Presidential scholars rank the presidents: #Trump ranks 42nd,....in the BOTTOM 5!!

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Presidential scholars rank the presidents: George Washington most highly rated, FDR second; Donald Trump ranks 42nd, joining Andrew Johnson, James Buchanan, Warren Harding, Franklin Pierce in bottom five (Siena College Research Inst.) #PresidentsDay https://opiniontoday.com/2019/02/13/siena-presidential-expert-poll-washington-top-president-fdr-second-trump-enters-survey-at-42nd/ …

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Siena Presidential Expert Poll: Washington top president, FDR second; Trump enters survey at 42nd
February 13, 2019

For the sixth time since its inception in 1982, the Siena College Research Institute’s (SCRI) Survey of U.S. Presidents finds that experts rank Franklin D. Roosevelt, Teddy Roosevelt, Abe Lincoln, Thomas Jefferson and George Washington as the United States’ top five chief executives. The 157 participating presidential scholars for the first time name Washington as number one with FDR second, Lincoln third, Teddy Roosevelt fourth and Jefferson fifth. Donald Trump enters the survey as the 42nd rated president, and he joins Andrew Johnson, James Buchanan, Warren Harding and Franklin Pierce in the bottom five. CONT.

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[Drunken Irishman]

1. They rank Obama 17th, which is criminally underrated.

[PTWB]

5. He's definitely in the top 3 since Lincoln.

[California_Republic]

2. From the fake news! Coup!,

[3_Limes]

3. Just wait! He's only half way done.

He's got lots of tricks still up his sleeve!

(And no treats.)

[TreasonousBastard]

4. Oh, come on-- they put him ahead of Harding?

[Clash City Rocker]

6. No, only ahead of Johnson and Buchanan

Both of whom were very, very bad presidents.

[TreasonousBastard]

10. Doh! I was reading it backwards. One got us into the Civil War...

and the other did a bad job of getting us out of it.

At least Johnson got us Alaska, which Trump might give back to Putin.

[Clash City Rocker]

14. And one reason Lincoln belongs in the top 3 is that they came right before and after him

There was a string of ten presidents that included Lincoln, one decent president in Polk, and of the other eight, the best was maybe U.S. Jackson. Even if there were things you disliked about Lincoln, view him in context.

Funny, two of the worst came right before and after Obama, as well.

[kurtcagle]

12. Harding had a bad rap

Harding was not a good president, but for the most part his legacy came about because of the Teapot Dome scandal, and his inability to punish those responsible.

Andrew Johnson had the opportunity to positively rebuild the country after the war, but he was both corrupt and about as racist as they came (granted, Lincoln was no angel there, but he successfully led the country through its darkest hours).

Ultimately what will keep Trump in the basement is the degree of corruption that he BROUGHT to the White House, and his ties to multiple foreign powers that have continued the corruption within the White House. He's incompetent as well, but he's far from the first in that area.

[zipplewrath]

7. Don't like their method

Respondents ranked each of 44 presidents on a scale of 1 (poor) to 5 (excellent) on each of twenty presidential attributes, abilities and accomplishments. Overall rankings were computed by assigning equal weight to each of those twenty categories.

Differentiating between 45 people on a scale from one to 5 isn't good. 1 - 20 would be a bit better. And equal weighting of 20 categories doesn't make much sense either since some characteristics would be more important than others, especially at various historical periods.

Grant is rated way too high, as is Nixon. I also never though Lincoln should be anywhere near the top 5. And how does one put Kennedy above Obama?

[dsc]

15. Grant was actually amazing on Civil Rights

but the SCOTUS of his era struck down many of the laws he got passed.

[zipplewrath]

20. Ran a bad cabinet

It was rife with corruption.

[dsc]

21. clearly he had issues with being loyal to people who

he shouldn't have been loyal too but he also had some great qualities. He passed civil rights legislation that had it been permitted to stand would have given all citizens the rights that it took Johnson to deliver.

[salin]

8. Very interesting report - and reading the various rankings (on specific qualities and specific

issues).

Thanks for posting this.

[Clash City Rocker]

9. Trump ranked dead last in both integrity and intelligence

When Nixon is judged to have more integrity than you, it’s time to review your life.

https://scri.siena.edu/2019/02/13/sienas-6th-presidential-expert-poll-1982-2018/

[muriel_volestrangler]

23. and also last in Background, Executive Appointments and Overall Ability

Last but one in Party Leadership, Relationship with Congress, Ability to Compromise and Communication Ability.

Also of note: at the bottom of that link, there are 4 categories for "moved the country in the right or wrong direction", for the presidents since 1970. They're mixed up to GHW Bush; then Clinton and Obama get net positive scores in all 4 categories, and Dubya and the Orange Gibbon get net negative scores in all 4. Horrendously negative in Trump's case.

[LAS14]

11. What could Johnson and Buchanan have done to rate below Trump?????? nt

[dsc]

16. Johnson was a racist who botched Reconstruction completely

Buchanan dithered and let the Civil War happen.

[Clash City Rocker]

18. It mostly had to do with slavery

Although Buchanan was a Northerner, he mostly allied with the South on slavery issues, including the infamous Dred Scott decision. His actions made the Civil War much worse. Johnson tried to roll back any civil rights black people had gained under Lincoln. He barely survived impeachement.

[Gothmog]

19. From my twitter feed

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[lpbk2713]

13. Trump still has two more years to go.

He'll hit bottom soon enough.

[Gothmog]

17. History will not be kind to trump

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[Efilroft Sul]

22. How soon everyone forgets the Shrub for the bottom five.