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Mon Feb 11, 2019, 08:32 PM

I am going to have a really hard time here.

We have so many excellent candidates to pick from. Here are my three so far.

Kamala Harris started as my number one. Fearless and a loud and proud woman. One of color. I love her. She was phenomenal in her announcement speech. She is a force to be reckoned with.

Amy Klobuchar, Minnesota stood in the freezing snow to announce and show Minnesota is strong and can withstand the snow and everything else hurled at her and more. She had no hat or gloves. Strong resilient woman that can withstand anything.

Elizabeth Warren. My Senator who I met and adore. I want her where she is, yet her announcement speech knocked me over. She stood in freezing temperatures and fired up the crowd in Lawrence. She has always been fierce, never saw her so animated.

These three have touched me.

Fact is I will wait to see what they all have to say.

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Reply I am going to have a really hard time here. (Original post)
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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 08:34 PM

1. My problem as well

And what a lovely problem it is! Three fierce women and I would happily vote for any of them.

I wonder if Rachel will have Amy on her show tonight?

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Response to leftieNanner (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 08:36 PM

2. Yes, she is Rachel's guest tonight.

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 08:37 PM

3. Agreed, although as time goes by perhaps it will become easier!

AND I hope the media stays more focused on the atrocities being done each day rather than on nitpicking about candidates (of any party) running for 2020.

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Response to Post removed (Reply #4)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 08:45 PM

6. Care to explain your comment?

Kamala should go fly a kite?

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #6)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 08:49 PM

10. no, i wish i could. something i read and

have now forgotten

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Response to Post removed (Reply #17)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 09:36 PM

31. No, I am NOT confused. My reasons are mine.

I am not playing the games here. I see nothing has changed since 16.🙄

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Response to joet67 (Reply #31)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 02:32 AM

86. You said it was because of something you read, but no longer remember.

???

That sounds like the very definition of confusion imo.

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Response to joet67 (Reply #31)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 06:04 AM

91. 16 what?

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Response to joet67 (Reply #10)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 09:23 PM

23. Profound.

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Response to honest.abe (Reply #23)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 09:37 PM

32. sorry. not playing the games here,

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Response to joet67 (Reply #32)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 11:13 PM

65. Are ya sure?

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Response to joet67 (Reply #32)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 01:39 AM

85. You funny.

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Response to joet67 (Reply #32)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 11:55 AM

101. lol fail !

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Response to joet67 (Reply #10)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 09:14 AM

94. what the????

must’ve been something REALLY important...

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #6)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 10:49 PM

54. I think I can guess!

I read this somewhere (JPR).

There is a shadowy Third Way Plan. Phase one: the MSM and we here on DU ("Brockbots" ) will keep attacking Warren and Gabbard, try to connect them with the Virginia situation, go after Klobuchar until they all drop out of the race. Phase two: the narrative will pivot to the 100th anniversary of women's right to vote and it's time for a woman president and Kamala (they call her "Scamala" -- they love their little Trumpian nicknames over there!) will be the anointed candidate.

Or maybe it's the usual about being a "corporate shill" and putting everyone in jail. Whatever it is: WRONG.

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Response to betsuni (Reply #54)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 11:18 PM

66. oh my!

JPR is getting is getting a little cra!

We Brockbots now?

Sweet...they are calling her Scamala now. Guess they are scared of her as donnie does the same when he fears the competition. Wonder who they are scared for...

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #66)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 01:18 AM

83. Brock has been paying all of us for years!

He must be broke by now.

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Response to Post removed (Reply #4)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 08:47 PM

8. Why should Kamala go fly a kite?

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Response to Post removed (Reply #4)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 08:50 PM

12. I love flying kites!

There is a lot of skill in it.
It is a great stress reducer and it is fun.
I love to get a bunch of cheap kites and take them to the lake. I get each one airborne and find a kid to hand it to and then get the next one up and hand it off, etc.
Oh the smiles I have received!

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Response to Horse with no Name (Reply #12)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 09:17 PM

21. I love kites and Mary Poppins. And dreams that can come new again.



Let's go fly a kite up to it's highest height.... and send it soaring! Up to the atmosphere. Up to where the air is clear. Oh let's go fly a kite.

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Response to Post removed (Reply #4)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 08:51 PM

13. Go fly a kite?

Wtf?

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Response to Post removed (Reply #4)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 09:19 PM

22. What a bizarre comment?!?

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 08:43 PM

5. As an avowed lefty, I already have some problems with both Harris' and Klobuchar's voting record

I've seen no such flaws in Warren, other than ginned up bullsh*t, but beyond her fiscal policy, I know little about what her foreign policy might be. Brown is my sleeper...strong union support for years. He would absolutely wreck the GOP in the upper midwest.

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Response to pecosbob (Reply #5)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 08:46 PM

7. Links to their votes please.

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #7)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 09:08 PM

20. Here's what I read...

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/2020-senate-democrats-vote-record_us_5c58a8fde4b00187b55431e4

Klobuchar's vote on the anti-BDS 'law' distinctly tripped my alarm bells and I'm not really keen on her support for military spending and support for agribusiness. Pretty much everythng about Booker as well as Gillibrand sets off alarms for me. Warrens's still mostly a mystery to me other then direct fiscal policy. With Harris it's more her former position as prosecutor that cools my enthusiasm for her candidacy...she's not likey to turn around and abolish private prisons or anything resembling true criminal justice reform. She appears to have a very centrist approach to military spending as well, but this is also true of Sherrod Brown. These are just my preliminary impressions and as such do not carry any weight beyond my potential primary vote. Of course, as with any vote there may be a perfectly reasonable explanation for what initially appears to be a aberrant vote, such as local constituents' views and concerns, but it is what it is.

