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True Dough

(17,246 posts)
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:09 AM Feb 2019

Post one word that best describes how you feel about Bernie Sanders entering the 2020 race

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Post one word that best describes how you feel about Bernie Sanders entering the 2020 race (Original Post) True Dough Feb 2019 OP
AGAIN???? samnsara Feb 2019 #1
Eclipsed. brush Feb 2019 #359
Yawn n/t tazkcmo Feb 2019 #2
You beat me to it. WillowTree Feb 2019 #73
This message was self-deleted by its author ProudMNDemocrat Feb 2019 #3
Post one word that best describes how you feel about Bernie Sanders entering the 2020 race abqtommy Feb 2019 #4
Bored. WhiskeyGrinder Feb 2019 #5
Bozo trueblue2007 Feb 2019 #253
Hey! Them's fightin' words! DFW Feb 2019 #275
Divisive. nt UniteFightBack Feb 2019 #6
That was definitely my #2 pick! True Dough Feb 2019 #15
Hey, that's my Cha Feb 2019 #250
Puke. honest.abe Feb 2019 #7
annoyed treestar Feb 2019 #8
Exactly! NastyRiffraff Feb 2019 #220
Depressed. Adrahil Feb 2019 #9
Happy. Dennis Donovan Feb 2019 #10
+1000000. SammyWinstonJack Feb 2019 #219
+6,000,000 roody Feb 2019 #357
Bewildered..... ProudMNDemocrat Feb 2019 #11
Unhappy CrossingTheRubicon Feb 2019 #12
Excellent janterry Feb 2019 #13
Happy Johnny2X2X Feb 2019 #14
Yeah, cuz no other Dem candidates offer working people anything... MrsCoffee Feb 2019 #29
Only Bernie does. And he does it by SPEAKING OUT! Because his occasional conversations Squinch Feb 2019 #35
And birds landing on podiums is MAGICAL and A SIGN! Maru Kitteh Feb 2019 #114
ANd the Pope ambush nt Apollyonus Feb 2019 #182
That it was. I was there. Grasswire2 Feb 2019 #305
lol Apollyonus Feb 2019 #181
Yeah, that worked out so well for us in 2016. allgood33 Feb 2019 #216
On healthcare alone he has transformed Voltaire2 Feb 2019 #37
He was talking that for a decade or more Johnny2X2X Feb 2019 #49
Democrat John Conyers introduced his Medicare for All bill HR 676 for the first time in 2002. lapucelle Feb 2019 #62
Exactly. MrsCoffee Feb 2019 #67
Every new generation of teenagers is convinced that they invented sex. And they are oh so wrong! lapucelle Feb 2019 #75
And almost no one was aware of that. because no candidate made it a centerpiece of their campaign irresistable Feb 2019 #123
Democrats and activists were aware of it. lapucelle Feb 2019 #135
Democrats in general were NOT aware of it. irresistable Feb 2019 #139
Democrats in general were certainly aware of it, although new voters, political neophytes, lapucelle Feb 2019 #141
No one was making an effective public case for it. irresistable Feb 2019 #150
Conyers made an effective public case for 15 years, and it was being broadly discussed lapucelle Feb 2019 #157
It was so "effective" that a public option was not included in Obamacare. irresistable Feb 2019 #160
Politicians who made glib promises caved in 2009. lapucelle Feb 2019 #170
Those two events in NYS happened after Bernie popularized those ideas nationwide. irresistable Feb 2019 #176
The legislation was well in the works long before BS was on the scene. lapucelle Feb 2019 #233
Bernie proposed the $ 15 minimum wage in the Senate July 2015 and was campaigning on it... irresistable Feb 2019 #234
How did BS do with his federal proposal? What was the bill number? Can you link to the legislation lapucelle Feb 2019 #242
15 bucks an hour is becoming the new standard thanks to Bernie... irresistable Feb 2019 #273
The Amazon workers lost benefits when their minimum wage was raised. lapucelle Feb 2019 #276
They still have good benefits..... irresistable Feb 2019 #282
It was a zero sum game. What they gained in salary, they lost in benefits. lapucelle Feb 2019 #285
Not for the part-timers....and not for all of the people who have higher wages at other companies... irresistable Feb 2019 #287
I'm sure you read that somewhere, but really, "the people who were complaining at Amazon did so lapucelle Feb 2019 #289
My information is first hand. irresistable Feb 2019 #299
Ah, so your "evidence" is anecdotal and based on "multiple people" lapucelle Feb 2019 #321
Are you as condescending in the real world as you are online? irresistable Feb 2019 #323
Many people find data and empirical evidence more reliable than personal anecdotes lapucelle Feb 2019 #324
So, actual human experiences are of no use to you. You dismiss those out of hand. irresistable Feb 2019 #325
Wait...what? Actual human experiences are of no use to me? lapucelle Feb 2019 #333
You dismissed my personal experience as irrelevant. irresistable Feb 2019 #334
I'll take your response to mean, "There was no successful federal proposal, and the governor of VT lapucelle Feb 2019 #283
Do you have the bill number? awesomerwb1 Feb 2019 #264
When did Conyers run a national campaign? Voltaire2 Feb 2019 #207
Why would that matter? The uninformed are the uninformed, whether it's about lapucelle Feb 2019 #231
Because what Sanders did changed the discussion. Voltaire2 Feb 2019 #246
It wasn't the theme of his national campaign. BS didn't have a senate version of Medicare for All lapucelle Feb 2019 #272
Lulzd. Voltaire2 Feb 2019 #295
I always ask myself, "Who does that?" lapucelle Feb 2019 #297
When a discussion becomes mindless Voltaire2 Feb 2019 #362
John Dingell Sr. introduced his version for the first time in 1943. George II Feb 2019 #364
Yes! He JUMPED on that bandwagon! He did it with CONVICTION! Squinch Feb 2019 #68
..... lapucelle Feb 2019 #143
Only ONE Democrat Apollyonus Feb 2019 #185
Look at that beautiful lineup Sugarcoated Feb 2019 #240
smile .. I love the lineup too Apollyonus Feb 2019 #245
Medicare for all will be used to demonize us...consider polling shows that Demsrule86 Feb 2019 #340
Not true. Democrats have been talking about it for more than 75 years. George II Feb 2019 #365
A bit late to the party. Voltaire2 Feb 2019 #366
Meh NRaleighLiberal Feb 2019 #16
this one NatBurner Feb 2019 #151
Yep. GoCubsGo Feb 2019 #167
Auto-trash by keyword. Oh, on edit, ... and trash thread when one slips through the filters. DontBooVote Feb 2019 #17
Joe mainstreetonce Feb 2019 #18
That was my second choice after Beto Gothmog Feb 2019 #108
fine Kurt V. Feb 2019 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author Tech Feb 2019 #20
Welcome backtoblue Feb 2019 #21
Chariness. MrsCoffee Feb 2019 #22
Bemused malchickiwick Feb 2019 #23
Sexist cally Feb 2019 #24
Looks like some came out in the comments section of a WA PO article on the topice Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2019 #237
DU (if that's a word) gives him something no other candidate is rzemanfl Feb 2019 #25
Ugh. Squinch Feb 2019 #26
Here's 4 Happyhippychick Feb 2019 #27
Bollocks Soph0571 Feb 2019 #28
Yes indeed, he is the dog's bollocks!! WoonTars Feb 2019 #350
Lol Soph0571 Feb 2019 #358
Meh. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2019 #30
Gadfly. revmclaren Feb 2019 #31
rollseyes Demit Feb 2019 #32
Nausea crazytown Feb 2019 #33
+1 grantcart Feb 2019 #132
Excellent Voltaire2 Feb 2019 #34
NO! Rebl2 Feb 2019 #36
Yahoo shanny Feb 2019 #38
Trumpwins apcalc Feb 2019 #39
GAWD! True Dough Feb 2019 #53
Bernedout. 2naSalit Feb 2019 #40
Best answer. Me, too.. LakeArenal Feb 2019 #102
You got it. GoneOffShore Feb 2019 #317
Donuts! brooklynite Feb 2019 #41
Carbohydrates True Dough Feb 2019 #56
Sexism backabby-blue Feb 2019 #42
Don't samplegirl Feb 2019 #43
Afraid LongtimeAZDem Feb 2019 #44
Is "UGG" a word? Or an utterance? Either way that is my opinion titaniumsalute Feb 2019 #45
I believe it's True Dough Feb 2019 #58
Suspicious... ecstatic Feb 2019 #46
I am starting to feel that way as well exboyfil Feb 2019 #81
Is there any difference between the NRA and Russia anymore? Maru Kitteh Feb 2019 #88
+1, The Russians officially help him in the primaries last time and he wont release uponit7771 Feb 2019 #218
******* still_one Feb 2019 #47
+1 oasis Feb 2019 #314
Welcomeing-all California_Republic Feb 2019 #48
It was a long read True Dough Feb 2019 #65
My apologies true It did drag on in a bit. 😀 California_Republic Feb 2019 #121
Trust. ( after more thought) California_Republic Feb 2019 #131
Disgusted /nt romana Feb 2019 #50
NOT! democratisphere Feb 2019 #51
Yes....! mikeysnot Feb 2019 #52
Disgusted Chemisse Feb 2019 #54
Whelp KansasKali Feb 2019 #55
Irritated LonePirate Feb 2019 #57
Awesome... disillusioned73 Feb 2019 #59
Ambivalent. Moostache Feb 2019 #60
+1 happybird Feb 2019 #76
Fantastic! jalan48 Feb 2019 #61
Ugh. nt ginnyinWI Feb 2019 #63
suspicious Evergreen Emerald Feb 2019 #64
Motivated Shrek Feb 2019 #66
Disappointed CaptainTruth Feb 2019 #69
