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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI unabashedly gave $27 in recurring donation to Bernie this morning
He raised a record number of donations in the first hour since he announced. I Think we have a great group of candidates in the running but Bernie is likely to do a little better than last time.
True Dough
(17,301 posts)Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)virgogal
(10,178 posts)True Dough
(17,301 posts)Shyness, worry, overly critical of self and others...
virgogal
(10,178 posts)Apollyonus
(812 posts)how this propaganda is useful to anyone else?
Many have given donations on this board to other candidates but they don't post it.
Just saying
Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)and many have posted their contributions for the same reason, which I also support.
Apollyonus
(812 posts)Sounded like a coordinated propaganda to me because I have seen several such posts from Bernie supporters but none from the supporters of any of the real Democratic candidates.
My apologies.
aidbo
(2,328 posts)Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)if bernie and kamala are any indication, the democrats are going to.have a behemoth warchest by the time the general kicks off. Im really stoked about that!
The Truth Is Here
(354 posts)Please update your signature to include Bernie. Thank you.
MrsCoffee
(5,801 posts)Apollyonus
(812 posts)He is not a proud Democrat like the people I want to see get the nomination.
lapucelle
(18,238 posts)Pepsidog
(6,254 posts)Last edited Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:04 AM - Edit history (1)
Apollyonus
(812 posts)TomSlick
(11,096 posts)i certainly will not give money to a candidate who is not a Democrat.
roody
(10,849 posts)TomSlick
(11,096 posts)I'm curious. How did someone who is not a Democrat cause you to register as a Democrat?
Apollyonus
(812 posts)progressoid
(49,969 posts)I also know two people who very active in our local Dem party who are there because of Bernie. They met at a rally and a year later got married (they are a couple of those young whippersnapper millennial types).
Cute couple.
roody
(10,849 posts)I'm a Democrat now due to Bernie.
MuseRider
(34,104 posts)I was unaffiliated but registered as a Democrat to caucus for him last time. Kept the D for our state elections.
Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)he is re registering as required by the new rules.
TomSlick
(11,096 posts)However, I remain convinced that BS hurt HRC in the general election and contributed to Trump's election. I fear he will do so again.
Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)I hope this primary season will be substantially less divisive than last time.
TomSlick
(11,096 posts)Bernie is terribly divisive among Democrats - just see all the posts tonight.
Bernie has won the battle - the party has adopted many of his positions. By running again, he may cost us the war by reelecting Trump.
Tonight for the first time, I am seriously concerned about the 2020 election. Bernie is likely to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)i strongly disagree but respect your opinion
Apollyonus
(812 posts)and seriously weaken the eventual nominee.
It won't be long before we here the usual memes:
Corporate Democrat
Establishment Democrat
Corrupt Democrat
Wall Street Democrat
Pay to play Democrat
directed at all the great REAL Democratic candidates.
I cringe at the thought.
TomSlick
(11,096 posts)Just like last time.
I am sincerely concerned about 2020 because of Bernie. The Republic cannot survive a Trump reelection. Until tonight, I have been confident the country could survive Trump. Bernie's announcement makes me unsure.
Apollyonus
(812 posts)Just today, Trump praised Bernie .... food for thought
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)he should step aside and not run for president?! I don't think so. Hillary got her second shot at the presidency and deservedly so... it's now Bernie's turn to run again. Maybe we should let the voters decide... it's called "democracy."
TomSlick
(11,096 posts)Bernie has every right to run. So does Schultz. However, the end result is predictable.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)on his first day, I would say, yes, the end result is predictable. Say hello to President Sanders!
Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Apollyonus
(812 posts)TomSlick
(11,096 posts)It's probably a lost cause.
Bernie supporters are true-believers. When Bernie doesn't win the nomination he will go to Vermont to sulk. The disappointed Bernie supporters will blame the party. We will be told that the Democratic nominee is a "corporatist" and there is no difference between the Democratic nominee and Trump. The Party will be divided and Trump will be reelected. It's all perfectly predictable.