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Response to pecosbob (Reply #20)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 09:25 PM

24. Huff is your source and every Dem

running is sending off alarm bells. Hm. Every one of them.

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #24)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 09:27 PM

26. They are all Senators, not traditionally known as a hotbed of radical leftism

it is a sleeper car full of centrists.

and nowhere did I claim 'all' of them set off my alarms. Watch it with the blanket generalisations. Anyone in the Senate for any length of time is going to have a mixed record from my perspective. I thought my comment made it clear that I did not have any opposition to any of them running. Even B.S., God's gift to dumb-asses on the left has closets full of unseemly skeletons. It is my hope that someone not of the Senate throws their hat into the ring at some point.

Perhaps some perpective of my views...big Pharma is evil...big Agribusiness is mostly evil, especially Monsanto. Prosecutors, and former prosecutors are mostly venomous snakes. Wall Street is a predator that needs to be chained like a vicious dog. Private prisons should be abolished and made illegal forevermore...vote with any of these entities and you are complicit at least in a small way.

The gist of my post is that none of these declared candidates is of the left...to be honest they are all centrist Democratic candidates.

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #24)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 09:27 PM

27. EVERY SINGLE ONE.

Coincidence?

We know better.

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #24)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 10:54 PM

57. Here's a link to a Star Tribune (which has always endorsed Amy) about her problems with progressives

in Minnesota. Most of us vote for her because, even though she's disappointing, she's better than today's Republicans. But we'd also like to vote for someone in 2020 whose major qualification isn't just "Not Trump".

If you want to protect the status quo, Amy is your candidate.

http://www.startribune.com/winning-progressive-votes-could-be-a-challenge-for-klobuchar/505687862/


A few hours after Sen. Amy Klobuchar joined the Democratic presidential race, Our Revolution Minnesota endorsed Sen. Bernie Sanders. A day earlier, the national Progressive Change Campaign Committee said it's backing Sen. Elizabeth Warren.

The moves underscored a key question for the Minnesota senator's White House campaign: Is she progressive enough to win the nomination at a time when the party's most liberal wing is ascendant?

"Her voting record is safe. It's very centrist and that's just not what we're about," said Anita Seeling of Minnetonka, vice chair of Our Revolution Minnesota's board. "We need somebody that's a champion."

Erik Hatlestad, an organizer for Democratic Socialists of America and a member of the City Council in New London, Minn., praised Klobuchar's support for the Green New Deal initiative. It calls for cutting greenhouse gas emissions to net zero in a decade.

"However, we're rather concerned that her commitment to other bold and popular ideas isn't across the board," Hatlestad said. She hasn't said she supports a plan known as Medicare for All that would provide universal health insurance, he noted....

...Klobuchar hasn't embraced other progressive priorities, including a $15 minimum wage and tuition-free college. She hasn't endorsed calls to abolish Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

Kevin Chavis of Minneapolis, who chairs Our Revolution Twin Cities, liked Klobuchar's speech on Sunday and its emphasis on inequality, drug prices, data privacy, gun laws and ending divisiveness.

"She tries to find popular policies that are not too controversial," he said. "I just don't know if that's going to work this time."

Our Revolution Twin Cities hasn't endorsed a presidential candidate, Chavis said.

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Response to dflprincess (Reply #57)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 11:01 PM

62. As I said.

I am waiting to here from them all.

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #62)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 03:29 AM

87. Although none of my "horses" are in this race (yet, anyway)

Frankly, I could live with most, if not all, of the declared Democrats should one of them win the White House, even if none of them are my preference.

I will not be looking to Our Revolution for guidance to make my choice.

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Response to pecosbob (Reply #20)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 11:36 PM

70. actually Kamala's positions are to abolish private prisons, legal cannabis on the federal level and

eliminate mandatory sentencing guidelines.

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Response to TeamPooka (Reply #70)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 11:41 PM

73. If that is in fact her position I had not heard of it

and it would change my view of her to a large extent

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Response to pecosbob (Reply #73)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 12:04 AM

75. she introduced legislation on the private prisons and sentencing stuff co-sponsored by a

Republican, Rand Paul of all people, last year.
Saw them both interviewed on it on TV.
and she was talking and tweeting about the legalization issue the last week or so.

She also said we need to acknowledge that certain communities distrust police.
She wants to imprison violent criminals, not the non-violent.
She's personally opposed to death penalty; as DA, she never pursued it.

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Response to pecosbob (Reply #20)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 09:26 AM

95. Both Harris and Klobuchar have serious negatives

Harris when SF Attorney Gen. refused to prosecute incumbent Treasury Sec'y Steve Mnuchin for gross violation of his bank, OneWest, for making fortunes on more than 36,000 foreclosures on its sub-prime mortgage loans between 2006-15. Subsequently, Harris received a donation from Mnuchin for her 2016 Senate race.
Klobuchar earned a harsh rebuke from Senate majority leader, Harry Reid for gross abuse of her office staff. Klobuchar excuses
the abuse charges because of being a highly driven achiever.
Of course it's too early yet. We must wait to kick over all the stones to see what is crawling underneath.