Welcome! aikoaiko Feb 2019 #70
pathetic mulsh Feb 2019 #71
+1nt Phoenix61 Feb 2019 #77
Pass tammywammy Feb 2019 #72
Ambivalent. LAS14 Feb 2019 #74
Fine. n/t Tom Rinaldo Feb 2019 #78
Good The Blue Flower Feb 2019 #79
Barf redstateblues Feb 2019 #80
Okay zipplewrath Feb 2019 #82
Bored. OregonBlue Feb 2019 #83
Bring lapucelle Feb 2019 #84
it lapucelle Feb 2019 #85
on. lapucelle Feb 2019 #87
Creative end-run around the only rule in this thread! True Dough Feb 2019 #95
... lapucelle Feb 2019 #137
Punxsutawney underpants Feb 2019 #86
LOL! Squinch Feb 2019 #155
Fingerwag. riverine Feb 2019 #89
Flyinglipspittle? Maru Kitteh Feb 2019 #112
Meh. (n/t) Spider Jerusalem Feb 2019 #90
Post removed Post removed Feb 2019 #91
Nauseous comradebillyboy Feb 2019 #92
Democracy G_j Feb 2019 #93
UGH!!!!!!!! jrthin Feb 2019 #94
F**k AirmensMom Feb 2019 #96
stinks Rene Feb 2019 #97
Apprehensive Blue_Tires Feb 2019 #98
case in point: Blue_Tires Feb 2019 #232
Counterproductive JHB Feb 2019 #99
Aggravated. missingthebigdog Feb 2019 #100
Why? dalton99a Feb 2019 #101
excited. Joe941 Feb 2019 #103
Disgusted Tribalceltic Feb 2019 #104
No. MontanaMama Feb 2019 #105
Approval. CentralMass Feb 2019 #106
Beto Gothmog Feb 2019 #107
I sure hope he runs dalton99a Feb 2019 #134
Revultion. gibraltar72 Feb 2019 #109
Distraction. Gidney N Cloyd Feb 2019 #110
Feh Odoreida Feb 2019 #111
YAWN! cornball 24 Feb 2019 #113
Yawn and bored. Polly Hennessey Feb 2019 #115
over MrGrieves Feb 2019 #116
Laughable. cwydro Feb 2019 #117
bernie pamdb Feb 2019 #118
NoMoreBS honest.abe Feb 2019 #119
uninterested ebbie15644 Feb 2019 #120
Frightened. Hortensis Feb 2019 #122
used agingdem Feb 2019 #124
GREAT! rgbecker Feb 2019 #125
Good. David__77 Feb 2019 #126
Disgust YessirAtsaFact Feb 2019 #127
MEH! snowybirdie Feb 2019 #128
Depressed Shrike47 Feb 2019 #129
Enough windje Feb 2019 #130
Skeptical Stare Decisis Feb 2019 #133
Ugh. W_HAMILTON Feb 2019 #136
WHY??? SaveOurDemocracy Feb 2019 #138
disgusted lunamagica Feb 2019 #140
Meh. backscatter712 Feb 2019 #142
Delighted. milestogo Feb 2019 #144
Meh Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2019 #145
Ughhh!!! Thekaspervote Feb 2019 #146
NO!! aeromanKC Feb 2019 #147
Misguided. NT WeekiWater Feb 2019 #148
Narcissist. SCRUBDASHRUB Feb 2019 #149
Fatigued. VOX Feb 2019 #152
Whoopie... /s GemDigger Feb 2019 #153
Unhappy, now that the Bernie-bros will probably come back sakabatou Feb 2019 #154
Hey! Check this out! in this thread, there are really only 3 or 4 pro-BS posters, and ALMOST ALL Squinch Feb 2019 #156
sad LEW Feb 2019 #158
no n/t snpsmom Feb 2019 #159
Good Tiggeroshii Feb 2019 #161
Do the primaries have an ignore button? n/t DFW Feb 2019 #162
yes Tiggeroshii Feb 2019 #163
Ohnonotagain!!!!!!!!!!!!! FakeNoose Feb 2019 #164
Nader (as in Ralph) Basic LA Feb 2019 #165
Yeeeech. GoCubsGo Feb 2019 #166
Sigh WheelWalker Feb 2019 #168
Anachronistic MurrayDelph Feb 2019 #169
Numb lilactime Feb 2019 #171
Opposed. nt intheozone Feb 2019 #172
Indifferent Desert grandma Feb 2019 #173
Ugh! sarcasmo Feb 2019 #174
This message was self-deleted by its author Apollyonus Feb 2019 #175
Inspired!! Power 2 the People Feb 2019 #177
Compromat OhZone Feb 2019 #178
Verklempt! Dyedinthewoolliberal Feb 2019 #179
Spoiler. Skidmore Feb 2019 #180
Pleased. lagomorph777 Feb 2019 #183
No. nt frogmarch Feb 2019 #184
non-democrat beachbum bob Feb 2019 #186
Delighted Kentonio Feb 2019 #187
Okay. KPN Feb 2019 #188
Delighted Devil Child Feb 2019 #189
Repelled. DavidDvorkin Feb 2019 #190
Sad theophilus Feb 2019 #191
Scrumtrulescent! nt Guy Whitey Corngood Feb 2019 #192
Trolled. Kingofalldems Feb 2019 #193
Happy ZeroSomeBrains Feb 2019 #194
Cool Peachhead22 Feb 2019 #195
Philadelphia Gothmog Feb 2019 #196
Disgusted. AkFemDem Feb 2019 #197
Exasperated ProudLib72 Feb 2019 #198
Well, the spectrum of emotions is pretty well represented above True Dough Feb 2019 #199
If emotions ranging from "meh" to "disgusted" can be called a gamut frazzled Feb 2019 #223
I wasn't claiming that the majority are backing Bernie True Dough Feb 2019 #225
Done Bev54 Feb 2019 #200
Shitstorm java108 Feb 2019 #201
independent yortsed snacilbuper Feb 2019 #202
Meh Loki Liesmith Feb 2019 #203
Gross blackdove78 Feb 2019 #204
Pathetic Runningdawg Feb 2019 #205
Yes! Delmette2.0 Feb 2019 #206
Disgusted leftynyc Feb 2019 #208
Disgusted. nt CherokeeDem Feb 2019 #209
Whatever nt TJKay Feb 2019 #210
Doh! LuvLoogie Feb 2019 #211
unsurprised fishwax Feb 2019 #212
Disgusted! allgood33 Feb 2019 #213
Enuff! Lucid Dreamer Feb 2019 #214
Apathy Panich52 Feb 2019 #215
One photo that sums up how I feel about his announcement: CrossingTheRubicon Feb 2019 #217
Woo hoo! nt Kahuna7 Feb 2019 #258
Cool SammyWinstonJack Feb 2019 #221
Excited! Puzzledtraveller Feb 2019 #222
PISSED.... LovingA2andMI Feb 2019 #224
EGO PubliusEnigma Feb 2019 #226
Nervous. Vinca Feb 2019 #227
Good. eom guillaumeb Feb 2019 #228
Just a money maker for him... wcmagumba Feb 2019 #229
Fine elleng Feb 2019 #230
Ambivalent MaryMagdaline Feb 2019 #235
Don't. BigDemVoter Feb 2019 #236
Fan mvd Feb 2019 #238
Loser Sugarcoated Feb 2019 #239
Expected Yosemito Feb 2019 #241
Didn't want to seem unoriginal, but... Different Drummer Feb 2019 #243
Running out of original options at this point True Dough Feb 2019 #244
Untruthful Books_Tea_Alone Feb 2019 #247
Fine. I will say I truly doubt he'll be successful this time around Arazi Feb 2019 #248
Establishment betsuni Feb 2019 #249
lol Cha Feb 2019 #252
You're opposed to negativity True Dough Feb 2019 #262
Hey man, I'm not the one going around calling everyone ideologically bankrupt elites. betsuni Feb 2019 #266
Fair enough True Dough Feb 2019 #281
No, what I receive are boring lies and personal attacks and what I gave back are betsuni Feb 2019 #322
Okay ProfessorGAC Feb 2019 #251
Well, True Dough Feb 2019 #263
And I Consider That Problematic ProfessorGAC Feb 2019 #315
Most definitely True Dough Feb 2019 #319
Predictable standingtall Feb 2019 #254
Elated!! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2019 #255
Ugh. Kahuna7 Feb 2019 #256
Noooooooooooooo! n/t wryter2000 Feb 2019 #257
Blah. Glimmer of Hope Feb 2019 #259
Vomit awesomerwb1 Feb 2019 #260
Disappointed Freethinker65 Feb 2019 #261
The more the merrier! Zen Democrat Feb 2019 #265
Putin Clash City Rocker Feb 2019 #267
LOSER Historic NY Feb 2019 #268
HOORAY Doremus Feb 2019 #269
Go ahead DeminPennswoods Feb 2019 #270
Disdainful blitzen Feb 2019 #271
Meh Metatron Feb 2019 #274
Annoyed DarthDem Feb 2019 #277
Nope. peacefreak2.0 Feb 2019 #278
Scram!! polmaven Feb 2019 #279
NTSA R B Garr Feb 2019 #280
I'm gonna take a crack at it True Dough Feb 2019 #284
Yes! R B Garr Feb 2019 #291
re-elected nt doc03 Feb 2019 #286
GoAway nt Apollyonus Feb 2019 #288
Aardvark lamp_shade Feb 2019 #290
Divider. tavernier Feb 2019 #292
Welcome pampango Feb 2019 #293
Fuck vercetti2021 Feb 2019 #294
lol Cha Feb 2019 #308
Bloviator ploppy Feb 2019 #296
Pfffft..nt SidDithers Feb 2019 #298
Disgusted. highplainsdem Feb 2019 #300
Below in Franglais: sprinkleeninow Feb 2019 #301
Dreadful RandySF Feb 2019 #302
Drama egduj Feb 2019 #303
Sad. akraven Feb 2019 #304
wasted Demonaut Feb 2019 #306
Withdraw. roamer65 Feb 2019 #307
scared Demovictory9 Feb 2019 #309
Pavlovian Celerity Feb 2019 #310
Happy garybeck Feb 2019 #311
How can he run as a Democrat if he isnt one??? n/t scardycat Feb 2019 #312
Fine workinclasszero Feb 2019 #313
President Trump MyNameGoesHere Feb 2019 #316
Fine ananda Feb 2019 #318
pleased scarytomcat Feb 2019 #320
Sad. Nt BootinUp Feb 2019 #326
Unconcerned lark Feb 2019 #327
Happy. Autumn Feb 2019 #328
Divisive. Cha Feb 2019 #329
fuck. librechik Feb 2019 #330
ugh GitRDun Feb 2019 #331
Concerned PBC_Democrat Feb 2019 #332
Notademocrat jiminvegas Feb 2019 #335
Further analysis True Dough Feb 2019 #341
Meh SKKY Feb 2019 #336
Barney the Dinosaur versus Trump would be quite a spectacle! True Dough Feb 2019 #342
Traitor Doodley Feb 2019 #337
Angry. Demsrule86 Feb 2019 #338
Democratic Sucha NastyWoman Feb 2019 #339
This message was self-deleted by its author lillypaddle Feb 2019 #343
Sick lillypaddle Feb 2019 #344
You felt so strongly about it True Dough Feb 2019 #345
OOPSIE! lillypaddle Feb 2019 #360
Loser TexasBlueDog Feb 2019 #346
How about Michelle AND Oprah True Dough Feb 2019 #347
Geez. Sparkly Feb 2019 #348
Elated! WoonTars Feb 2019 #349
I'll Play... sacto95834 Feb 2019 #351
Meh Politicub Feb 2019 #352
Hypervigilant. Anon-C Feb 2019 #353
Indifferent Midwestern Democrat Feb 2019 #354
Sigh Peacetrain Feb 2019 #355
Joyful roody Feb 2019 #356
Fine. AncientGeezer Feb 2019 #361
Annoyed. Ilsa Feb 2019 #363
Locking Skinner Feb 2019 #367

