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Mon Feb 11, 2019, 09:33 PM

How sad it must be for Trump supporters


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Reply How sad it must be for Trump supporters (Original post)
Empowerer Feb 2019 OP
walkingman Feb 2019 #1
olegramps Feb 2019 #31
certainot Feb 2019 #38
walkingman Feb 2019 #39
certainot Feb 2019 #40
walkingman Feb 2019 #41
certainot Feb 2019 #42
donkeypoofed Feb 2019 #2
Volaris Feb 2019 #8
BSdetect Feb 2019 #3
Wounded Bear Feb 2019 #4
guillaumeb Feb 2019 #5
Leghorn21 Feb 2019 #6
lunatica Feb 2019 #7
budkin Feb 2019 #9
DemocracyMouse Feb 2019 #10
Empowerer Feb 2019 #11
Xolodno Feb 2019 #16
HuskyOffset Feb 2019 #30
world wide wally Feb 2019 #12
crazytown Feb 2019 #13
Awsi Dooger Feb 2019 #17
Lock him up. Feb 2019 #26
MFGsunny Feb 2019 #35
sandensea Feb 2019 #14
OMGWTF Feb 2019 #15
c-rational Feb 2019 #18
smirkymonkey Feb 2019 #27
Ferrets are Cool Feb 2019 #19
PAMod Feb 2019 #20
Kablooie Feb 2019 #21
Aussie105 Feb 2019 #22
catbyte Feb 2019 #23
napi21 Feb 2019 #24
czarjak Feb 2019 #25
oasis Feb 2019 #28
scarytomcat Feb 2019 #29
lark Feb 2019 #32
NoMoreRepugs Feb 2019 #33
calimary Feb 2019 #34
SpankMe Feb 2019 #36
enid602 Feb 2019 #37
moondust Feb 2019 #43

Response to Empowerer (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 09:35 PM

1. Very sad and strange

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Response to walkingman (Reply #1)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 10:53 AM

31. His major appeal is to their racist prejudices. It matters not that he is a pathological liar.

It matters not to the evangelical end timers, be endorses his idiocy; it matters not to the wealthy whose only concern is amassing more wealth; it matters not to the white supremist radicals he is their messiah; it matters not to the under educated, he going to restore their long lost assembly jobs that are not coming back. Truth has nothing to do with it. Trump is just playing the suckers for all their worth. This is the rebirth of the No Nothings.

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Response to walkingman (Reply #1)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 05:27 PM

38. not strange when when you turn on any one of 1500 radio stations following

limbaugh's lead in excusing trump for everything he does, based on 30 years of accumulated repeated lying that has never been challenged - hillary was so much worse, there is no collusion, all made up by the deep state dems etc.

craig melvin of msnbc had on a rw radio host who's on 15 stations in texas to talk about the wall and melvin asked him "what are your callers saying" and they guy just repeated that the base wants a wall....

all these dumbasses who might call his show have been listening to limbaugh lies for years and they get all pissed off at democrats and the only shows they can call into are the local blowhards and they just repeat what limbaugh and the other national blowhards have said and the conventional wisdom that that's 40% and they want a wall.

and limbaugh claims to know what the "people want" even tho he goes from limo to private jet top studio to limo the mara largo to pick up some laundered russian money. and he's cheered on every shutdown since the 90s and continues to say it really won't harm republicans and shutdowns are good.

and all this wall crap evolved out of 20 years of constant lying about immigrants, mostly to sell voter suppression legislation. and limbaugh is still telling 10's of millions from a protected monopoly on public airwaves that democrats want illegal brown people here so they can vote for dems - to destroy america.

and dems just stick their fingers in theirears and say that's what the trump base wants to believe, it's free speech, etc.

this isn't going to change until democrats/left/liberals stop letting a few hundred racist assholes on 1500 radio stations yell the same lies all day with no organized opposition.

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Response to certainot (Reply #38)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 05:48 PM

39. So it's a case of if you say something enough it becomes true or is it herd mentality?

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Response to walkingman (Reply #39)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 07:35 PM

40. there's a herd of idiots who believe the alt reality because it gets repeated without direct challen

challenge from the left - that's the dominant political buzz in 40 states with 80 senators. the idiots on fox and the GOP reps and media hacks know they can repeat the dominant lies because they know/feel that they have been pounded into the earholes of 50 mil per week for months, even years.

if the GOP and putin would pay $1000/hr for radio lies denying global warming, making excuses for trump, selling deregulation and tax breaks, and defunding public ed, then 1200 radio stations 15hrs/day are worth about $5BIL/year FREE and without direct challenge or correction.

for thirty years they've had carnival barkers on every corner and stump in the country lying and hating all day, coordinated nationally and locally, and no one got in their face. eventually it becomes truth and the racism becomes more 'acceptable', and when media guys like eric boehlert blames everything on fox because he can't watch or read talk radio it's even worse.

and the minority of actual dittoheads/teabags who actually listen to the crap and believe it repeat it to secondary and tertiary audiences too busy or apathetic to fact check.

ignoring talk radio has been the biggest political mistake in history - and the dem party and progressive groups don't even complain that more than 88 universities endorse 260 limbaugh stations!