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Response to disndat (Reply #95)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 02:21 PM

107. Where'd you get "harsh rebuke" from?

The HuffPo story only noted that anonymous sources said Harry Reid spoke to her privately. The story went on to note that Reid's spokesman said the senator prefers not to discuss private conversation, and that Reid doesn't remember whether or not he had this discussion with Klobuchar. Then the story quoted Reid directly: “Sen. Klobuchar is one of the most brilliant, hardest-working members of the Senate, and I was glad to serve alongside her,” said Reid. “She’s tireless when it comes to fighting for the people of Minnesota and the country, and that’s why she’s such a popular Senator back home and among her colleagues.”

A private conversation presumably means it was just Reid & Klobuchar, wouldn't you think? I'm curious how the sources would even know what was said in a private conversation, much less how harsh it was.

I'm not saying it didn't happen; it may well have, and Reid was being diplomatic in saying he didn't remember it. I'm just cautioning against embroidering what was factually reported.

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Response to Demit (Reply #107)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 02:56 PM

109. I read about the Harry Reid rebuke

third hand source. The Reid rebuke was accompanied by moderating comments about how brilliant Klobuchar is and how hard she works. Nevertheless, her record in the Senate of having the most turnover of staff verified by reports of abuse from former staff members is alarming.

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Response to Garrett78 (Reply #30)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 11:38 PM

71. that's great info. Thank you

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Response to TeamPooka (Reply #71)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 04:53 PM

117. Most who talk about differences in voting records likely...

...don't have a clue what they're talking about. They just base their opinion on perception.

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Response to pecosbob (Reply #5)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 11:40 PM

72. Congress legislates

We've seen how easy it is to undo executive orders. Keep the "lefties" in Congress to do liberal legislation. Put a Democrat in the White House who will implement and execute.

I would be happy to have Harris, Klobuchar, or Warren in our White House. Happier still to see a big blue tidal wave keep the House and take the Senate along with the WH.

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Response to pecosbob (Reply #5)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 11:52 AM

100. I have issues with Harris' voting record also.

Not enough to withhold my vote in the general, but I would probably write-in a better candidate in the primary if I had to.

Right now Brown is one of my "better candidates".

I am hoping by the time my primary comes around, Harris and Gabbard will have faded. They are both highly suspect on an issue important to me. On Klobuchar, I still need to do more research, but I know of at least one "sin of omission" ... that will hopefully be overridden by other facts of her record.

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 08:48 PM

9. Today I'm leaning towards Harris--I'm liking the idea of a former Prosecuter after Trump

I’m thinking she won’t want to drop investigations for crimes. I’ve leaned toward almost every one of the candidates so far except Tulsi Gabbard.

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 08:49 PM

11. It is not fair.

All of the GOP candidates from 2016 were terrible candidates, and the worst of them stole the election.

I would have no problem voting for any of the declared Demcoratic candidates.

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 08:52 PM

14. Like them all. But if Brown declares I am all in.

I may be on the moderate wing of DU although I call myself a Social Democrat and have problems with Browns trade Rhetoric. But he is from Ohio and is strong Union.

If he were to get our nomination we would win in a landslide. Especially with Harris or Booker on the ticket. He would wrap up the Midwest like no other democrat and I think could win here in Florida.

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Response to GulfCoast66 (Reply #14)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 10:08 PM

39. Sherrod Brown

I am curious about him. I would like to hear what he has to say.

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Response to bdamomma (Reply #39)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 10:13 PM

41. I have been touting him on here since early 2017.

Thought if he could win a tough re-election in Ohio which he easily did, he would be our best choice.

Remember, at the end of the day, the best Democratic candidate is the one that can win!

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Response to GulfCoast66 (Reply #14)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 10:15 PM

43. Me, too.

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Response to GulfCoast66 (Reply #14)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 10:43 PM

50. Same here

I like them all, but right now Brown is my favorite. Strong union guy and someone (in my opinion) who would intimidate tRump. Time will tell.

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Response to GulfCoast66 (Reply #14)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 10:54 PM

56. I think Klobuchar or Brown would win the midwest.

I think Klobuchar seems so likeable that Trump would have a really hard time making her look bad.

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 08:52 PM

15. We have some great candidates

My choices are a little different but honestly, I will vote for whoever ends up on top.
There is only one that I am actively rooting against and hope I don’t have to hold my nose to vote for her.

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 08:53 PM

16. I agree sheshe2, we have a plethora of excellent candidates so far, and many have not even declared

yet. It's going to be a tough one.

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 09:00 PM

18. We are on the same wavelength. As a Biden supporter from the 2008 primaries,

I'd like to see him at the top of a National Recovery ticket, committed to a single term, with any of those three as a running mate. Any of those three women would make a great POTUS, IMO.

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 09:00 PM

19. Same here. Add Sherrod Brown and it will be even tougher.

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Response to blm (Reply #19)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 10:20 PM

45. Brown/Biden

Biden/Brown???????

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Response to bdamomma (Reply #45)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 04:34 PM

115. Biden/Brown

Dream ticket, but as long as Biden is at the head of the ticket Very important, someone pointed out that Biden is the only
one of the declared candidates to have foreign relations credentials.

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Response to disndat (Reply #115)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 10:34 PM

126. Look at all the young women that voters put into the House

I think that says something about voters wanting new faces with new ideas. Why two men when there are so many intelligent qualified women?

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Response to womanofthehills (Reply #126)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 10:40 PM

127. Agreed.

If Obama hadn't resurrected Biden's career by selecting him as VP, almost nobody would think it wise to nominate him (prone to gaffes, even older than Trump, twice fallen way short of getting nominated, Thomas-Hill hearing past, etc.).