You don't know that !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TomSlick
(11,096 posts)RAAD2
(95 posts)Donated to and phone called for Hillary.
Sorry.
Bernie got millions involved and most stayed.
I might share pictures i took at his Seattle rally.
Tens of thousands
Apollyonus
(812 posts)Apollyonus
(812 posts)It's his turn???????????????????????????????
Did he remain a Democrat after damaging Hillary?
watoos
(7,142 posts)win or lose he is staying a Democrat. I don't remember where I heard or read it though.
TomSlick
(11,096 posts)watoos
(7,142 posts)I just looked it up and Bernie has said that win or lose he is staying a Democrat.
TomSlick
(11,096 posts)Riddle me this:
Let's say Bernie wins the nomination and announces that he has decided to go back to being an Independent - again. What then is the remedy for the violation of the party rule?
radical noodle
(8,000 posts)because it sure doesn't sound like him at all. He couldn't even remain in the Democratic Party as Senator.
Apollyonus
(812 posts)cstanleytech
(26,280 posts)change his affiliation back to independent even though many asked him to remain?
Apollyonus
(812 posts)912gdm
(959 posts)but I value my money and will make sure it goes to someone who identifies as a Democrat, and is a proud member of the Democratic Party. <and will also show tax returns>
Democrat 2020!
Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)and hope he satisfies the tax returns as well!
BannonsLiver
(16,352 posts)Demonaut
(8,914 posts)Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)Demonaut
(8,914 posts)Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)sorry
aikoaiko
(34,165 posts)I threw $27 his way, too.
I'm still open to everyone, but looking at Booker keenly.
Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)Warren is my close second. I may be sending money her way too.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)He was the only candidate to defeat a 27 year incumbent political machine in Sharp James, and on more than a dozen occasions reached out to his constitents in the most human way (paving their driveways for an elderly resident), literally rescuing a woman from a burning building, just to name a few. He is courageous and puts his money where his mouth is. He would be the best corporate/ wall street funded candidate we have and would do some great things with that power and with those connections. But it's also for that reason I will go with the other choices in Bernie or Warren in the long run until they are no longer in the running.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)I'm guessing the record was set without the help of the Wall Street banks or dirty corporate PAC money.
BannonsLiver
(16,352 posts)Pace yourself. Were a year away from the actual votes being tallied.
Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)BannonsLiver
(16,352 posts)BannonsLiver
(16,352 posts)Obama had a $10 million day in September 2008 and raised $66 million that month. Bernie will never touch those numbers. But Is this going to be a deal like with trump and his crowd sizes and people just make up a bunch of shit that sounds good?
Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)Bernie's record is in small donors. https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/02/19/bernie-sanders-raises-over-33-million-120000-small-donors-just-10-hours
BannonsLiver
(16,352 posts)Its a record. Yeah.
Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)3 million in 10 hours is a record. Kamala's was too! If you disregard his, you would have to disregard hers too. These Democrats are smoking this year and I expect more to come from them in the near future.
sandensea
(21,621 posts)It's good to support a party with so many great choices.
As opposed to the others guys. Lately it's always either a clown car full of 10 or 15 knuckle-draggers and swamp creatures.
Or one incumbent banana republic-style despot.
Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)Any one of them will be a far cry from this atrocity right now. While my money is behind Bernie, he is far from the only well-qualified, credible candidate in the running right now.
sandensea
(21,621 posts)I voted for him in the primaries last time, and will be happy to do so again.
Yes, he'll be 78. But Cheeto will be 73 - and the man's a medical (and mental) basket case.
The way I see it, the only candidate who could beat Bernie in the primaries is Biden - maybe. But we have to see if Big Joe actually runs again.
Either one would send Cheeto running - to Moscow.