samnsara

(17,604 posts)
1. AGAIN????
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:10 AM
Feb 2019

brush

(53,726 posts)
359. Eclipsed.
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 01:02 PM
Feb 2019

tazkcmo

(7,300 posts)
2. Yawn n/t
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:10 AM
Feb 2019

WillowTree

(5,325 posts)
73. You beat me to it.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:55 AM
Feb 2019

Response to True Dough (Original post)

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
4. Post one word that best describes how you feel about Bernie Sanders entering the 2020 race
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:11 AM
Feb 2019

disappointed

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,304 posts)
5. Bored.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:12 AM
Feb 2019

trueblue2007

(17,187 posts)
253. Bozo
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 05:46 PM
Feb 2019

DFW

(54,268 posts)
275. Hey! Them's fightin' words!
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 06:30 PM
Feb 2019

One of my good friends was named Božo. He was a kind, extremely gifted artisan who made the most incredible 12 string guitars on earth. He was originally from Novi Sad in Serbia, where that is a common first name. He passed away a couple of years ago, unfortunately, but he had exactly ZERO in common with Mr. Sanders!

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UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
6. Divisive. nt
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:12 AM
Feb 2019

True Dough

(17,246 posts)
15. That was definitely my #2 pick!
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:15 AM
Feb 2019

I wish Bernie's presence wasn't so divisive but it is what it is.

Cha

(296,771 posts)
250. Hey, that's my
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 05:45 PM
Feb 2019

word!

honest.abe

(8,610 posts)
7. Puke.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:12 AM
Feb 2019

treestar

(82,383 posts)
8. annoyed
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:12 AM
Feb 2019

imagine the shrieking if Hillary did that. What about the call for "new blood?"

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
220. Exactly!
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 02:29 PM
Feb 2019

The VERY SAME PEOPLE who say Hillary had better not run (or else!) because of her age/we need new blood, etc. are salivating about a Sanders run. I will NEVER vote for him, and I feel confident saying that since he has no chance in the primary.

My one word answer: Yechhhh

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
9. Depressed.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:13 AM
Feb 2019

That man has no self-reflexivity and has no idea (or does not care) why people like me are upset with him.

I have the feeling we're about to get 4 more years of Trump, as we rip ourselves apart for the sake of a man who holds the Democratic party in disdain.

Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
10. Happy.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:13 AM
Feb 2019

His voice is important and his message should resonate with all Liberals and Progressives.

SammyWinstonJack

(44,129 posts)
219. +1000000.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 02:28 PM
Feb 2019

roody

(10,849 posts)
357. +6,000,000
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 12:43 PM
Feb 2019

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,697 posts)
11. Bewildered.....
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:14 AM
Feb 2019
 

CrossingTheRubicon

(731 posts)
12. Unhappy
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:14 AM
Feb 2019
 

janterry

(4,429 posts)
13. Excellent
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:15 AM
Feb 2019

the more the merrier. He'll drive the convo left, and that's fine by me.

We spent some time with him last Saturday (my daughter was a finalist in the Bernie Sanders State of the Union contest for high school students in VT.

He was lovely.

Johnny2X2X

(18,967 posts)
14. Happy
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:15 AM
Feb 2019

Drives our party to the left where it needs to be. Offers working people something.

MrsCoffee

(5,801 posts)
29. Yeah, cuz no other Dem candidates offer working people anything...
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:25 AM
Feb 2019


I can’t believe people are falling for this shit again.

Squinch

(50,901 posts)
35. Only Bernie does. And he does it by SPEAKING OUT! Because his occasional conversations
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:29 AM
Feb 2019

to reporters are MAGIC! And they really make things happen. No, really.

Maru Kitteh

(28,313 posts)
114. And birds landing on podiums is MAGICAL and A SIGN!
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 11:31 AM
Feb 2019

It's THE UNIVERSE, DUDE.



 

Apollyonus

(812 posts)
182. ANd the Pope ambush nt
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 12:56 PM
Feb 2019

Grasswire2

(13,565 posts)
305. That it was. I was there.
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 02:35 AM
Feb 2019

The 12,000 people in the arena went silent for a moment, and then there was pandemonium. It was a really cool moment in American politics.

 

Apollyonus

(812 posts)
181. lol
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 12:55 PM
Feb 2019

You didn't even need the smiley ... bravo

 

allgood33

(1,584 posts)
216. Yeah, that worked out so well for us in 2016.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 02:27 PM
Feb 2019

Voltaire2

(12,939 posts)
37. On healthcare alone he has transformed
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:30 AM
Feb 2019

the conversation.

Yes other candidates are talking Medicare for all, but that is because of Sanders 2016 campaign.

Johnny2X2X

(18,967 posts)
49. He was talking that for a decade or more
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:38 AM
Feb 2019

Also has been talking about a living wage for decades, free college for decades, and getting the rich to pay their fair share. Bernie has a great message.

Why shouldn't he run?

lapucelle

(18,186 posts)
62. Democrat John Conyers introduced his Medicare for All bill HR 676 for the first time in 2002.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:46 AM
Feb 2019

Democratic representative Conyers introduced it in every session up to and including the 115th Congress. (It was re-introduced in this session as well.) Even BS was a co-sponsor (although not an original) of Conyers's ground-breaking legislation in 2002.

It's time to stop perpetuating false narratives.

Universal coverage has been a core Democratic Party value since 1992.

Democrats have introduced Medicare for All legislation (with robust co-sponsorship and support) in every session of Congress for the past 17 years.

http://www.medicareforall.org/pages/HR676

MrsCoffee

(5,801 posts)
67. Exactly.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:51 AM
Feb 2019

Get ready for another frantic spin cycle.

lapucelle

(18,186 posts)
75. Every new generation of teenagers is convinced that they invented sex. And they are oh so wrong!
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:56 AM
Feb 2019
 

irresistable

(989 posts)
123. And almost no one was aware of that. because no candidate made it a centerpiece of their campaign
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 11:44 AM
Feb 2019

Only Bernie brought it into the foreground, and now everybody is talking about it.

lapucelle

(18,186 posts)
135. Democrats and activists were aware of it.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 12:00 PM
Feb 2019

It's amazing how many people say "nobody knew about it" when they really mean "I didn't know about it".

Present company exclused, of course.