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Response to certainot (Reply #40)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 08:06 PM

41. Thanks for the link - very interesting.

A perfect example is KLBJ-AM in Austin (formally owned b the LBJ family)- the most progressive city in Texas and the airways is totally right-wing. Weird.

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Response to walkingman (Reply #41)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 11:02 PM

42. it's a well protected monopoly and there are lots of heavily blue areas dominated by

rw radio.

some trolls but a lot of liberals who've never heard any or know talk radio continue to repeat the rw talking points protecting that 20-1 monopoly - that it's an expression of market demand and free speech

and in austin the uni of texas does one limbaugh station

when those unis start pulling out too many advertisers will pull out for rw radio to survive in places like that

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Response to Empowerer (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 09:45 PM

2. That about sums it up!

One Trump voter even said she wished the media had vetted him more. Why would she expect someone else to do that for her?! Doesnt she gave a "Google machine"? Geez.

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Response to donkeypoofed (Reply #2)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 10:31 PM

8. And after he goes to prison, she will say she never ever voted for him...

'i SUPPORT the Union'
'nixon WAS a crook'
Iraq DIDNT have wmd.


If we allow them their lies, they will do this again.

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Response to Empowerer (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 09:45 PM

3. Not so much sad but revelling in their hatred released? Until they see their tax return verdict.

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Response to Empowerer (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 09:51 PM

4. Funny how that works out...

and not funny "ha-ha" either.

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Response to Empowerer (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 09:52 PM

5. Amazing summary.

Recommended.

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Response to Empowerer (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 09:55 PM

6. KICK

So fkn true and sad

Damn

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Response to Empowerer (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 09:59 PM

7. More than sad, it's pathetic.

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Response to Empowerer (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 10:34 PM

9. The worst that humanity has to offer

I just don't understand why.

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Response to Empowerer (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 10:44 PM

10. These people are far removed, psycho-socially from the information industries

I spoke to the fellow working on my septic system tje other day. Basically a nice guy, but he said the old nonsense about liking Trump because "he says it straight."

"Even when he's lying?" I asked him.

Septuc systems fellow said "Well I don't know who to believe anymore."

I asked him if he read any newspapers. He said "no."

So there you have it.

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Response to DemocracyMouse (Reply #10)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 10:47 PM

11. That's what they do

When caught on Trump's lies, they fall into the "I don't know who to believe" and "They all lie" arguments.

But bring up Hillary and they sing an entirely different tune.

Ignorant sheep. It all boils down to the fact that Trump hates the right people and that's good enough for them.

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Response to DemocracyMouse (Reply #10)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 11:05 PM

16. One of my favorites..."I get my news from all over"...

....Bullshit.

You get your news "all over" from web sites, TV channels that tell you what you want to hear. Just massaging their ignorance. I have my trusted sources...then I have sources that are in opposition to everything I believe in...and I read them. Vast majority of the time, its opinionated spin that should be ignored (but they take as fact). But every once in awhile they do bring up a valid point. But alas, its a needle in a hay stack.

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Response to Xolodno (Reply #16)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 10:01 AM

30. Yeah, but isn't that like...

...having an olympic sized swimming pool filled with raw sewage with a dozen gold nuggets worth $1 million? I mean, sure, it's a lot of money, but would you want to swim in there to find the few valuable nuggets?

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Response to Empowerer (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 10:48 PM

12. Ironic and so true!

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Response to Empowerer (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 10:51 PM

13. They are not sad, they are proud.

They proud that facts and experts don’t matter to them anymore. They are proud of their leader who tells it like it is, no matter what anyone else says. Тhey are proud of the lies they hold self evident come hell or high water. They are proud to defend and protect their white privilege come what may. They want their country back, a country that never existed.

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Response to crazytown (Reply #13)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 11:15 PM

17. That is the correct summary

Trump supporters are unconcerned about daily developments that trend against their viewpoint. They don't care about tax refunds or anything similar. That's why Trump's approval rating remains so remarkably stable within a tiny range. It is also the reason that 2020 will be extremely tight either way. Only a small sliver of the electorate is prone to shift in either direction during a Trump presidency or re-election cycle.

I guess it feels good to write articles about shamed Trump supporters but anyone who knows that type or posts on forums where they post understands that it is laughable hogwash. They'll use trivia like a cold day to support their climate change denial but nothing is sufficient to shift their opinion.

More Trump supporters from 2016 will die before 2020 than will change their mind about him.

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Response to Awsi Dooger (Reply #17)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 04:26 AM

26. 2020 will be tight if he's not out by then

but he won't win the EC in Pennsylvania, Michigan & Wisconsin.

Wait to see the House commitees' investigations and their irrefutable evidence. Independents will not go his way this time, and the millenials don't vote R by a large gap.