Apollyonus
(812 posts)The question is, will Bernie accept defeat, drop out and FULLY SUPPORT the eventual nominee?
Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)Money isn't everything but I do think he will go a lot further than you are giving him credit for. Time will tell. Any one in the line up would be an amazing deal!
Kentonio
(4,377 posts)Anyone in the current lineup? The same people who are raising less money, polling much, much lower and have lower favorables than he does? Ok then..
Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)they are also raising a ton of money and polling well. i think personally bernie is my chouce, but that doesnt mean the candidates are not also amazing and deserving of our support
Apollyonus
(812 posts)Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)we can do it
(12,180 posts)Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)we can do it
(12,180 posts)Beakybird
(3,332 posts)He'd probably make a fine president. But people at the top of his campaign + the Bernie Bros were absolutely toxic towards Clinton, and Bernie didn't disavow them. I believe that this was decisive in Trump getting elected. He and Tulsi Gabbard are at the very bottom of my list.
LuvLoogie
(6,975 posts)Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)tavernier
(12,375 posts)Sorry.
Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)In case that's helpful
GemDigger
(4,305 posts)Now he wants to be a democrat again. And then he will be an I again. I doubt he will ever stay a democrat if he loses or even if he wins. I can see him getting elected and at his inaugural saying oh by the way, I am leaving the d party.
Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)I respect your opinion
GemDigger
(4,305 posts)Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)But we will see.
GemDigger
(4,305 posts)Adrahil
(13,340 posts)So there! Apparently it's important to post up every donation.
Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)If you are proud of it, go for it! Kamala is wonderful!
RogerM
(150 posts)Dont need another distraction. There is no way I vote for a non-Democrat this election, that includes Bernie
Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)So I hope that helps at some point
Apollyonus
(812 posts)pnwmom
(108,973 posts)to elect more D's down-ticket?
Or is he one of those "only I can do it" dudes?
Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)emulatorloo
(44,109 posts)I supported Bernie in 2016 but I think Elizabeth Warren is a stronger candidate.
Apollyonus
(812 posts)and Democrat bashing.
(Just to answer your question)
Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)But Bernie seems to already have the fundraising apparatus behind him in a way that Warren hasn't yet established. That could make him a far more formidable General Election candidate.
emulatorloo
(44,109 posts)mbusby
(823 posts)...see your $27.00 and raise you $73.00.
Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)She will make an amazing candidate if she wins the nomination. And has made an amazing candidate since her record breaking fundraising announcement day.
W T F
(1,146 posts)Whats wrong with you people? Are we succumbing again to Russian propaganda aimed at dividing us? Just asking.
lancelyons
(988 posts)We cant have little quivels about ideaology when we have so much to lose. We should fight against an independent running as well as Green Party and be ok with libertarian candidates that steal votes from gop. This will not be a time to take any chances.
Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)And know that any one of them will be an amazing alternative to the chump we have right now. We need to maintain perspective on what we have to lose.
chwaliszewski
(1,514 posts)DoctorJoJo
(1,134 posts)Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Else wins. May the best person win.
Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)RAAD2
(95 posts)Who knows.
He surely belongs there.
And dont call me shirley.
MFM008
(19,804 posts)I dont think he will do as well as last time.
vercetti2021
(10,156 posts)Trumpocalypse
(6,143 posts)for helping to te-elect Trump.
Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)and not one of them is helping re elect trump.
Trumpocalypse
(6,143 posts)is or will help to re-elect Trump. It was the independent I was referring to.
Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)democrats.
Trumpocalypse
(6,143 posts)I was referring to the independent leech who every four years runs to use the partys infrastructure without ever contributing to it.
stopbush
(24,395 posts)MyNameGoesHere
(7,638 posts)So I haven't had to send anymore in the last several days. When more democrats come in I'll send them some contributions also.
disillusioned73
(2,872 posts)not in a position to do recurring.. but I will give when possible..
I guess I'm a russian trying to subvert our democracy now..
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