And this notion that we must nominate a white male (never mind 2 white males) is very misguided. See post #125.

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 09:26 PM

25. Same here, but the one good thing about it...

With very few exceptions (so far), I will still have no problem voting for the eventual candidate, regardless of which one of them wins the primary. There are a couple for whom I might have to hold my nose while casting my vote, but they're still head and shoulders above the asshole they're trying to unseat.

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 09:29 PM

28. I like all 3 and will take any of them

Picking one will be hard. I am going to wait awhile and see how it goes.

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 09:31 PM

29. For me it is too early

Being from CA, I know Harris best.

Currently I am ignoring the negative posts, (one person here seems to have had one for all announced so far) and content to wait for them to all get through the initial introductory stage. Once we get to the debates then we should have a clear top tier, basically the creme will rise.

That being said, I don't really have one that sticks out as horrible, (one minor candidate and Schultz, but no need to go negative) which is good. I don't see a John Edwards in the group, someone who set off major alarms for me but sold the progressive persona.

So, hard choices are good, let's allow this to play out and force the media to cover this fairly.

While driving today there was some lady on with Nicole Wallace who did it right. The Repuke guests were playing the "too far left meme," she called them out! You can't say Warren's tax plan is supported by 70% polled and then turn around and say she is too far left! RIGHT!!! If too far left is 70% of the polled population then you are full of shit or you are admitting that you are working for 5 to 10% of the population that is too far right.



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Response to rufus dog (Reply #29)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 10:27 PM

46. Me too

Too early yet. Good choices though. I can do without repigs dirty illegal tricks. It's Repigs who need to go. Haven't done one thing for the citizens.

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 09:40 PM

33. I like Sen Harris, and I'm tuning in to Rachel to learn more about Klobuchar tonight.

I don't know much about her. The snow thing was odd to me but I get that the optics worked for people from other parts of the country. Anyway, Sen AK definitely has a swagger about her and I'm curious to learn more.

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Response to ecstatic (Reply #33)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 04:56 PM

118. That was all about Klobuchar confronting the inevitable "not tough enough" label.

It had people talking. She's not my preferred candidate, but I think that was a smart move.

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 09:41 PM

34. Tougher than the choices will be...

...riding the season out here. I am loving Dem Women a lot -- I am not loving the snarling and backbiting and trolling that has already begun here. I mean, did you know (breathless horrified whisper) that Kamala Harris was in no way a "progressive" prosecutor? I heard it here, so it must be true. >sigh<

All I know for real is that Dem Women are The Best. Solidarity, Sisters!

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Response to Hekate (Reply #34)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 09:57 PM

37. Umm.

Someone said Kamala should go fly a kite.They meant, FO...

My post was to send her soaring!

Mary Poppins. Silly perhaps....or perhaps not.. I love this scene.





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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 09:48 PM

35. Your top three are mine too, at least so far ...

It's way too early to make a final decision on anyone yet. But I'm willing to give every candidate a fair listen. When our party selects its nominee next year, I pledge to support her/him with my vote and whatever time I can volunteer. Until then the field is wide open and we have a very large tent.



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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 09:49 PM

36. I knew we would have an embarrassment of riches...

I have been saying that since 2016 - that while some said "we had no one," I felt we had so many great candidates it would be hard to choose!

I am still loving Kamala, and thinking of the rest as potential running mates for her, but I have the feeling I will be happy with whoever claims the nomination.

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 10:07 PM

38. A Harris / Klobuchar team? A Harris / Warren team? A Warren / Klobuchar team?

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 10:13 PM

40. I think many of us have that problem. I have at least four to consider, maybe more when they....

...jump in (in almost my preferred order, subject to change):

Klobuchar
Booker
Harris
Castro

I also have a few that I've already tossed, whether they've announced or not.

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Response to George II (Reply #40)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 10:19 PM

44. It is going to very hard, George.

Mine were the first three. They made an impression on me. Way to early yet. I am going to listen hard to what they all have to say.

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 10:13 PM

42. Biden/Beto,Amy,Stacy

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 10:28 PM

47. Well the truth is, based on the comments on this thread, that

every candidate has some minor flaws.

I noticed you asked for links from the person who thought Kamala should go fly a kite.

I'm sure you know these, and forgive me if I'm telling you what you already know, but:

https://votesmart.org/ is a really good site for looking at what candidates have actually done. It also has links to their websites, bios, speeches, and ratings from various groups on issues. It also has a 'political courage' rating under 'positions.'

https://www.opensecrets.org/ is where to find how much money their campaigns have received and from whom. I like it because it gives the percent of funds coming from small donors. I always look at that.

I usually also look at each candidates' website, obviously, and research articles that have been written about them. Now, I like to see negative articles from the right because that shows our person has gravitas - judge a person by the quality of her enemies, as it were. And by where they stand on the Green New Deal (my grandkids need that now), healthcare and social security. Those are my issues.

Now, about Kamala - I don't think she should go fly a kite, but to my mind (as an economist) she's a bit weak on fiscal and monetary policy. Nothing else about her scares me.

I've said this before, but Booker's opponents will try and tar him with Wall Street affiliations.

Klobuchar is a good candidate - I haven't looked deeply into her positions as yet.

Gillibrand will not enjoy my support in the primary but I will obviously support her fervently if she is our nominee. Hope not, though, for Franken's sake.