 

irresistable

(989 posts)
139. Democrats in general were NOT aware of it.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 12:04 PM
Feb 2019

Which means that it would NEVER happen.

And many centrist Democrats still are opposed to it.

Bernie POPULARIZED it. Now we are having a conversation about it.

lapucelle

(18,186 posts)
141. Democrats in general were certainly aware of it, although new voters, political neophytes,
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 12:12 PM
Feb 2019

and non-Democrats may not have been.

 

irresistable

(989 posts)
150. No one was making an effective public case for it.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 12:20 PM
Feb 2019

Which is why it was not being broadly discussed.



lapucelle

(18,186 posts)
157. Conyers made an effective public case for 15 years, and it was being broadly discussed
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 12:28 PM
Feb 2019

(although perhaps not on facebook and reddit).

"People I know didn't know about it, therefore it didn't exist" is not a cogent argument.

 

irresistable

(989 posts)
160. It was so "effective" that a public option was not included in Obamacare.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 12:31 PM
Feb 2019

After Bernie, multiple Democrats have signed on to Medicare for all.

lapucelle

(18,186 posts)
170. Politicians who made glib promises caved in 2009.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 12:47 PM
Feb 2019

It's a pity that politicians who stubbornly wanted it all "NOW, NOW, NOW" failed to support Democratic proposals back in 1993-1994.

We probably would have had universal coverage through a single payer system by now, just like we have a $15 an hour minimum wage and free state university tuition here in NYS under "incrementalist" Democratic governor Andrew Cuomo.




 

irresistable

(989 posts)
176. Those two events in NYS happened after Bernie popularized those ideas nationwide.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 12:53 PM
Feb 2019

That is why we need people like Bernie and AOC to push the boundaries with a loud voice. Less bold politicians will then come on board.

lapucelle

(18,186 posts)
233. The legislation was well in the works long before BS was on the scene.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 03:38 PM
Feb 2019

The bill was drafted in 2015 and Cuomo signed the legislation in April 2016. There was a three year phase-in period that was completed in NYC in 2018.

Damn those incrementalists!

And, even if that were not true, post hoc ergo propter hoc is fallacious reasoning at its most egregious. It appears that it takes actual hard work, negotiation, and compromise to actually get the big things done.





 

irresistable

(989 posts)
234. Bernie proposed the $ 15 minimum wage in the Senate July 2015 and was campaigning on it...
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 03:59 PM
Feb 2019

and rising in the polls. Cuomo proposed it in Sept 2015.

Bernie ran on Medicare for all, and now many Democrats are on board.

I realize that you cannot bear to give Bernie credit for his leadership on this issue.

lapucelle

(18,186 posts)
242. How did BS do with his federal proposal? What was the bill number? Can you link to the legislation
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 05:12 PM
Feb 2019

he wrote and passed?

According to you, BS had a 6 month head start on Democrat Andrew Cuomo. Cuomo succeeded where others either failed or talked a lot and did nothing.

I like leaders who work hard and actually get things done.





 

irresistable

(989 posts)
273. 15 bucks an hour is becoming the new standard thanks to Bernie...
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 06:25 PM
Feb 2019

Ask Jeff Bezos.

lapucelle

(18,186 posts)
276. The Amazon workers lost benefits when their minimum wage was raised.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 06:34 PM
Feb 2019

That's why we need savvy, serious experts working on policy, sitting at the negotiating table, and actually fighting for workers rather than those easily played and overly concerned with generating good publicity for their personal brand rather than a good deal for labor.

 

irresistable

(989 posts)
282. They still have good benefits.....
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 06:43 PM
Feb 2019

...and part-timers who don't have benefits have a much higher salary.

Where I live, part timers who don't have benefits went from 11.50 to 15.00 per hour.

Other employers in my area have been forced to raise wages in order to compete.

lapucelle

(18,186 posts)
285. It was a zero sum game. What they gained in salary, they lost in benefits.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 06:50 PM
Feb 2019

That's like saying, "Well, the people of Vermont still have a good minimum wage" even though it's not $15 an hour, and the governor who vetoed a raise was re-elected in November.

In NYS, our Democratic governor actually got it done, despite a divided legislature and the ridiculous accusations of "incrementalism".

 

irresistable

(989 posts)
287. Not for the part-timers....and not for all of the people who have higher wages at other companies...
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 06:59 PM
Feb 2019

because of the competition.

The people who were complaining at Amazon did so because the new people were getting more, not because they were getting less.

lapucelle

(18,186 posts)
289. I'm sure you read that somewhere, but really, "the people who were complaining at Amazon did so
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 07:11 PM
Feb 2019

because the new people were getting more, not because they were getting less" doesn't make any sense.

I have a problem with anyone who foments distrust of and disdain for a system of commerce while still maximizing their own personal profits by advertising, marketing, and distributing their products using that system.

I have neither respect nor trust for career politicians who choose self interest over principle, yet expect others to walk the walk.

 

irresistable

(989 posts)
299. My information is first hand.
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 01:08 AM
Feb 2019

I know multiple people who work at Amazon.

The people that I know who have worked there a while started at 10hr and had worked their way up to 12hr and then suddenly everyone is getting 15. Some, not all, resent that.


I also know people who just started there who love it. Amazon is constantly expanding and they promote from within.

"I have a problem with anyone who foments distrust of and disdain for a system of commerce while still maximizing their own personal profits by advertising, marketing, and distributing their products using that system. "

What the hell is that about?

lapucelle

(18,186 posts)
321. Ah, so your "evidence" is anecdotal and based on "multiple people"
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 08:58 AM
Feb 2019

with whom you are personally acquainted from Amazon's workforce of 500,000+, and their primary complaint concerning wages is that the new people are making too much money too quickly. Got it.

I have a problem with anyone who foments distrust of and disdain for a system of commerce while still maximizing their own personal profits by advertising, marketing, and distributing their products using that system.

is a clear statement written in standard English.

Those who decry the practices of a business entity run the risk of having their integrity questioned when they partner with that entity precisely because those very practices will make them the most money, in the shortest time, with the least effort.

And rightfully so.
 

irresistable

(989 posts)
323. Are you as condescending in the real world as you are online?
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:04 AM
Feb 2019

First, you sneer that my opinions on Amazon "don't make sense" and imagine that I must have "read that somewhere" (which I also have, BTW). Then you also deride my personal experience.

Your opinion apparently flows from your omniscience.

As for your "clear statement", who precisely do you imagine fits that description?



lapucelle

(18,186 posts)
324. Many people find data and empirical evidence more reliable than personal anecdotes
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:31 AM
Feb 2019

in assessing an argument. I am among them.

Similarly, many people fit the description, including (but not limited to) anti-Amazon protestors who hold Amazon Prime accounts and high profile Amazon critics (Donald Trump among them) who peddle their wares via the retail giant in order to more fully line their pockets.

If the shoe fits, wear it, be it a Lobb wingtip, a Doc Marten boot, or the brandless generic sneaker chosen for you by committee.

 

irresistable

(989 posts)
325. So, actual human experiences are of no use to you. You dismiss those out of hand.
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:49 AM
Feb 2019

You view the world from afar.

I am not an Amazon critic. I see them providing opportunity to small business owners and self published authors while pressuring their local competition to raise salaries.

I also believe in keeping pressure on them

lapucelle

(18,186 posts)
333. Wait...what? Actual human experiences are of no use to me?
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 11:10 AM
Feb 2019

Did you really just write that? All because I don't find idiosyncratic anecdotal evidence in support of a dubious claim convincing?

That's a terrible thing to say to or about someone, especially to or about an allied stranger whose only fault was besting you in a debate.

SMH.



 

irresistable

(989 posts)
334. You dismissed my personal experience as irrelevant.
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 11:19 AM
Feb 2019

I am accurately describing your behavior with me.

Since you provided no evidence whatsoever for YOUR position...How exactly did you best me in a debate?

Condescension is a poor debate strategy.







lapucelle

(18,186 posts)
283. I'll take your response to mean, "There was no successful federal proposal, and the governor of VT
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 06:43 PM
Feb 2019

Last edited Tue Feb 19, 2019, 07:23 PM - Edit history (1)

who vetoed a raise in the minimum wage was re-elected in November".

awesomerwb1

(4,264 posts)
264. Do you have the bill number?
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 05:59 PM
Feb 2019

Voltaire2

(12,939 posts)
207. When did Conyers run a national campaign?
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 02:08 PM
Feb 2019

lapucelle

(18,186 posts)
231. Why would that matter? The uninformed are the uninformed, whether it's about
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 03:13 PM
Feb 2019

who is or isn't writing important legislation, who is or isn't missing important votes, or who is or isn't working with the military industrial complex on trillion dollar pork-laden boondoggles that constituents oppose.

Voltaire2

(12,939 posts)
246. Because what Sanders did changed the discussion.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 05:35 PM
Feb 2019

By making Medicare for all the central theme of his national campaign, and by demonstrating that voters were ready to support this sort of major reform, now almost all of the current candidates are promoting something very similar.

Prior to 2016 the current wisdom was that only incremental regulation of the private healthcare system was a viable platform.

lapucelle

(18,186 posts)
272. It wasn't the theme of his national campaign. BS didn't have a senate version of Medicare for All
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 06:19 PM
Feb 2019

ready to introduce when Conyers introduced his house version for the 9th time in January 2017.

