Nick Sandmann (Covington student) is suing WaPo for $250 million dollars

[octoberlib]

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The complaint is ridiculous.

NOW COMES NicholasSandmann, by and through his parents and natural guardians, Ted Sandmann and Julie Sandmann, and by and through his counsel, states his Complaint against Defendant, WP Company LLC d/b/a The Washington Post(“the Post”) as follows:INTRODUCTION1.
The Post is a major American daily newspaper published in Washington, D.C. which is credited with inventing the term "McCarthyism" in an editorial cartoon published in 1950.
Depicting buckets of tar, the cartoon made fun of then United States Senator Joseph McCarthy's "tarring" tactics of engaging in smear campaigns and character assassination against citizens whose political views made them targets o f his accusations.
2.In a span of three (3) days in January of this year commencing on January 19, the Post engaged in a modern-day form of McCarthyism by competing with CNN and NBC, among others, to claim leadership of a mainstream and social media mob of bullies which attacked, vilified,and threatened NicholasSandmann(“Nicholas”), an innocent secondary school child.
3.The Post wrongfully targeted and bullied Nicholas because he was the white, Catholic student wearing a red “Make America Great Again” souvenir cap on a school field trip to the January 18 March for Life in Washington, D.C.when he was unexpectedly and suddenly confronted by Nathan Phillips (“Phillips”), a known Native American activist, who beat a drum and sang loudly within inches of his face (“the January 18 incident”) .
4.Nicholas stood quietly and respectfully for several minutes after being targeted and bullied by Phillips and Nicholas’body language remained non-aggressive and passive throughout the incident.

Nicholas is 16-years of age,is 5’9” in height and weighs 115 pounds.
6.The school field trip to the Nation’s capital was the first out-of-state trip Nicholas had ever taken without being with his family.
7.In targeting and bullying Nicholas by falsely accusing him of instigating the January 18 incident, the Post conveyed that Nicholas engaged in acts of racism by“swarming” Phillips,“blocking”his exit away from the students,and otherwise engaging in racist misconduct.
8.The Post ignored basic journalist standards because it wanted to advance its well-known and easily documented,biased agenda against President Donald J. Trump(“the President”)by impugning individuals perceived to be supporters of the President.


etc. https://www.dropbox.com/s/rnio82555v8eiqk/2019-02-19%20Sandmann%20%20vs.%20Washington%20Post%20-%20Complaint.pdf?dl=0

Link to tweet

“The Washington Post ignored basic journalistic standards because it wanted to advance its well-known and easily documented biased agenda against President Donald J. Trump.” Covington student suing WAPO. Go get them Nick. Fake News!


Grifters gonna grift.

[Gothmog]

1. This kid is truly an idiot

[octoberlib]

9. One of Trump's lawyers, Pat Cipollone , went to Covington.

This is probably being encouraged straight from the WH.

[octoberlib]

12. And they even mention Bezos

Sandmann and his attorneys seek $50 million in compensatory damages and $200 million in punitive damages to “teach the Post a lesson it will never forget.” The suit also notes that $250 million is the same amount Amazon founder Jeff Bezos bought the newspaper for in 2013.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/covington-catholic-teen-sues-the-washington-post-for-dollar250-million

[smirkymonkey]

2. Good luck with that, you pathetic little wanker!

Someday, he is going to fuck with the wrong person and he will finally get what he deserves.

[maxsolomon]

29. lovely

can you comment without an implicit threat of violence?

[smirkymonkey]

31. I am not threatening him.

I am just saying that this arrogant little creep is going to piss off the wrong person one day and will regret it. It's only a matter of time. And no, I will not feel sorry for him.

[Haggis for Breakfast]

43. Suggest you seek out a college level course in English Comprehension

to understand HOW to use the word "implicit" appropriately.

[former9thward]

47. It was used correctly and it was a threat.

Of course threats coming from tough guys behind keyboards never mean anything.

[Haggis for Breakfast]

52. No, it was not.

There was NO implied threat coming from the poster. He was making an observation, not a threat.

But, please proceed with the cloak of ignorance you have chosen to embrace.

Grading your post, as I did my students' papers, I must give you a big red "F."

[smirkymonkey]

59. Thank you!

I appreciate your support. I was in no way implying a threat. I was only saying that if the kid keeps on with his behavior that one of these days he will run into someone who will not bear it so gracefully. I can't believe how many people here are defending this little punk.

[Haggis for Breakfast]

71. WORD !!

[smirkymonkey]

62. It was not a threat.

It was a prediction of what will happen to this kid if he keeps up his current behavior and runs up against someone who is not so peaceful. Are you really defending this kid and are you really having that hard a time understanding my previous post? Go back and read it again if you think it was a threat.