I don't know much about Castro except that he has very little executive experience.

I love Warren because I'm a fiscal and monetary policy wonk, and she totally gets it. I'd rather she stay in the Senate though, because ultimately I think she will get more done there - to my mind she's taken over as the Lion of the Senate from Teddy (or Lioness, we should say). The Wall Street lizards, corporate shareholder primacy people, MIC and billionaire parasites all absolutely hate her, so that's very encouraging.

Bloomberg...no. I agree with AOC on that. A society that allows billionaires is immoral.

I like Sherrod Brown. Very solid progressive. He'd be great.

Biden...no. The 2005 bankruptcy law he supported betrayed our children and grandchildren and is helping to make them debt slaves. In my state alone, 733,700 people owe an average of $35,000 in student loan debt and are remitting an aggregate of $2.7 billion a year that is leaving our state, not being used to purchase local goods and services, and even worse, about 85,000 people are in default - they can't buy or sell cars or homes, their wages are garnished forever, the loan principal keeps growing and their credit is ruined. They don't get tax refunds, and their schools won't release transcripts. And, due to this law, THEY CAN NEVER GET RELIEF FROM THESE DEBTS THROUGH BANKRUPTCY. Biden did this to our children and grandchildren and I will actively oppose him tooth and nail. Plus, he was a good ol' boy in the Anita Hill hearings. My wife dislikes him for that, though I'm not happy with it either. He was a good VP for Obama, but...no.

Tulsi Gabbard - many people around her really seem to dislike her, it seems for her foreign policy leanings, and for her unfortunate anti-LGBTQ stances through about 2010, when she 'evolved' on gay rights as did so many others. Pardon my cynicism.

Beto? He kind of went like John Lennon for awhile, but he's getting his mojo back with that Trump demonstration down in El Paso. Like Obama, Beto is new and untried. I sure like the way he talks thought.

Bernie? Well, I was a huge Bernie supporter in the bitter 2016 primaries. I'd rather he not run this time because others have picked up his torch, and he unfortunately (and somewhat unjustly to my mind) has been tarred with racism, or at least a cavalier attitude toward social justice as opposed to economic justice.

In the meantime we should all be ready - the right wing will be working really, really hard 24/7/365 to ridicule, discredit and divide us around candidates, and in my 60 years I've seen us be stupid and fall for that far more often than I've seen us stick it out and stick together.

As Obama said - we cannot allow the perfect to be the enemy of the good.



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Response to PatrickforO (Reply #47)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 11:11 PM

64. Clean up crew...the OP asked me for links after I made my initial post...

I was not the poster of 'go fly a kite' who has since deleted the post. Don't even try to hang that one on me, friend.

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Response to pecosbob (Reply #64)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 12:59 AM

81. The kite person was Joet67.

I wasn't even thinking of you when I made this rather long-winded post. Seemed like sheshe asked for links from somebody, I thought it was Joet.

Doesn't matter, really. We all have our opinions about the candidates, and we're all free to have them. I know quite a few people might disagree with me on Biden, and they are free to do that. Biden would definitely be better than Trump, but I've seen so very many millennials who have just been buried under mountains of student debt and it is sick. Biden was wrong for supporting that law then, and he's still wrong now.

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Response to PatrickforO (Reply #47)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 01:01 AM

82. Harris and Brown were also on the Franken train with Gillibrand.

Since you mentioned it, and in case you didn't know. So was Warren, although I think she was late in the game and didn't step on a soapbox about it...sounded more like she went along, since the others did.

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Response to Honeycombe8 (Reply #82)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 04:04 AM

88. Booker, too

I am fully aware that I am letting personal relations color my stance on this, but in the primaries I will support no Senator among those who urged Al to resign without a full, public, and sincere apology. If no candidate of my preference runs, I will sit the primaries out, and watch from the sidelines. I'm not interested in doing the Republicans' work for them (liked so many "Democrats" did in 2016, e.g.), so I have no interest in trashing one declared Democrat after another. SOMEbody will get our nomination, and I will not take part in making them damaged goods before the 2020 fall campaign begins.

I will absolutely support our nominee for President, of course, there is no question on that. But in the primaries, the mob hit on Al is a deal killer for me.

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Response to DFW (Reply #88)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 09:10 AM

93. My feelings exactly. Except I don't think of it as personal feelings.

I view it as making them ineligible to be President, because I think the early ones did it because they thought it was good for their upcoming Presidential run....it took a strong, possible contender out of the running. Some of the public had been asking Franken to run. Also, Franken was stealing thunder at hearings and being asked to appear on talk shows. Also, it got the first ones on the news and talk shows.

Second, it was obvious it was a Republican manipulation from the start. So it was naive for them to fall for it. (Look at who called immediately for Northam to resign, before all the facts were known,and even though Northam is a state-elected official, out of the jurisdiction of any of the Dems running for President.)

Third, the behavior complained of wasn't criminal, and a couple were jokes or nothing inappropriate, like the hand around the waist. The reaction was overkill and the ouster was unfair.

Note: Beto and Klochuchar are, I think, the only possible Presidential candidates who didn't immediately jump in on demanding Northam resign. That shows independent thinking, IMO. Maybe they weren't asked. But the others weren't all asked.