The last BS campaign theme primarily concerned the evils of both the millionaire class and established career politicians who talk a lot, make a lot of money for themselves, and get little to nothing done for the people who were unwise enough to trust them.



Voltaire2

(12,939 posts)
295. Lulzd.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 07:43 PM
Feb 2019

lapucelle

(18,186 posts)
297. I always ask myself, "Who does that?"
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 08:33 PM
Feb 2019

Now I know.

Voltaire2

(12,939 posts)
362. When a discussion becomes mindless
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 02:36 PM
Feb 2019

argumentation I Lulzd.

George II

(67,782 posts)
364. John Dingell Sr. introduced his version for the first time in 1943.
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 03:18 PM
Feb 2019

Squinch

(50,901 posts)
68. Yes! He JUMPED on that bandwagon! He did it with CONVICTION!
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:52 AM
Feb 2019

And then he SPOKE OUT about stuff! And LED by signing onto the legislation written by others.

lapucelle

(18,186 posts)
143. .....
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 12:13 PM
Feb 2019
 

Apollyonus

(812 posts)
185. Only ONE Democrat
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 12:59 PM
Feb 2019

has achieved any legislation regarding Health Care. That was President Obama.

Guess who wanted to primary President Obama in 2012 .....

Sugarcoated

(7,716 posts)
240. Look at that beautiful lineup
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 04:34 PM
Feb 2019
 

Apollyonus

(812 posts)
245. smile .. I love the lineup too
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 05:22 PM
Feb 2019

Demsrule86

(68,455 posts)
340. Medicare for all will be used to demonize us...consider polling shows that
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 11:45 AM
Feb 2019

when folks learn they won't get to keep workplace insurance, only 17% support it. A pubic option and improving the ACA is the way to win.

George II

(67,782 posts)
365. Not true. Democrats have been talking about it for more than 75 years.
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 03:19 PM
Feb 2019

Voltaire2

(12,939 posts)
366. A bit late to the party.
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 05:23 PM
Feb 2019

The “wisdom” of party leaders of the 90s and up to the Sanders campaign of 2016 was that “Medicare for All” was too far left and no serious presidential campaign could run on it.

Now almost all the candidates are pushing it.

NRaleighLiberal

(60,006 posts)
16. Meh
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:16 AM
Feb 2019

NatBurner

(2,640 posts)
151. this one
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 12:22 PM
Feb 2019

GoCubsGo

(32,073 posts)
167. Yep.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 12:43 PM
Feb 2019
 

DontBooVote

(901 posts)
17. Auto-trash by keyword. Oh, on edit, ... and trash thread when one slips through the filters.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:17 AM
Feb 2019

Last edited Tue Feb 19, 2019, 11:01 AM - Edit history (2)

mainstreetonce

(4,178 posts)
18. Joe
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:17 AM
Feb 2019

......

Gothmog

(144,884 posts)
108. That was my second choice after Beto
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 11:29 AM
Feb 2019

Kurt V.

(5,624 posts)
19. fine
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:20 AM
Feb 2019

Response to True Dough (Original post)

backtoblue

(11,343 posts)
21. Welcome
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:21 AM
Feb 2019

MrsCoffee

(5,801 posts)
22. Chariness.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:21 AM
Feb 2019

malchickiwick

(1,474 posts)
23. Bemused
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:21 AM
Feb 2019

cally

(21,591 posts)
24. Sexist
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:23 AM
Feb 2019

The bernie bros will come out again with their ignorant sexism

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,710 posts)
237. Looks like some came out in the comments section of a WA PO article on the topice
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 04:25 PM
Feb 2019

rzemanfl

(29,554 posts)
25. DU (if that's a word) gives him something no other candidate is
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:23 AM
Feb 2019

afforded. Think about it. That's all I'm going to say.

Squinch

(50,901 posts)
26. Ugh.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:23 AM
Feb 2019

Happyhippychick

(8,379 posts)
27. Here's 4
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:24 AM
Feb 2019

Ready for a woman

Soph0571

(9,685 posts)
28. Bollocks
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:24 AM
Feb 2019

WoonTars

(694 posts)
350. Yes indeed, he is the dog's bollocks!!
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 12:14 PM
Feb 2019

#FeelTheBern

Soph0571

(9,685 posts)
358. Lol
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 01:00 PM
Feb 2019

Or the dogs breakfast.....

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,576 posts)
30. Meh.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:25 AM
Feb 2019

revmclaren

(2,497 posts)
31. Gadfly.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:26 AM
Feb 2019
ONLY!!! 2019 and beyond.
 

Demit

(11,238 posts)
32. rollseyes
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:26 AM
Feb 2019

:rollseyes:

crazytown

(7,277 posts)
33. Nausea
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:26 AM
Feb 2019

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
132. +1
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 11:57 AM
Feb 2019

Voltaire2

(12,939 posts)
34. Excellent
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:27 AM
Feb 2019

Rebl2

(13,447 posts)
36. NO!
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:29 AM
Feb 2019
 

shanny

(6,709 posts)
38. Yahoo
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:30 AM
Feb 2019

apcalc

(4,462 posts)
39. Trumpwins
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:30 AM
Feb 2019

True Dough

(17,246 posts)
53. GAWD!
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:41 AM
Feb 2019

I sure hope not!!!

2naSalit

(86,307 posts)
40. Bernedout.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:30 AM
Feb 2019

LakeArenal

(28,797 posts)
102. Best answer. Me, too..
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 11:22 AM
Feb 2019

GoneOffShore

(17,336 posts)
317. You got it.
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 06:31 AM
Feb 2019

brooklynite

(94,302 posts)
41. Donuts!
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:31 AM
Feb 2019

I was thinking of going down to the Farmer's market to buy apple cider donuts. Bernie's announcement hasn't changed that.

True Dough

(17,246 posts)
56. Carbohydrates
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:43 AM
Feb 2019

Sugar high!

Enjoy those donuts.

 

backabby-blue

(144 posts)
42. Sexism
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:34 AM
Feb 2019

samplegirl

(11,460 posts)
43. Don't
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:35 AM
Feb 2019

LongtimeAZDem

(4,494 posts)
44. Afraid
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:35 AM
Feb 2019

titaniumsalute

(4,742 posts)
45. Is "UGG" a word? Or an utterance? Either way that is my opinion
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:36 AM
Feb 2019

True Dough

(17,246 posts)
58. I believe it's
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:43 AM
Feb 2019

ugh!

But I get your sentiment.

ecstatic

(32,641 posts)
46. Suspicious...
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:37 AM
Feb 2019

Is he running because he sincerely wants to, or because the NRA or a Russian agent told him to? Look at his voting record with regard to Russia, sanctions, and the NRA.

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
81. I am starting to feel that way as well
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:58 AM
Feb 2019

and I voted for for him in the Iowa caucus the last time.


He is just another stalking horse like Stein and probably him last time.

Maru Kitteh

(28,313 posts)
88. Is there any difference between the NRA and Russia anymore?
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 11:00 AM
Feb 2019

It does smell fishy.

uponit7771

(90,301 posts)
218. +1, The Russians officially help him in the primaries last time and he wont release
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 02:28 PM
Feb 2019

... his .. .FULL ... freakin tax returns.

I don't know why everyone else isn't ... MORE ... suspicious !!!

still_one

(92,060 posts)
47. *******
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:37 AM
Feb 2019

oasis

(49,317 posts)
314. +1
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 05:29 AM
Feb 2019

California_Republic

(1,826 posts)
48. Welcomeing-all
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:37 AM
Feb 2019

Ha. I cheated a bit

True Dough

(17,246 posts)
65. It was a long read
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:47 AM
Feb 2019

but I think we can find it in our hearts to forgive you.

California_Republic

(1,826 posts)
121. My apologies true It did drag on in a bit. 😀
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 11:43 AM
Feb 2019

California_Republic

(1,826 posts)
131. Trust. ( after more thought)
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 11:56 AM
Feb 2019

Trust the process. We will select the best. Anyone can try out.

romana

(765 posts)
50. Disgusted /nt
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:39 AM
Feb 2019

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
51. NOT!
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:40 AM
Feb 2019

mikeysnot

(4,756 posts)
52. Yes....!
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:41 AM
Feb 2019

Chemisse

(30,802 posts)
54. Disgusted
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:41 AM
Feb 2019

KansasKali

(105 posts)
55. Whelp
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:42 AM
Feb 2019

LonePirate

(13,407 posts)
57. Irritated
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:43 AM
Feb 2019
 

disillusioned73

(2,872 posts)
59. Awesome...
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:45 AM
Feb 2019

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
60. Ambivalent.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:45 AM
Feb 2019

The entire cramped field has me getting very nervous that an internal blood bath is going to erupt and leave our candidate wounded and vulnerable to Trump's asinine campaign of name calling and BS.

I have only one concern in 2020 - defeating Donald Trump, period. The reason? If we do not, the SCOTUS will be 7-2 for a generation+ by 2024. The ONLY thing that matters in our primaries is determining who is the best candidate to defeat Trump. Nothing else is even close and yet I see the threads already attacking the same old purity / not good enough with <fill in subset of party here> nonsense.

