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Mon Feb 11, 2019, 04:30 PM

Seth Abramson is on a roll:




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I'm Jewish. I love my fellow Jews. I have a neutral disposition toward Israel. But I'm not a liar—and won't lie for Jews/Israel. After countless hours of research for Proof of Conspiracy, I've concluded that Israel may have sought to influence the 2016 election as much as Russia.


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1/ I think Mueller believes this also—which is why he originally aimed to charge Papadopoulos with being an unregistered agent of Israel. An open question is how successful the Israeli op was and to what extent it leads straight to the office of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

2/ The approaches from Israeli government-linked agents to the Trump campaign are legion. The intermediaries are legion. The meetings are legion. The lies told about the meetings are legion. And these are the *same* investigative patterns that we see in the Trump-Russia cover-up.

3/ The number of entities involved in pre-election outreach to Trump is huge, and all are "Israeli business intel" outfits whose employees are near-universally former IDF (maybe current IDF) and specifically MI: Black Cube, Wikistrat, Psy-Group, Terrogence, Inspiration, and more.

4/ All these companies are connected in some way to social media manipulation tech and cyber-espionage—some via their outfits, some via ops adjacent to their outfits. They reached out directly to Trump aides, hitting on Gates, Kushner, Papadopoulos, Don Jr., Flynn, and 2+ others.

5/ We know there was coordination between some of these firms and Trump's data firm, Cambridge Analytica. We know two of these firms offered pre-election social media manipulation to Don Jr. and he said yes. We know at least two of the firms coordinated with the Saudi Arabia/UAE.

6/ And we know that top aides to Benjamin Netanyahu were involved. And not tangentially—centrally. We know their names. We know who they were communicating with within Trumpworld and when (spoiler—pre- and post-election). And we know Netanyahu is a corrupt politician (Google it).

7/ We know the motive: to help Trump win, because Trump would then drop sanctions on Russia, and Russia would in turn agreed to stop aiding Iran, which would then allow a new pro-US, pro-Israel geopolitical alliance to emerge in the Middle East: Saudi Arabia, UAE, Egypt, Bahrain.

8/ I'm saying this now because I'm a Jew and because no one can accuse me of hating Israel. There are many, *many* Trump-Russia analysts who've uncovered similar information about what Netanyahu—to be clear, him and not the people of Israel—appears to have done in 2015 and 2016.

9/ I'm also saying this *now* to underscore that the Trumps hiring an attorney who already represents one of the chief Israeli figures in the Mueller investigation, Joel Zamel, is to those of us who've written books on Trump-Russia a five-alarm fire in terms of witness tampering.


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triron Feb 11 OP
DoctorJoJo Feb 11 #1
PatSeg Feb 11 #2
alwaysinasnit Feb 11 #3
SunSeeker Feb 11 #4
pecosbob Feb 11 #5
trof Feb 11 #6
dalton99a Feb 11 #7
triron Feb 11 #8
akraven Feb 11 #9
triron Feb 11 #10

Response to triron (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 05:45 PM

1. No More Corrupt Politician Than Benjamin WhatAYahoo!

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Response to DoctorJoJo (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 05:58 PM

2. "Benjamin WhatAYahoo"!!!

Yeah, that sounds about right. This guy has been playing American politicians for fools for years, openly bragging about having the U.S. wrapped around his finger. Opposing him is opposing corruption.

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Response to triron (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 06:07 PM

3. K&R Thanks for posting.

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Response to triron (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 06:12 PM

4. Netanyahu is a dumbass. Russia would never "in turn, stop aiding Iran" if we dropped sanctions.

They wouldn't even thank us. They haven't up to now, with all the gifts Trump has bestowed upon them, like that huge wet financial kiss and debt write off to Deripaska.

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Response to triron (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 06:44 PM

5. For the Russians it's all about the pipelines, baby

Like I posted in another thread, Israel and AIPAC know they would not survive for long if they were Magnitsky'd and that's why the threat of a boycott terrifies them, enough so that they use their lobbyists to secure passage of some the most unconstitutional and discriminatory conditional work clauses bullshit ever seen in this nation in all the red states and in Washington DC. Even Schumer has signed on to this bullshit. The recent brouhaha concerning the freshman Congresswoman wasn't simply criticism of Israeli policy vis a vis the Palestinians, but specifically AIPAC's ginning up these bullshit work clauses all around the country, but Politico and The Hill conveniently leave this part out of their articles. Remember the teacher fired in Texas for refusing to sign an agreement never to boycott Israel? How y'all going to feel about it when local Republicans start passing work requirements prohibiting you from supporting Black Lives Matter or NARAL or Planned Parenthood? Beyond belief that people can't see beyond the end of their own noses when AIPAC pulls out the anti-semitism card and plays it like a fiddle. I know some people won't like what I've said, but it's about your constitutional rights. All the while former Mossad members trumpet their new companies prowess in manipulating public opinion and legislation...and for the record, Putin would give up his grandmother for contracts with Exxon to exploit the Arctic oil and gas reserves, which are currently Magnitsky'd. Trillions with a 'T' for him and his gang of gas station mafiosos.

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Response to triron (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 07:07 PM

6. Just...WOW

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Mon Feb 11, 2019, 07:20 PM

7. A must read.

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Mon Feb 11, 2019, 09:36 PM

8. knr

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Response to triron (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 10:42 PM

9. This is flat scary.

I grew up during the Cuban Missile Crisis. This is worse.

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Response to akraven (Reply #9)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 11:16 PM

10. Way worse. Putin is winning bigtime.

Surrender with no shots fired. Krushchev was right evidently.

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