[virgogal]

46. The kid didn't fuck with anyone,he just stood there.

[smirkymonkey]

58. Are you actually defending this kid?

Am I on the right website? Did you see the video? Give me a fucking break.

[elias7]

69. That's what I thought...not a popular opinion, though

I watched as many vids as I could and saw that Phillips walked right up into his face. What I thought was an arrogant smirk of a confronter, I realized was the uncomfortable smile of one confronted

[LisaL]

82. Well, exactly.

He wasn't actually doing anything other than standing there. Granted, he was smirking, but a lot of teenagers smirk.
He wasn't a public person at that time either, so I am not so sure he isn't going to get some money out of the lawsuit.

[badhair77]

3. Does he think they will settle rather than going forward with the lawsuit?

[PupCamo]

17. I hope they don't settle

[PJMcK]

76. No settlement

Bezos will probably get the case dismissed. First Amendment rights, for starters.

I'm not a lawyer, but the reading of the complaint doesn't sound like a serious legal mind drafted it.

[SoCalNative]

4. Yeah, good luck with that

ya little pisher

[2naSalit]

5. It's his parents

who seem to be first class grifters.

[octoberlib]

21. Mike Cernovich and Cassandra Fairbanks claimed to be on the phone with Sandmann's mother

after it happened and were tweeting their conversations so the parents seem comfortable with alt-right scumbags.

[Initech]

65. Ugh, Cernovich is such a fucking tool.

No surprise he's involved in this.

[madinmaryland]

6. You can tell the family are teabaggers...

The parents could have gone out and had a reconciliation tour, including the young man meeting Phillips and other native Americans. Instead they go full throttle teabagger and show everyone what they really are.

Teabagging white nationalists.

[912gdm]

28. your sentiment is exactly why they are bringing that suit for a disgusting amount of money.

And why they will win the legal lottery.

I don't agree with it, just playing devil's advocate here

[A-Schwarzenegger]

35. The devil just came out and said this lawsuit

has no chance in hell.

[912gdm]

36. that kid is now a cause celebre

He will never have to earn an honest days wage.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

38. ok, advocate away

[xmas74]

37. No way they win this.

Bezos will not back down and will use this as a lesson for future grifters.

[smirkymonkey]

63. I hope he crushes them.

I can't stand these little Catholic fascists.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

7. Lol. Who wrote that complaint? Rudy Giuliani?

[octoberlib]

11. More from the Daily Beast

According to a press release from the law firm Hemmer, DeFrank, and Wessels, the suit alleges that the Post “ignored basic journalist standards” and waged “malicious attacks” on Sandmann by “falsely accusing him” of instigating the tense standoff with Phillips. The lawsuit claims the Post's coverage “caused permanent damage to [Sandmann's] life and reputation” because the paper “wanted to advance its well-known and easily documented, biased agenda against President Donald J. Trump” by targeting Trump supporters. The suit further claims the newspaper published “False and Defamatory Accusations,” proving itself to be a “loud and aggressive bully with a bully pulpit.” Sandmann and his attorneys seek $50 million in compensatory damages and $200 million in punitive damages to “teach the Post a lesson it will never forget.” The suit also notes that $250 million is the same amount Amazon founder Jeff Bezos bought the newspaper for in 2013.

Two of the lawyers on the suit confirmed to The Daily Beast that they intend to sue more media outlets on behalf of Sandmann and his family. “We are currently evaluating claims against a number of other defendants,” lawyer Todd McMurtry wrote. “I cannot identify any of those potential targets at this time.” Kristine Kelly, VP of Communications at the Post, said the newspaper was “reviewing a copy of the lawsuit and [they] plan to mount a vigorous defense.”


https://www.thedailybeast.com/covington-catholic-teen-sues-the-washington-post-for-dollar250-million

[gratuitous]

8. That got filed in a big hurry, didn't it?

I wonder of the Sandmanns' attorneys explained the discovery process to their clients, and how depositions are conducted?

[former9thward]

48. It is the newspapers who will not want discovery.

The suit will be settled for "an undisclosed amount".

[PTWB]

10. Morons. All they want is a quick payday.

Let’s hope the WaPo doesn’t settle and drags this out for years to drain the little entitled shit of any inheritance he might one day receive.

[renate]

23. aw yiss... I like the way you think!

How perfect would that be!?!

[oasis]

13. Freedom of the press. Snot nosed, nazi parents should read Constitution.

[DFW]

14. The kid and his family must be some kind of optimists

They have more of a chance of moving their house across the street with a slingshot than they do of winning this lawsuit.