If we do not recognize the criticality of this time, we will lose, period. We cannot let that happen.

happybird

(4,587 posts)
76. +1
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:56 AM
Feb 2019

jalan48

(13,837 posts)
61. Fantastic!
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:45 AM
Feb 2019

ginnyinWI

(17,276 posts)
63. Ugh. nt
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:46 AM
Feb 2019

Evergreen Emerald

(13,069 posts)
64. suspicious
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:47 AM
Feb 2019

Shrek

(3,975 posts)
66. Motivated
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:50 AM
Feb 2019

CaptainTruth

(6,572 posts)
69. Disappointed
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:52 AM
Feb 2019

aikoaiko

(34,161 posts)
70. Welcome!
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:52 AM
Feb 2019

mulsh

(2,959 posts)
71. pathetic
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:53 AM
Feb 2019

Phoenix61

(16,992 posts)
77. +1nt
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:57 AM
Feb 2019

tammywammy

(26,582 posts)
72. Pass
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:54 AM
Feb 2019

LAS14

(13,769 posts)
74. Ambivalent.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:55 AM
Feb 2019

Tom Rinaldo

(22,911 posts)
78. Fine. n/t
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:57 AM
Feb 2019

The Blue Flower

(5,432 posts)
79. Good
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:57 AM
Feb 2019

nt

redstateblues

(10,565 posts)
80. Barf
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:58 AM
Feb 2019

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
82. Okay
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:59 AM
Feb 2019

I actually think he may be in for a bit of shock. An awful lot of his support was from people who felt like they didn't have alot of other choices and were being taken a bit for granted. That isn't going to be true this time. And it doesn't look like he'll be running just against and HRC type candidate. There will be several "lanes" as we call them today and his may be way more narrow than he realizes.

History has a cruel track record for candidates that want a second swing at the ball. I just hope he is prepared for that.

OregonBlue

(7,753 posts)
83. Bored.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:59 AM
Feb 2019

lapucelle

(18,186 posts)
84. Bring
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:59 AM
Feb 2019

lapucelle

(18,186 posts)
85. it
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:59 AM
Feb 2019

lapucelle

(18,186 posts)
87. on.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 11:00 AM
Feb 2019

True Dough

(17,246 posts)
95. Creative end-run around the only rule in this thread!
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 11:11 AM
Feb 2019

But you get bonus points for creativity!

lapucelle

(18,186 posts)
137. ...
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 12:00 PM
Feb 2019

underpants

(182,585 posts)
86. Punxsutawney
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 11:00 AM
Feb 2019

I just KNEW he has going to see his shadow again this year.

Squinch

(50,901 posts)
155. LOL!
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 12:25 PM
Feb 2019
 

riverine

(516 posts)
89. Fingerwag.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 11:01 AM
Feb 2019

If it is not a word it should be one.

Maru Kitteh

(28,313 posts)
112. Flyinglipspittle?
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 11:30 AM
Feb 2019

It should be a word too, lol.

 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
90. Meh. (n/t)
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 11:02 AM
Feb 2019

Response to True Dough (Original post)

comradebillyboy

(10,128 posts)
92. Nauseous
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 11:05 AM
Feb 2019

G_j

(40,366 posts)
93. Democracy
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 11:07 AM
Feb 2019

jrthin

(4,832 posts)
94. UGH!!!!!!!!
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 11:09 AM
Feb 2019

AirmensMom

(14,637 posts)
96. F**k
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 11:16 AM
Feb 2019

Rene

(1,183 posts)
97. stinks
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 11:16 AM
Feb 2019

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
98. Apprehensive
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 11:17 AM
Feb 2019

Even before he officially announced his nutbar supporters were working overtime on Twitter smearing Beto as a corporatist, Booker as a neoliberal, Warren as a Republican and Harris as a cop who isn't even black and a whore who slept her way into office...

So only God know how much worse the rhetoric will get now that he's officially in the race.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
232. case in point:
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 03:27 PM
Feb 2019

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JHB

(37,152 posts)
99. Counterproductive
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 11:18 AM
Feb 2019

missingthebigdog

(1,233 posts)
100. Aggravated.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 11:20 AM
Feb 2019

dalton99a

(81,386 posts)
101. Why?
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 11:22 AM
Feb 2019
 

Joe941

(2,848 posts)
103. excited.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 11:22 AM
Feb 2019

Tribalceltic

(1,000 posts)
104. Disgusted
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 11:24 AM
Feb 2019

One more Russian backed wannabe.

Worse than that are all the trolls and berniebots this will bring out. This country is not ready to go that far left!

Bernie running will only divide the democrats and make Trump a 2 term president, or Emperor for life!

MontanaMama

(23,294 posts)
105. No.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 11:24 AM
Feb 2019

Please no.

CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
106. Approval.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 11:26 AM
Feb 2019

Gothmog

(144,884 posts)
107. Beto
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 11:28 AM
Feb 2019

dalton99a

(81,386 posts)
134. I sure hope he runs
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 11:59 AM
Feb 2019

Sick of 2016

gibraltar72

(7,498 posts)
109. Revultion.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 11:29 AM
Feb 2019

Gidney N Cloyd

(19,816 posts)
110. Distraction.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 11:30 AM
Feb 2019
 

Odoreida

(1,549 posts)
111. Feh
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 11:30 AM
Feb 2019

cornball 24

(1,474 posts)
113. YAWN!
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 11:30 AM
Feb 2019

Polly Hennessey

(6,783 posts)
115. Yawn and bored.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 11:32 AM
Feb 2019

Sorry, two words and already said by those quicker than me.

 

MrGrieves

(315 posts)
116. over
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 11:33 AM
Feb 2019
 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
117. Laughable.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 11:33 AM
Feb 2019

pamdb

(1,332 posts)
118. bernie
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 11:38 AM
Feb 2019


NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

honest.abe

(8,610 posts)
119. NoMoreBS
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 11:40 AM
Feb 2019

ebbie15644

(1,214 posts)
120. uninterested
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 11:42 AM
Feb 2019

we have excellent democratic candidates

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
122. Frightened.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 11:44 AM
Feb 2019

Not of him directly, of the rise of right-wing nationalism and authoritarianism that his candidacy assisted in 2016 and may again in 2020.

agingdem

(7,804 posts)
124. used
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 11:45 AM
Feb 2019

rgbecker

(4,817 posts)
125. GREAT!
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 11:46 AM
Feb 2019

David__77

(23,311 posts)
126. Good.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 11:46 AM
Feb 2019

...

YessirAtsaFact

(2,064 posts)
127. Disgust
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 11:50 AM
Feb 2019

snowybirdie

(5,219 posts)
128. MEH!
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 11:51 AM
Feb 2019

Shrike47

(6,913 posts)
129. Depressed
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 11:54 AM
Feb 2019

windje

(70 posts)
130. Enough
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 11:55 AM
Feb 2019
 

Stare Decisis

(229 posts)
133. Skeptical
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 11:58 AM
Feb 2019

W_HAMILTON

(7,831 posts)
136. Ugh.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 12:00 PM
Feb 2019

SaveOurDemocracy

(4,400 posts)
138. WHY???
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 12:02 PM
Feb 2019

We have a surplus of great DEMOCRATS running. Wish he'd step out of the limelight and lend his support to our lineup.

So now, I'm rooting for Joe Biden to jump in!

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
140. disgusted
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 12:09 PM
Feb 2019

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
142. Meh.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 12:12 PM
Feb 2019

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
144. Delighted.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 12:14 PM
Feb 2019

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,710 posts)
145. Meh
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 12:14 PM
Feb 2019

He's yesterday's news

Thekaspervote

(32,689 posts)
146. Ughhh!!!
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 12:14 PM
Feb 2019

aeromanKC

(3,322 posts)
147. NO!!
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 12:16 PM
Feb 2019

If two words, HELL NO!!

 

WeekiWater

(3,259 posts)
148. Misguided. NT
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 12:19 PM
Feb 2019

SCRUBDASHRUB

(7,252 posts)
149. Narcissist.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 12:20 PM
Feb 2019

Bernie only cares about burning. He will divide the party again, and we can look forward to another term of Trump.

He just can't help himself. Go the f*** away.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
152. Fatigued.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 12:22 PM
Feb 2019

GemDigger

(4,305 posts)
153. Whoopie... /s
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 12:23 PM
Feb 2019

sakabatou

(42,134 posts)
154. Unhappy, now that the Bernie-bros will probably come back
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 12:25 PM
Feb 2019

Squinch

(50,901 posts)
156. Hey! Check this out! in this thread, there are really only 3 or 4 pro-BS posters, and ALMOST ALL
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 12:27 PM
Feb 2019

of them have names that start with "J".

It means nothing, but it's kind of funny.

LEW

(1,072 posts)
158. sad
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 12:31 PM
Feb 2019

snpsmom

(670 posts)
159. no n/t
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 12:31 PM
Feb 2019
 

Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
161. Good
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 12:34 PM
Feb 2019

DFW

(54,268 posts)
162. Do the primaries have an ignore button? n/t
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 12:35 PM
Feb 2019
 

Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
163. yes
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 12:36 PM
Feb 2019

FakeNoose

(32,555 posts)
164. Ohnonotagain!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 12:37 PM
Feb 2019

That's the best word in my repertoire.