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Response to Honeycombe8 (Reply #93)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 09:42 AM

97. Your second point is of high importance to me

Falling for a manipulated Republican scheme is a dangerous item to have on a Democratic presidential resumé. It raises the question as to whether they will be vulnerable to future scams from Fox and other Republican dirty tricks organizations. I want a president who questions such scams and the motives behind them as a matter of course. If I wanted a president who lets himself be manipulated by Fox Noise, well, hell, we have that already.

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Response to DFW (Reply #97)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 09:51 AM

98. True. Obama didn't immediately react to situations, most of the time.

He gave it time and thought. He was no fool to immediately react publicly to situations. He was hard to manipulate.

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Response to Honeycombe8 (Reply #98)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 10:22 AM

99. I know. Republicans go berserk when I tell them Obama was conservative.

They think their own perverted meaning of the word is the only one, but in English (as opposed to Republicanese), "conservative (small c)" just means taking a cautious approach to things, and Obama was nothing if not that. Even Democrats often refer to the "conservative" media, when there is, in fact, no such thing.

In Republicanese, of course, "a Conservative" means a hateful, jealous, intolerant, fearful, angry Republican with an inferiority complex.

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Response to DFW (Reply #99)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 03:08 PM

112. Exactamundo. Except I referred to Obama as moderate.

I thought it was odd that people were surprised by some of his moderate stances, since I thought he'd shown he was moderate all through the campaign, except fr a couple of positions.

I miss him.

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 10:33 PM

48. we have an embarassment of riches. They have a traitor who no one else feels they can "better"

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 10:35 PM

49. i would support and vote for whichever one of these highly qualified....

….Dems come out first..providing they didnt get there via dirty tricks or bullying tactics. I have to LIKE them. If I dont like them I will hold my nose and vote....but I will still vote Dem. We all need to pinky promise.....

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Response to samnsara (Reply #49)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 10:44 PM

51. Frankly.

There is not one DEMOCRAT that in the last, final vote I would have to hold my nose for. Not one. I vote Democratic. Period.

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #51)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 10:49 PM

55. Same here. Fall in love in the primary, then enthusiastically work for the nominee

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Response to emulatorloo (Reply #55)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 10:59 PM

61. Truth.

Fingers off the nose. Eyes are always on the prize.

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 10:47 PM

52. With California's primary being moved up to an earlier date (it's about time)

Kamala Harris could be uniquely positioned to take a dominating lead early on. Especially if she does well in the first few primaries. It's all speculation at this point, but she just may be the right person at the right time and from the right place.


As much as I like Elizabeth Warren and of course would be happy to vote for her if she was the nominee, I would love to see her be Treasury Secretary and scare the living shit out of the financial criminals that are ruining the country for 90% of us.

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 10:48 PM

53. Harris all the way. Not white. Not a man. Period. nt

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Response to MadDAsHell (Reply #53)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 10:17 PM

125. I'm with you. And with good reason.

Article 1: https://www.rollcall.com/news/politics/the-blue-wave-was-propelled-by-black-voters-survey-finds

Democrats looking to propel the party’s electoral gains into 2020 should continue to focus on African-American voter turnout, an effort that goes hand-in-hand with removing barriers to voting, the survey’s sponsors concluded.


Article 2: https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2017-12-17/black-voters-lead-a-democratic-surge

Our electorate is becoming increasingly diverse, and the Republican Party's viability is wholly dependent upon racism and sexism. It is imperative, if we wish to move in the direction of justice and equity, that we emphasize anti-racism and anti-sexism. There is always a white backlash to racial progress, even if it's merely the election of the nation's first Black president (who was mostly quiet about issues of race), but every bit of progress bends the arc toward justice.

Those who think we must nominate a white male or shy away from "identity politics" are severely misguided. It plays into right wing hands. The absurdly false and contradictory "white working class economic anxiety/down with identity politics" narrative that followed the 2016 election was a right wing seed--the media and, sadly, many on the left end of the political spectrum (from Bernie Sanders to Tim Ryan) happily watered that seed.

That anyone thinks flipping Trump voters is the key to success in 2020 is laughable.

If we nominate Harris, we will see record-breaking turnout in our favor. She'll force Trump (or whoever) to spend a lot of resources in North Carolina, Georgia, Florida, Arizona, etc.

In 2016, the white backlash was running hot, Trump had newness going for him, our nominee had been under attack for 25+ years, Comey made a damaging last minute announcement, and then there was Russia's influence. We still have to deal with voter suppression and a piss-poor media (and Russia's social media campaign isn't dead), but I fully expect PA and MI to be blue again (as they were for 6 straight presidential elections prior to 2016) and I fully expect WI to be blue again (as it was for 7 straight presidential elections prior to 2016). And we don't have to appeal to racists in order to make that happen.

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 10:56 PM

58. we definitely have a wealth of qualified candidates

I'm looking forward to seeing this all shake out.

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 10:57 PM

59. I think I'll want to see how they all campaign against each other.

It will be interesting to see how they interact and react when challenged with something other than blithering, blundering Republicans.

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 10:58 PM

60. Right now, I'm for all of them.

I slipped a little bit on one of the first ones to declare, but I recovered.

Dems only, of course.

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 11:10 PM

63. I'm not going to jump on any bandwagons yet because there is a whole caravan of them

and I could happily vote for almost any of the declared and probably-to-be-declared candidates. Obviously I'd vote for whichever Dem got the nomination, but unless the field gets winnowed down quite a bit by next year, it will be really hard to make a choice. I wouldn't support Gabbard or Gillibrand in the primaries but I could go for any of the others. The question is what to do when these good people start running against each other (and I hope nobody goes negative).

