFnomad Feb 10 #16
Big Blue Marble Feb 10 #18
Andy823 Feb 10 #15
Guilded Lilly Feb 10 #17
Gothmog Feb 10 #19
Dopers_Greed Feb 11 #20

Response to Peacetrain (Original post)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 01:02 PM

1. When you read about what the Repubs did to Eleanor Roosevelt

who didn't even run for anything (though FDR's mentor wanted her to be the first woman president) and then Hillary Clinton...now AOC, the presidential candidates, and other women who are stepping into public life...just business as usual. For myself, I'm not believing any of it--especially if cis straight white men are saying it, no matter what their party--even if these women shoot someone on Fifth Avenue. After all, there's always 2 sides, right?

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Response to catrose (Reply #1)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 01:06 PM

2. I don't need to read about what the Republicans did to Eleanor,

I lived through it.

Actually, it was the press more than the Republicans. It was brutal.

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Response to DURHAM D (Reply #2)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 01:18 PM

6. I have read the history.. and you are so right

The bile and vilification thrown are E. Roosevelt.. was horrid

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Response to Peacetrain (Reply #6)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 01:27 PM

9. I grew up with family and neighbors who never once

referred to her as Mrs. Roosevelt. They always called her Mrs. Hoosevelt. I assume this was a riff on Hooverville.

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Response to Peacetrain (Original post)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 01:08 PM

3. Right now the RW are busy ruining VA Dems.

I donít believe it is real Dems and especially DUers knee capping other Dems.

I think our fault is falling for the kneecapping.

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Response to Peacetrain (Original post)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 01:13 PM

4. Biden would be a great candidate. He should promise to run for a one term presidency.

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Response to IluvPitties (Reply #4)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 01:16 PM

5. Totally agree...

He has given so much of his life to public service.. His knowledge base and all his connections with other governments would be a huge help in saving what is left of our government..I would love if he could do for the Executive branch what Pelosi is doing for the house... and mentor the next set of leaders.. Our current administration has been full bore tearing our Democracy and Allies down..

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Response to IluvPitties (Reply #4)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 01:50 PM

14. Don't see what's taking Joe so long...he's had years to decide whether he wants to run.

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Response to Peacetrain (Original post)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 01:24 PM

7. I agree, Peacetrain

I was astonished with the Klobucher stories because all these 'whacks' are following a pattern. A female candidate barely gets out the gate and she's kneecapped for one reason or the other.

Oh Noes! She (whoever the candidate) is less than perfect! Toss her on the junk heap.

The same was evident in the Beto O'Rourke attacks--his popularity, his strength to attract supporters. The piranhas were released taking chunks out of his hide. Those attacks only subsided when he withdrew from all the chatter of a potential run.

We've seen this movie before. All of our candidates, particularly the strongest, most popular candidates have been targeted because the Republicans (and other factions) are desperate to take the shine off, reduce them all with a 'but . . .but her emails' legacy.

It's going to be a long, long election cycle.





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Response to peggysue2 (Reply #7)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 01:26 PM

8. Its getting ugly now, and will be a lot uglier..

peggysue2 you are so right about that...

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Response to Peacetrain (Original post)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 01:28 PM

10. Better to get this stuff out now rather than in October of 2020.

It can be debunked or at least become old and uninteresting news by the time the primaries heat up if it's handled correctly now. I'm sure that as all the others, male or female, become official candidates, whatever skeletons they have or are claimed to have in their closets will be brought out too. That's politics. I'd rather have them vetted and proctoscoped now than later. I really don't think Warren's ancestry claims or Klobuchar's personnel management problems will be deciding factors once all 30 candidates or however many there will be are out campaigning. We probably won't even be able to keep track of which "scandal" belongs to whom.

Wouldn't it have been better if somebody had discovered Northam's yearbook photo before he ran for governor?

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Response to Peacetrain (Original post)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 01:41 PM

11. The Misogyny is Ever Present - You Think We Would Have Learned by Now

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Response to Peacetrain (Original post)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 01:42 PM

12. How about Biden/Obama 2020?

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Reply #12)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 01:44 PM

13. Michelle or Barack?

Let Barack enjoy his post-presidency life. His work is done.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Reply #12)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 02:29 PM

16. Obama can't run again ... and if he did (and won), it would get tied up in the courts

President Obama has earned his retirement ... leave him in peace.

And if by chance you were talking about Michelle, she has stated no, many times.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Reply #12)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 03:19 PM

18. Biden/Harris 2020 works for me! N/T

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Response to Peacetrain (Original post)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 01:59 PM

15. I agree

There seems to be a group here on DU who just plain don't want "any" women to run. I keep seeing low count posters who "claim" to be Democrats, posting all kinds of hit pieces on the women who have announced they would run. Could be a bunch of the JPR crowed coming back, could be right wing trolls, or Russian trolls, things is they are stirring things up trying to divide people. We have to remember not to feed the trolls.

We have a great bunch of people to chose from, and I really think that scares republicans since they had such a crappy field to pick from the last time, and now they are figuring out that trump is a total disaster that they will have to deal with that in 2020.

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Response to Peacetrain (Original post)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 02:35 PM

17. Women are always targeted. Strong women, in particular, in professional...

positions get the brunt of public criticism.
Whether out of insecurity or fear, misogyny or ignorance, conscious or deeply entrenched, gender targeting exists and is practiced constantly. All the time. It hasnít changed, we are just finally talking more about the problem. I am sure it will get worse.

It isnít just a political problem. Itís massive. Overwhelming, often. But it is being recognized more publicly.

This election, I imagine, will be the ugliest, meanest ever. And then some.
We have to be emotionally prepared.

There is a plus, though. Those who remain standing will be damned fierce, strong candidates-which we must have to win back the sanity and humanity from the current nightmare.

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Response to Peacetrain (Original post)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 03:34 PM

19. I like Joe Biden also

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Response to Peacetrain (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 10:11 AM

20. Not true that it's only against women

Sanders gets the most hate of anyone on this site (though he's not a Dem technically).

But...I'm sure a lot of this "trouble" is being brewed by our site's users from St. Petersburg.

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