Basic LA

(2,019 posts)
165. Nader (as in Ralph)
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 12:38 PM
Feb 2019

GoCubsGo

(32,073 posts)
166. Yeeeech.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 12:40 PM
Feb 2019

WheelWalker

(8,954 posts)
168. Sigh
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 12:46 PM
Feb 2019

MurrayDelph

(5,291 posts)
169. Anachronistic
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 12:47 PM
Feb 2019

It's no longer his time.

lilactime

(657 posts)
171. Numb
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 12:47 PM
Feb 2019

intheozone

(1,102 posts)
172. Opposed. nt
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 12:51 PM
Feb 2019

Desert grandma

(803 posts)
173. Indifferent
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 12:51 PM
Feb 2019

sarcasmo

(23,968 posts)
174. Ugh!
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 12:52 PM
Feb 2019

Response to True Dough (Original post)

Power 2 the People

(2,437 posts)
177. Inspired!!
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 12:53 PM
Feb 2019

OhZone

(3,212 posts)
178. Compromat
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 12:54 PM
Feb 2019

Dyedinthewoolliberal

(15,543 posts)
179. Verklempt!
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 12:54 PM
Feb 2019

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
180. Spoiler.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 12:54 PM
Feb 2019

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
183. Pleased.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 12:57 PM
Feb 2019

We need plenty of mass on the left to separate the Dems from the Richpublicans.

frogmarch

(12,153 posts)
184. No. nt
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 12:58 PM
Feb 2019
 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
186. non-democrat
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 01:04 PM
Feb 2019

its one word with hyphen

to me not its all ego as 2016 was. Making it easy for GOP to keep the Whitehouse

 

Kentonio

(4,377 posts)
187. Delighted
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 01:04 PM
Feb 2019

KPN

(15,635 posts)
188. Okay.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 01:05 PM
Feb 2019
 

Devil Child

(2,728 posts)
189. Delighted
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 01:15 PM
Feb 2019

DavidDvorkin

(19,465 posts)
190. Repelled.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 01:18 PM
Feb 2019

theophilus

(3,750 posts)
191. Sad
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 01:23 PM
Feb 2019

Guy Whitey Corngood

(26,494 posts)
192. Scrumtrulescent! nt
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 01:25 PM
Feb 2019

Kingofalldems

(38,419 posts)
193. Trolled.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 01:25 PM
Feb 2019

ZeroSomeBrains

(638 posts)
194. Happy
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 01:26 PM
Feb 2019

Peachhead22

(1,077 posts)
195. Cool
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 01:27 PM
Feb 2019

I may not support him this time around. There are so many great people to choose from. But I'm glad he's adding his voice. The more the merrier. A diversity of opinions to pick and choose from only makes us stronger.

Gothmog

(144,884 posts)
196. Philadelphia
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 01:29 PM
Feb 2019

I was a delegate to the national convention and my experience with sanders delegates will affect who I support.

AkFemDem

(1,823 posts)
197. Disgusted.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 01:32 PM
Feb 2019

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
198. Exasperated
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 01:37 PM
Feb 2019

True Dough

(17,246 posts)
199. Well, the spectrum of emotions is pretty well represented above
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 01:54 PM
Feb 2019

It's going to be an interesting journey to the nomination.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
223. If emotions ranging from "meh" to "disgusted" can be called a gamut
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 02:36 PM
Feb 2019

There is a tiny smattering of "delighted"s, but from a scan of the responses, I'd say the gamut is a fairly narrow range, all in the negative territory. The bern seems to have been extinguished, at least on this (perhaps anomalous) discussion forum. Seems like DU is just not that into him anymore.

True Dough

(17,246 posts)
225. I wasn't claiming that the majority are backing Bernie
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 02:48 PM
Feb 2019

I too get the impression that his support here at the DU is diminished compared to 2016. But there's still a substantial number of posters here who are either strongly in his camp or leaning toward more positive than negative. To dismiss it as a non-factor would be premature, I'd say.

Bev54

(10,037 posts)
200. Done
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 01:56 PM
Feb 2019

java108

(129 posts)
201. Shitstorm
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 01:57 PM
Feb 2019

as in, there's a shitstorm every time his name is mentioned here. Just look at today, for example.

yortsed snacilbuper

(7,939 posts)
202. independent
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 01:59 PM
Feb 2019

Loki Liesmith

(4,602 posts)
203. Meh
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 02:00 PM
Feb 2019

blackdove78

(35 posts)
204. Gross
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 02:03 PM
Feb 2019

Runningdawg

(4,509 posts)
205. Pathetic
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 02:05 PM
Feb 2019

Delmette2.0

(4,157 posts)
206. Yes!
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 02:08 PM
Feb 2019
 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
208. Disgusted
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 02:09 PM
Feb 2019

CherokeeDem

(3,709 posts)
209. Disgusted. nt
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 02:09 PM
Feb 2019
 

TJKay

(27 posts)
210. Whatever nt
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 02:21 PM
Feb 2019

LuvLoogie

(6,906 posts)
211. Doh!
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 02:23 PM
Feb 2019

fishwax

(29,148 posts)
212. unsurprised
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 02:24 PM
Feb 2019
 

allgood33

(1,584 posts)
213. Disgusted!
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 02:26 PM
Feb 2019

Lucid Dreamer

(584 posts)
214. Enuff!
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 02:26 PM
Feb 2019

Panich52

(5,829 posts)
215. Apathy
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 02:27 PM
Feb 2019
 

CrossingTheRubicon

(731 posts)
217. One photo that sums up how I feel about his announcement:
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 02:28 PM
Feb 2019

Kahuna7

(2,531 posts)
258. Woo hoo! nt
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 05:49 PM
Feb 2019

SammyWinstonJack

(44,129 posts)
221. Cool
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 02:32 PM
Feb 2019

Beans

Puzzledtraveller

(5,937 posts)
222. Excited!
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 02:32 PM
Feb 2019

If he maintains his positions from 2016, oppose things like TPP, monopolies like Amazon, and oppose open borders which he laid out his opposition to them in a 2015 article now missing from his website which I archived.





LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
224. PISSED....
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 02:42 PM
Feb 2019

PubliusEnigma

(1,583 posts)
226. EGO
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 02:49 PM
Feb 2019

Vinca

(50,236 posts)
227. Nervous.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 02:50 PM
Feb 2019

If he is in the primary running as a Democrat and has no intention of an independent run it's fine by me. If his end game is a third party run if he loses the Democratic primary, then I'm scared to death. Anyone who runs as a third party candidate and is "leftish" will hand the White House to the orange slob for another 4 years (assuming he's not in prison). I doubt Bernie would do that, but we'll still have the Green Party and others to worry about. In any case, as for the Democratic primary, the more the merrier. It will shake out to a preferred candidate eventually and no one should be discouraged from running.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
228. Good. eom
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 02:53 PM
Feb 2019

wcmagumba

(2,879 posts)
229. Just a money maker for him...
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 02:53 PM
Feb 2019

and he could care less for the Dems or if drumph wins again...
russian stooge.... oops, too many words...

elleng

(130,710 posts)
230. Fine
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 02:53 PM
Feb 2019

MaryMagdaline

(6,850 posts)
235. Ambivalent
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 04:00 PM
Feb 2019

BigDemVoter

(4,149 posts)
236. Don't.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 04:09 PM
Feb 2019

mvd

(65,155 posts)
238. Fan
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 04:28 PM
Feb 2019

But his age really is a concern. I kind of prefer he stay in the Senate as much as I like him. And we have other progressive candidates this time.

Sugarcoated

(7,716 posts)
239. Loser
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 04:32 PM
Feb 2019

IOW, not gonna be the Democratic candidate.

 

Yosemito

(648 posts)
241. Expected
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 04:47 PM
Feb 2019

Different Drummer

(7,597 posts)
243. Didn't want to seem unoriginal, but...
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 05:14 PM
Feb 2019

meh.

True Dough

(17,246 posts)
244. Running out of original options at this point
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 05:21 PM
Feb 2019

so don't be too hard on yourself!

Books_Tea_Alone

(253 posts)
247. Untruthful
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 05:39 PM
Feb 2019

Arazi

(6,829 posts)
248. Fine. I will say I truly doubt he'll be successful this time around
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 05:44 PM
Feb 2019

But I think the more the merrier. Let the best candidate win

betsuni

(25,367 posts)
249. Establishment
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 05:45 PM
Feb 2019

We're going to have to see that fucking word every day again. Negativity, insinuations that everyone's corrupt. How can we do this again.

Cha

(296,771 posts)
252. lol
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 05:46 PM
Feb 2019

True Dough

(17,246 posts)
262. You're opposed to negativity
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 05:56 PM
Feb 2019

but what about the tone of your post, betsuni?


betsuni

(25,367 posts)
266. Hey man, I'm not the one going around calling everyone ideologically bankrupt elites.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 06:02 PM
Feb 2019

He started it!

True Dough

(17,246 posts)
281. Fair enough
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 06:43 PM
Feb 2019

Just try to remain the bigger person, all right?

betsuni

(25,367 posts)
322. No, what I receive are boring lies and personal attacks and what I gave back are
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 09:08 AM
Feb 2019

facts and sarcasm based on the bullshit I am dished out.

ProfessorGAC

(64,827 posts)
251. Okay
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 05:46 PM
Feb 2019

But at this point in time, who cares?

True Dough

(17,246 posts)
263. Well,
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 05:58 PM
Feb 2019

200+ posts into this thread -- and with MANY other Bernie-themed threads created here on the DU today -- it seems that a lot of people still care, one way or the other.