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 11:25 PM

67. Totally agree. nt

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 11:27 PM

68. Today, I think Kamala won the millennials

when she advocated for marijuana legalization as she proudly declared her Jamaican heritage. I love her and do so more every day. I'll vote of course for our nominee, but she is my true choice.

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Response to WhiteTara (Reply #68)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 11:34 PM

69. Hey, you.

Loving her as well.

To early yet, however I like her a lot.

Waiting for more from all. This is going to be interesting.

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #69)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 11:58 PM

74. Hey You!



I've been in some very strange headspace; I'm hoping to surface soon! So, it's good to see you.

I'm excited about Kamala and I got more excited when I found out that Ann Richards' grand daughter is working on her campaign. I like Amy and Elizabeth and all the rest; but she has that magic something. I think if Beto was her running mate, it could be so dynamite. He has the charisma to back her up. But who knows what the heck is going to happen.

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Response to WhiteTara (Reply #74)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 12:10 AM

78. I have been in some strange head space too.

To early yet I have my favorites.

Just read that Beto had a huge crowd tonight. Far larger than the Moran.

Hugs.

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Response to WhiteTara (Reply #74)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 12:38 AM

80. Turnout for a Harris-O'Rourke ticket would top the 2008 numbers. Bank on it.

In fact, with that ticket, I think we could see 60+ percent turnout, which we haven't seen since the '60s.

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Response to Garrett78 (Reply #80)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 04:16 AM

89. That would have a couple of interesting aspects to it.

It has been a long time since we have had a Democratic ticket without East Coast representation. I think Clinton-Gore was the last one. Johnson-Humphrey was the last Democratic ticket with both candidates being from west of the Mississippi (Humphrey just barely). The west-southwest combo of Harris-O'Rourke would be a new color in the rainbow. For that matter, Klobuchar-O'Rourke would duplicate the Johnson-Humphrey distribution, if in reverse.

We should also beware of gutting our Senate roster. If a Senator from Massachusetts or Ohio should become President, a Republican governor will pick their replacement in the Senate. We will need to flip a great number of Senate seats if we let one or two slide in that manner.

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Response to DFW (Reply #89)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 06:02 AM

90. 1 reason, though not the only 1, why I'm opposed to Brown being on the ticket is...

...that we simply cannot afford to give up a Senate seat. We're already at such a major disadvantage.

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Response to Garrett78 (Reply #90)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 08:28 AM

92. He just won re-election last year

That is a six year term I would hate to have shortened. Ohio Senate seats are not easy for us to win.

Though, like you, that is not the only reason for me either.

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Response to DFW (Reply #92)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 12:05 PM

104. A lot of people seem to think we'll have no problem taking control of the Senate in 2021.

I think just getting to 50 seats will be a tall order. I'm much more confident about taking back the White House.

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Response to Garrett78 (Reply #104)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 01:21 PM

106. I unfortunately agree

The wind is blowing in our favor, but the wind can change on a dime. We need to field not just good candidates, but EXCELLENT candidates. We need a lot of Mark Kellys, and charismatic moderate candidates in states where no other Democrat stands a chance. We need Senate candidates with Kelly's resumé, Beto's charisma, Klobuchar's attention to detail, and Cory Booker's intensity. And we need lots of them. The Republicans will be putting up the fight of their lives, because if they lose their majority in the Senate, they lose their last bastion of power to stem the rising Democratic tide, and they see this as their Alamo. We will see dirty tricks and "coincidental accidents" happening to Democratic Senate candidates like we haven't seen in years. "Don't take any small private planes" will not just be a cynical joke this time. It's a warning I'd take quite seriously, because I'm sure the Republicans do.

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Response to DFW (Reply #106)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 02:58 PM

110. There's the simple fact that the Senate is an anti-democratic institution.

More than half the states are stark red. And before long, 2/3rds of the population will be represented by 1/3rd of the Senate. John Dingell said we need to get rid of the Senate, and he's right. We should also expand the House.

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Response to Garrett78 (Reply #110)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 04:16 PM

113. Not having that way would have been a deal-breaker--in 1787

The smaller colonies wanted some assurance that they would't be de facto voted into either irrelevance or subjugation by the larger colonies, so when they became states, they insisted on the Senate as a way of evening out the playing field.

Of course, no one in 1787 imagined a state like Wyoming having the same number of Senators as a state with 64 times as many inhabitants, or their electoral votes being almost 4 times as representative as those of California.

In 1787, the west coast was split between the Spaniards, the Russians and the British, and the most daring expansion westward was Jefferson borrowing money from Britain to make the Louisiana Purchase from France. We can't fault the founding fathers for not imagining today's population distribution. We CAN fault today's legislators for refusing to adapt to it.

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Response to DFW (Reply #113)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 04:47 PM

116. I think we now have 80 times as many people here in California.

When the largest had maybe 13 times as many people as the smallest and the overall population was relatively low, it wasn't the atrocity it is now. Like the electoral college, it is in many ways a vestige of slavery. Disproportionate power without having to count fellow human beings as human beings.

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 12:09 AM

76. I think we have to look at the experiences that candidates bring. Quite a lot of depth for Dems.

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 12:09 AM

77. It would be nice if we did not have

the kind of virulence here that we saw in the 2016 primary.

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Response to Turbineguy (Reply #77)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 12:16 AM

79. Yeah, well.

Lol....already happening.

However I am in it to win.

I want to fly a kite
Up to the highest height...