[smirkymonkey]

60. +1000

Typical republican victims looking for a payout. They make me sick.

[DFW]

66. That is exactly what it sounds like

Hoping the Post, backed by the Bezos billions, will offer them a couple of million in free money to shut up and go away. But those Bezos billions can pay for a couple of fancy lawyers of his own, and countersue the greedy family for extortion for the next 15 years until their own attorneys' fees bankrupt them.

[Loki Liesmith]

15. Some lawyers want some billable hours

Ain’t no way this case is a winner.

[Lucid Dreamer]

51. Won't be any "billable" hours.

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The lawyers probably took this suit on contingency and will take 30-40% of whatever settlement or award is made. If Case #1 is not a winner there is a probability that there will be weaker respondents in Cases #2 thru xxx.

[at140]

53. My kid who is a lawyer and working on class action suits,

agrees with you. Plaintiffs will sign away a good chunk of reward, if there is any.

[Mr. Frost]

72. Lawyers of Sandmann is doing it pro-bono

[Freethinker65]

16. That moment in the MAGA spotlight has earned the kid tons of publicity. He did not shy away from it.

I have a feeling the family has been instructed to use this moment to their economic advantage while those urging them on are expecting some partisan gain from it all...much like the Kim Davis same sex marriage license woman. The GOP/MAGA backrollers will drop their support when Nicholas is no longer useful to them.

[octoberlib]

19. I think you're right.

[GoCubsGo]

75. Yep, and they're going to wind up like Kim Davis, too.

They'll be the ones stuck with thousands of dollars in court fees when the judge throws out their case, just like what happened to Davis.

[Kurt V.]

18. Enter Sandmann

[guillaumeb]

22. A nice reference. I hope you like this version:

[Kurt V.]

70. that was cool

[True Dough]

27. Exit decency

Sleep with one eye open
Gripping your pillow tight...

[IllinoisBirdWatcher]

20. Are they also suing the Bishop of Covington?

Obviously the Bishop and other leadership in Covington saw the same bad behavior as the Washington Post and so many others.

From the Catholic News Agency (bolding mine):

In their initial response on Saturday, Jan. 19, issued just a few hours after the first video emerged, the Diocese of Covington and Covington Catholic High School released a joint statement condemning the actions of the high school students.

“This behavior is opposed to the Church’s teachings on the dignity and respect of the human person. The matter is being investigated and we will take appropriate action, up to and including expulsion,” they said.

Obviously the Bishop found something he didn't like. Looks as if the Bishop would make a great witness for the defense.

[Dan]

25. I thought that the

Diocese paid for an investigation, the result of which they (Diocese) apologized to the young man and indicated that he was in fact a victim.

[still_one]

33. Do you have a link on the details. Based on other so-called investigations within the church, I

am somewhat skeptical and sure would like to know who these investigators are

[Dan]

39. I am so embarrassed because I don't know how

To do a link from an iPad, but here is the information (until I get access to my PC).

The article was in the Washington Post, February 14, 2019, title: “Investigation finds no evidence of ‘racist or offensive statements’ in Mall Incident. Authors: Frances Stead Sellers and Kevin Williams.

Sorry, about the link....

[still_one]

40. Don't worry about it, i'll Try to Google it, thanks

[Dan]

41. Just insert the title and it works...

Hope it helps

[still_one]

42. Thanks

[still_one]

50. Here is the link from Washington Post you were referring to

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/diocese-reverses-course-clears-covington-catholic-high-school-students-of-wrongdoing-after-investigation-of-viral-incident-on-mall/2019/02/13/c11195f8-2fa7-11e9-8ad3-9a5b113ecd3c_story.html?utm_term=.63db51ef6524

Regardless, they don't have a case to sue the WP. There was no intent to misrepresent what happened, and they reported the events as more became known

[IllinoisBirdWatcher]

44. Yes, I think that was the church's whitewash.

Somehow I found the Bishop's and the school's joint threat of expulsion was a much more severe public humiliation than anything done by the Washington Post and other media outlets.

As linked above, even the Catholic News Agency was having a very hard time trying to spin their later back-peddling.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

24. Fucking ambulance chasers

You don't even get $250 million for a wrongful death.

[TheBlackAdder]

74. Yeah, but this kids was on track to make $30 Million a year, and now that was ruined! :-D

.



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[MFM008]

26. Dismiss this MAGAt

Bitches case.

[WhiteTara]

30. Never pick a fight with people who buy ink

buy the barrel. He's going to wish he had not done that. Can you imagine his deposition? Oh, and the trial? Oh, my.