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Response to Lock him up. (Reply #26)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 03:43 PM

35. I totally agree. We must take NOTHING for granted and .....


continue all efforts to get out the vote and engage any/all respectful persuasion where meaningful; plus, each and every day, from yesterday to election day, is likely to offer us new and varied opportunities for GOTV and persuasion.

My mantra is:

RESIST - all Dumpsters' fraud and lies

PERSIST - in educating, researching, discussing and sharing issues that matter

INSIST - on truth and integrity reflective of our values. Period.



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Response to Empowerer (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 10:52 PM

14. "Punch minorities and faw'ners in the face, and I'll believe the sky's green."

The new GOPee voter credo.

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Response to Empowerer (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 10:55 PM

15. Brainwashed Fidiots!

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Response to Empowerer (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 11:27 PM

18. The culmination of four decades of corporate media painted incorrectly as liberal.

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Response to c-rational (Reply #18)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 04:50 AM

27. +1000

This right here.

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Response to Empowerer (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 11:31 PM

19. They are too brainwashed and

or stupid to understand this reality.

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Response to Empowerer (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 11:46 PM

20. "Sad" isn't the first descriptive that comes to mind...

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Response to Empowerer (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 11:56 PM

21. Yes but they only have to worry about Benghazi and Hillary's emails.

We have a mountain of crimes to worry about and more mounting up every day.

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Response to Empowerer (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 12:16 AM

22. For the non-thinkers

it's very comforting to say that you won't take any notice of anything until the Benghazi thing and the Email thing has been investigated properly and Hillary has been locked up.

Then I will know everything is right with the world and it's ok to take more notice of what is happening today.

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Response to Empowerer (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 01:53 AM

24. If you want to feel sorry for them, that's certainly understand that, but your reasons are in error.

My oldest son is one of the orange man's supporters. He will admit he's done some wrong things, but wears the majority of what he's done was the right things for the Country. We both agreed never to get into a political fight, but once in a while we have a discussion. He firmly believes that all the Dem. Presidents since he's been alive have been crooks! Of course the Pubs weren't (Ha Ha) He's really a repug supporter.. Some people have told me it's because he was in the military for 15 years, and although he's not right now, he's working as the site manager for our aircraft base in Afghanistan, To me, that's still quasi military. I have no other explanation for his beliefs, so maybe that's it, but he's a very smart, rational man in all other parts of his life. He looks at the decisions made by Dems that reduce the military budget as harmful to the military and his buddies. He hated Clinton for reducing the military budget and will not recognize that many people asked for that decrease as "the peace dividend". However he was told to do a job, which was always aircraft repairs, and he couldn't because they wouldn't give him the $$ to buy the parts he needed to do that job.

Feel sorry for those people because they've been brainwashed and don't even know it.

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Response to Empowerer (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 02:02 AM

25. Sad, HAHA...

Sad, I told you fucking so?

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Response to Empowerer (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 07:31 AM

28. Deplorable dipshits will vote for Trump next chance they get.

Stupidity runs deep in these people.

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Response to Empowerer (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 09:34 AM

29. so true

they just parrot what the talk shows say they question nothing

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Response to Empowerer (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 11:03 AM

32. drumpf supprters include KKK, (neo)Nazis, White Separatists, and militias.

They got the racial hate they wanted and that's really all they care about. Anyone other than them or ultra rich jerks that supports him is just truly stupid and ignorant and are shooting themselves in the foot with their votes, then wondering why it hurts so much.

Fixed typo

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Response to Empowerer (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 12:13 PM

33. Part 2: A fair number believe BHO is a Kenyan Muslim and the Earth is 6000 years old.

The first statement proves you are a racist, the second that YOU ARE JUST PLAIN STUPID.

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Response to Empowerer (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 01:34 PM

34. They're pathetic. Sorry. I've spent all this time since early in the campaign

trying to rationalize who and what these trump supporters are.

But by now? Forget it. I’m done. I’m done with that. I’ve seen plenty more than enough by now. They’re either deeply bent and twisted and racist and sexist and mean-spirited, OR they’re stupid, naive, gullible, and willfully, even PROUDLY ignorant. In the beginning, okay, anybody can make a mistake. But by now? Seeing what we’ve seen? Observing what we’ve repeatedly observed? And they’re STILL with him?

No more. NO more sympathy. NO MORE “see, you’ve gotta understand...” - as a trump apologist I know exhorted me to do, awhile ago. NO! I’m done. Enough. I’ve seen and heard and read and observed more than enough. The thing is - I DO understand. I already DO “understand” these people. They’re clear as day by now.

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Response to Empowerer (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 04:08 PM

36. Absolutely spot on true. n/t

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Response to Empowerer (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 04:20 PM

37. Taxes

Wait until they do their taxes. That’ll wake them up!!!!

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Response to Empowerer (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 11:18 PM

43. Twilight Zone material.

Although possibly too absurd even for Rod.

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