With tuppence for paper and strings
You can have your own set of wings
With your feet on the ground
You're a bird in a flight
With your fist holding tight
To the string of your kite
Oh, oh, oh!
Let's go fly a kite
Up to the highest height!
Let's go fly a kite and send it soaring
Up through the atmosphere
Up where the air is clear
Oh, let's go fly a kite!
When you send it flyin' up there
All at once you're lighter than air

You can dance on the breeze
Over 'ouses and trees
With your…

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 01:21 AM

84. I'm still waiting for someone who appeals to me.

They are all pro-choice, pro-Social Security, pro-Medicare, etc. So no problems there.

But I don't see any who appeal to me or who I think can win (meaning I don't see some as having appeal across the country in the states that we need to win).

Harris - I think she is an urban, coast candidate. I don't know if she would appeal to the average Democrat in the Wisconsin-Michigan-Ohio area. Maybe Florida, though. She was on the Franken ouster train, though, and also jumped on Northam ouster before all the facts were known, and despite him being a state-elected official not in her state.

Warren - I don't think she can win, esp with the Native American issue. I think that will continue to attach to her. It's just an odd thing that will be distracting, on top of her appeal mainly to urban coast Democrats, but not so much across the country.

Gillibrand - Nope. I don't think she has much of a chance. She's not memorable or anything that a Presidential candidate needs to be. And she was the face of the Franken ouster movement. (Harris, Sherrod Brown, and Warren also signed on to that ouster campaign.)

Klobuchar - Maybe. I don't know enough about her. There are allegations she was abusive to staff. So we need to hear about that, and find out whether this is a Republican manipulation tactic. One story is that she three a binder at a staffer. If true, that's a problem. But this needs to be cleared up. To her credit, she did not jump on the oust-Franken train. That makes her a leader in the sense that she does what she thinks is right, rather than what's popular at the time or what may be best for her politically.

Biden - I agree with another poster about the bankruptcy issue with him. Also, his age is an issue because of the age he'll be in 2024.

Brown - I don't know enough about him. He would appeal to Democrats across the country, though, I think. Both coasters and mid-country. He was on the Franken ouster train, though. And he jumped on the Northam ouster train before all the facts were even known, and despite Northam being a state-elected official, not in Brown's state.

Beto - He hasn't announced, but I'm interested. Don't know enough about him. He's very green for a Presidential race. But he gets me more excited than any of the others.

Gov. Bullock - He hasn't announced, and I don't know much about him. But I'm interested, since he's a Governor and actually got conservatives to vote for him in his state, while remaining a Democrat. He would have appeal in the mid-U.S., including Iowa, Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio area, I think. But he might be too moderate. He's an unknown.

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 09:29 AM

96. There's lots of talent in the presidential pool.

I'm especially impressed by the women who are currently contenders.

It's going to be difficult to decide among them, so I'm like you. I'll be waiting to see what they propose and how they propose those things.

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 11:56 AM

102. Isn't it the best problem ever?

An embarrassment of riches!

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Response to Codeine (Reply #102)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 12:30 PM

105. Exactly!

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 11:57 AM

103. KH Is Still #1 For Me

Though Bennet has lately been making a strong impression

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 02:54 PM

108. Present State of Democratic Candidates

Right now, it is nice to see the numerous entries into the race for the Democratic nomination, but for me, it is way too early make a choice. Time will sort out who winds up with 2%, and who winds up with 42%, and this will emerge through the process of competition that will take place between now and next Spring. I eagerly await the process, and will put off making a choice until later.

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 02:59 PM

111. :) For me way too early, Sheshe. I'll entertain myself

occasionally for another year, but that's all. And imo, all polls before then are garbage polls for all purposes but those of political players trying to monitor the situation.

I was impressed by Rachel Maddow's admiration for someone too midwest for me to pay real attention to before, Amy Klobuchar. I respect Rachel and thus anyone she wants me to notice, and announcing in the snow was a good "visual." But I'll still wait to read the book once it's written.



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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 04:19 PM

114. Agreed, great field, hard choice...

It's a good day to be a Democrat.

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 04:58 PM

119. It's early and the field is large

In fact, not everyone has committed. I want to see the candidates on the campaign trail, then see how they handle all the pressures that will come their way. The debating cycle is also important to me to determine who can really think on their feet, make an argument, take no prisoners.

For me, it's just too early. But I have my favorites. That being said, I'm wide open to being surprised by someone who could blow it straight out of the water.

Right now, from the people who have announced? Kamala Harris is at the top of the my favorite list.

We shall see!

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 05:01 PM

120. I'm hoping for a female-dominated primary debate!

After decades of dudes, that would be so awesome!

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 06:52 PM

121. Don't stress yourself out. Just listen to what they have to say, and tune in to the debates. You've

got plenty of time to hear how they differ and what the strengths and weaknesses of each candidate are. There's no hurry too make a decision now.

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Response to Nitram (Reply #121)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 06:57 PM

122. I am not stressed at all.

It is going to be a hard choice since we have so many excellent people running. Does my heart good to see them and their love for our country.

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #122)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 09:50 PM

123. "I'm going to have a real hard time here," would generally be considered a symptom of stress. But I

get it, you were pointing out the plethora of fine democratic candidates. An "embarrassment of riches," so to speak.

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Response to Nitram (Reply #123)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 10:06 PM

124. Yes I was. Thanks for getting it, Nitram.

I am going to have a really hard time here.

We have so many excellent candidates to pick from. Here are my three so far.

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