[at140]

56. Melania recently won a Defamation Lawsuit against The Daily Mail

So even those who buy ink will pay if defamation is proven in court.
Media should always do a thorough investigation before publishing anything which could defame someone.

[octoberlib]

67. England doesn't have free speech laws like the US Completely different circumstances.

British citizens have a negative right to freedom of expression under the common law.[1] In 1998, the United Kingdom incorporated the European Convention into its domestic law under the Human Rights Act. However, there is a broad sweep of exceptions including threatening or abusive words or behaviour intending or likely to cause harassment, alarm or distress or cause a breach of the peace (which has been used to prohibit racist speech targeted at individuals),[2][3][4] sending another any article which is indecent or grossly offensive with an intent to cause distress or anxiety (which has been used to prohibit speech of a racist or anti-religious nature),[5][6][7] incitement,[8] incitement to racial hatred,[9] incitement to religious hatred, incitement to terrorism including encouragement of terrorism and dissemination of terrorist publications,[8][10][11] glorifying terrorism,[12][13] collection or possession of a document or record containing information likely to be of use to a terrorist,[14][15] treason including advocating for the abolition of the monarchy or compassing or imagining the death of the monarch,[16][17][18][19][20] sedition,[17] obscenity,[21] indecency including corruption of public morals and outraging public decency,[22] defamation,[23] prior restraint, restrictions on court reporting including names of victims and evidence and prejudicing or interfering with court proceedings,[24][25] prohibition of post-trial interviews with jurors,[25] time, manner, and place restrictions,[26] harassment, privileged communications, trade secrets, classified material, copyright, patents, military conduct, and limitations on commercial speech such as advertising.

As of 2017, it was estimated that nine people per day were being arrested for online speech in the UK with five leading to convictions


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_in_the_United_Kingdom

[smirkymonkey]

64. +1000

[still_one]

32. Good luck with that, and dthe first ammendment

[TexasBushwhacker]

34. 5'9" and 115 lbs?

I guess they need the money for food.

[VOX]

88. His parents just hang him on a coat hook every night.

Every so often, they pass him through a keyhole for laughs.

[Initech]

45. Well he's definitely a MAGAhole all right!

[Alea]

49. Daily Mail/Malania... just saying

This kid is 16. Also, some of y'all either didn't see or didn't care if you did see, all of the video on this subject.

They will settle imho.

[blue cat]

54. I never understood

How the whole video changes that smirk he had and how he was afraid of a senior citizen with drum.

[octoberlib]

68. Britain doesn't have free speech laws like the US does. Completely different circumstances.

Really hope the Post doesn't settle and drags this lawsuit out for years.

[roamer65]

55. Fuck that stupid shit brat.

[Dawson Leery]

57. Doug Neidermeyer Jr.

This lawyer needs his license pulled.

[Initech]

61. A PLEDGE PIN ON YOUR UNIFORM???

You're all worthless and weak!!!!

[VOX]

90. Otter: "He can't do that do that to our pledges."

Boon: “Only we can do that to our pledges.”

A genuine comedy classic, which is now 41 years old. To put that in perspective, 1978 minus 41 years is 1937!

[Mr. Frost]

73. Don't be too assured of dismissal

Even a smallest percentage of success is a threat. Especially in this current climate.

[democratisphere]

77. Just one more drumpfian style sh't show by drumpf's stupid idiotic followers.

[dewsgirl]

78. I read yesterday (can't remember where) the money backing this, is the

same group that backed Gorsuch and Kavanaugh. I actually thought this was widely circulated, I haven't seen it within this thread.

[Squinch]

79. Good headline. We need his name famous so his actions follow his college applications and future

job applications.

[LisaL]

80. In reality, this kid wasn't doing anything other than standing there.

What exactly makes you think that should affect his college and job applications?

[Squinch]

83. Kay. You keep fighting that fight.

[LisaL]

85. I don't really care one way or the other. Just pointing out the obvious.

Kid didn't confront anybody. He was standing there when approached, and remained standing there.

[Squinch]

87. Rock on, girl.

[crazycatlady]

81. Is Peter Theil paying the legal fees?

[LisaL]

84. Legal fees in those types of lawsuits are usually paid from the money awarded.

Lawyer would get a percentage of the award. No award, no fees.

[crazycatlady]

86. Just wondering if he's behind this as he was Gawker/Hulk Hogan

[VOX]

89. ¡ FRIVOLOUS LAWSUIT !

MAGAt kid’s MAGAt parents get a MAGAt lawyer, all in hopes of a $ettlement.

Pardon me, but fuck ‘em all.

[magicarpet]

91. Nazis being Nazis because they are Fucking Nazis !