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Mon Feb 11, 2019, 07:58 PM

If there was collusion with Russia, here's where it might have occurred

From the outset, President Trumpís refrain on the investigation of Russian interference in the 2016 presidential campaign and any coordination with his campaign has been consistent. Since May 2017 ó shortly after Robert S. Mueller III was appointed special counsel to investigate the issue ó Trump has tweeted some variant of ďno collusion!Ē no fewer than 65 times. That refrain has been constant despite the evolving nature of the investigation, the myriad indictments and the sprawling assessments of who in Trumpís orbit knew what and when.

In reality, the question of collusion isnít clear. At the poles are those who insist it is: On one end, there are those who, like Trump, seize on the uncertainty or on truncated investigations run by congressional Republicans to say that the absence of proof is proof of absence; and on the other are Trump critics who point to events such as the June 9, 2016, meeting at Trump Tower as proof of collusion in and of itself. In the middle is a lot of gray, no clear line from Trumpís campaign to the Russians seeking to get him elected.

Such a line may emerge. If it does, here are five places it might show up, listed in order from most to least likely.

Paul Manafortís interactions with Konstantin Kilimnik

What we know: We know that, while serving as Trumpís campaign chairman for several months in the middle of 2016, Manafort had repeated email and in-person conversations with Kilimnik, a longtime business partner of Manafortís who is believed to have links to Russian intelligence. That includes, among many other things, an in-person meeting in early August 2016 down the street from Trump Tower in New York that included Manafortís business partner Rick Gates (who was also Manafortís deputy on the campaign).

To some extent, this is a fairly simple point of interaction to identify as significant because a lawyer working for Mueller himself said that the Manafort-Kilimnik interactions and that Aug. 2 meeting in particular get ďvery much to the heart of what the Special Counselís Office is investigating.Ē

That comment came in a heavily redacted document detailing a hearing between Muellerís team and Manafortís attorneys in which a judge was asked to evaluate the extent to which Manafort might have lied to federal investigators. Those redactions include most of the details about what was discussed during that August meeting, leaving only that tantalizing sentence from attorney Andrew Weissmann.

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WhiteTara Feb 11 #1

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Mon Feb 11, 2019, 08:24 PM

1. The first treason meeting took place

at his Turnberry Scotland gold course. He went with Mnuchin in 2015. He came back and then suddenly had lots of money.

I know that Patribiotics isn't really considered top notch reporting, but this is still interesting.
https://patribotics.blog/2017/08/04/scot-sedition-june-24-treasonmeeting-2/

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