ProfessorGAC

(64,827 posts)
315. And I Consider That Problematic
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 05:59 AM
Feb 2019

True Dough

(17,246 posts)
319. Most definitely
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 07:22 AM
Feb 2019

Bernie is such a polarizing figure. You'd think he'd see that and step back for the good of the party, but he's not a member of the party, is he?

Some people have pointed out, rightly, I think, that Bernie's "radical" positions from 2016 are now mostly mainstream ideas. He put them on the agenda and deserves credit for that.

He also raised a big pile of money immediately after declaring his candidacy yesterday.

Despite that, he'll never be president, IMO.

standingtall

(2,785 posts)
254. Predictable
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 05:47 PM
Feb 2019

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,121 posts)
255. Elated!!
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 05:47 PM
Feb 2019

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!

Kahuna7

(2,531 posts)
256. Ugh.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 05:48 PM
Feb 2019

wryter2000

(46,023 posts)
257. Noooooooooooooo! n/t
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 05:48 PM
Feb 2019

n/t

Glimmer of Hope

(5,823 posts)
259. Blah.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 05:53 PM
Feb 2019

awesomerwb1

(4,264 posts)
260. Vomit
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 05:55 PM
Feb 2019

Freethinker65

(9,998 posts)
261. Disappointed
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 05:56 PM
Feb 2019

Zen Democrat

(5,901 posts)
265. The more the merrier!
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 06:00 PM
Feb 2019

Clash City Rocker

(3,385 posts)
267. Putin
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 06:03 PM
Feb 2019

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
268. LOSER
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 06:04 PM
Feb 2019

Doremus

(7,261 posts)
269. HOORAY
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 06:06 PM
Feb 2019

DeminPennswoods

(15,265 posts)
270. Go ahead
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 06:07 PM
Feb 2019

I don't think he should be able to use the Democratic Party for his ambitions, though. He can't just decide to be a registered Democrat when it's convenient for things like being on the debate stage or easy access to a ballot line in every state.

blitzen

(4,572 posts)
271. Disdainful
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 06:12 PM
Feb 2019

Metatron

(1,258 posts)
274. Meh
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 06:28 PM
Feb 2019

DarthDem

(5,255 posts)
277. Annoyed
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 06:34 PM
Feb 2019

But I don't think it will matter. I hope not.

peacefreak2.0

(1,023 posts)
278. Nope.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 06:35 PM
Feb 2019

polmaven

(9,463 posts)
279. Scram!!
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 06:40 PM
Feb 2019

R B Garr

(16,950 posts)
280. NTSA
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 06:42 PM
Feb 2019

An acronym....pretty easy to figure out.

True Dough

(17,246 posts)
284. I'm gonna take a crack at it
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 06:44 PM
Feb 2019
Not This Shit Again!?!

R B Garr

(16,950 posts)
291. Yes!
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 07:32 PM
Feb 2019

doc03

(35,293 posts)
286. re-elected nt
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 06:55 PM
Feb 2019
 

Apollyonus

(812 posts)
288. GoAway nt
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 07:03 PM
Feb 2019

lamp_shade

(14,814 posts)
290. Aardvark
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 07:24 PM
Feb 2019

tavernier

(12,365 posts)
292. Divider.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 07:37 PM
Feb 2019

pampango

(24,692 posts)
293. Welcome
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 07:40 PM
Feb 2019

vercetti2021

(10,155 posts)
294. Fuck
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 07:42 PM
Feb 2019

I learned my lesson buying into BernBro horseshit. Again his flock is already starting to attack the Dems. Repeat of shit from 2016

Cha

(296,771 posts)
308. lol
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 02:41 AM
Feb 2019

you win.

ploppy

(2,162 posts)
296. Bloviator
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 07:53 PM
Feb 2019

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
298. Pfffft..nt
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 09:29 PM
Feb 2019

Sid

highplainsdem

(48,888 posts)
300. Disgusted.
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 01:19 AM
Feb 2019

sprinkleeninow

(20,211 posts)
301. Below in Franglais:
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 01:26 AM
Feb 2019
Blasé.

RandySF

(58,440 posts)
302. Dreadful
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 01:29 AM
Feb 2019

egduj

(805 posts)
303. Drama
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 01:37 AM
Feb 2019

akraven

(1,975 posts)
304. Sad.
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 01:46 AM
Feb 2019

Demonaut

(8,914 posts)
306. wasted
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 02:36 AM
Feb 2019

roamer65

(36,744 posts)
307. Withdraw.
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 02:37 AM
Feb 2019

Demovictory9

(32,419 posts)
309. scared
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 02:41 AM
Feb 2019

Celerity

(43,062 posts)
310. Pavlovian
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 02:59 AM
Feb 2019

garybeck

(9,939 posts)
311. Happy
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 03:30 AM
Feb 2019

His voice is important. Many of his good ideas have been adopted by other candidates.

I doesn't matter who gets the nomination. I will vote for the Democratic candidate no matter who it is.

He did not make Hillary lose. That is just pure bs.

People should stop infighting about this.

We need to really behind the candidate who wins the nomination. Period.

scardycat

(169 posts)
312. How can he run as a Democrat if he isnt one??? n/t
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 04:58 AM
Feb 2019
 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
313. Fine
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 05:14 AM
Feb 2019
 

MyNameGoesHere

(7,638 posts)
316. President Trump
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 06:18 AM
Feb 2019

Yeah that's two words but that is what's going to happen.

ananda

(28,831 posts)
318. Fine
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 06:37 AM
Feb 2019

No problem

scarytomcat

(1,706 posts)
320. pleased
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 07:31 AM
Feb 2019

he brings many things to the table
i want to hear what he has to say

BootinUp

(47,053 posts)
326. Sad. Nt
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:54 AM
Feb 2019

lark

(23,059 posts)
327. Unconcerned
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:56 AM
Feb 2019

The left wing of the Democratic party is well represented without him. Dislike that PUtin and drumpf will use him to hurt the party, but think the other contenders are so strong he won't set the agenda this time around.

Autumn

(44,972 posts)
328. Happy.
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:57 AM
Feb 2019

Cha

(296,771 posts)
329. Divisive.
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:58 AM
Feb 2019

librechik

(30,673 posts)
330. fuck.
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 11:01 AM
Feb 2019

GitRDun

(1,846 posts)
331. ugh
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 11:05 AM
Feb 2019

PBC_Democrat

(401 posts)
332. Concerned
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 11:08 AM
Feb 2019

worried that we will devolve into a race to the far-far left and lose the center of the electorate0

jiminvegas

(104 posts)
335. Notademocrat
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 11:24 AM
Feb 2019

True Dough

(17,246 posts)
341. Further analysis
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 11:46 AM
Feb 2019

indicates your reply to this thread is three words disguised as one. Jiminvegas, you're better than that!

SKKY

(11,791 posts)
336. Meh
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 11:26 AM
Feb 2019

But as I said earlier, whether it's Bernie Sanders or Barney the Dinosaur, I'm 100% "all in" for whoever the Democratic candidate is.

True Dough

(17,246 posts)
342. Barney the Dinosaur versus Trump would be quite a spectacle!
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 11:48 AM
Feb 2019

A real "love overcomes hate" story...


Doodley

(9,033 posts)
337. Traitor
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 11:40 AM
Feb 2019

Demsrule86

(68,455 posts)
338. Angry.
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 11:42 AM
Feb 2019

Sucha NastyWoman

(2,740 posts)
339. Democratic
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 11:43 AM
Feb 2019

Even though I probably won’t vote for him in the primaries.

Response to True Dough (Original post)

lillypaddle

(9,580 posts)
344. Sick
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 11:50 AM
Feb 2019

True Dough

(17,246 posts)
345. You felt so strongly about it
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 11:51 AM
Feb 2019

that you had to post it twice?!?

lillypaddle

(9,580 posts)
360. OOPSIE!
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 01:15 PM
Feb 2019

TexasBlueDog

(43 posts)
346. Loser
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 12:07 PM
Feb 2019

There are only two guaranteed winners against Trump; Michelle or Oprah.

True Dough

(17,246 posts)
347. How about Michelle AND Oprah
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 12:08 PM
Feb 2019

Oprah for V.P.?

Sparkly

(24,147 posts)
348. Geez.
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 12:09 PM
Feb 2019

WoonTars

(694 posts)
349. Elated!
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 12:13 PM
Feb 2019

Finally a REAL progressive is in the race!!

sacto95834

(393 posts)
351. I'll Play...
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 12:15 PM
Feb 2019

Excited.

The quality of candidates is exceptional so far. I feel the more the merrier; I look forward to hearing ideas from our candidates and evaluating their stance compared to mine.

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
352. Meh
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 12:15 PM
Feb 2019

Anon-C

(3,430 posts)
353. Hypervigilant.
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 12:17 PM
Feb 2019
354. Indifferent
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 12:19 PM
Feb 2019

Peacetrain

(22,872 posts)
355. Sigh
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 12:27 PM
Feb 2019

roody

(10,849 posts)
356. Joyful
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 12:42 PM
Feb 2019
 

AncientGeezer

(2,146 posts)
361. Fine.
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 02:01 PM
Feb 2019

Ilsa

(61,688 posts)
363. Annoyed.
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 03:08 PM
Feb 2019

I gave to his campaign several times in 2016. No more $ from me.

Skinner

(63,645 posts)
367. Locking
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 05:31 PM
Feb 2019

Feel free to continue discussion in the Democratic Primaries forum.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1287

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