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Wed Feb 20, 2019, 09:46 AM

*** Official "I will vote for whoever the Dem candidate is" thread ***

It is time for solidarity, not infighting.

Personally I don't really care very much who gets the Democratic nomination. They ALL are a gazillion times better than what we have. In fact my biggest concern is how they would stack up against Trump.

So,

whether the nominee is Corey Booker, or Kamala Harris, or Elizabeth Warren, or Amy Klobuchar, or Kirsten Gillibrand, or Julian Castro, or Jerry Brown, or Eric Holder, or Joe Biden, or Hillary Clinton, or Mickey Mouse, I will march down to the polling station and gladly cast my ballot for that person. and I will encourage others to do so.

And yes, if Bernie Sanders is nominated at the Democratic candidate, I will gladly do the same.

Civil discussion about why you prefer one over the other is good. Finger pointing, blaming, and demonizing ANY of these potential candidates does NOT help the cause or our ultimate goal.

"Rec" if you agree.

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Response to Quemado (Reply #1)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 12:13 PM

111. I love her...

YAY!

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Response to Quemado (Reply #1)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 12:41 PM

125. Yes! She's the front runner for me.

Of course I will vote for the eventual nominee, whomever that ends up being. And my preference for Kamala May change as different candidates come and go. But right now she seems amazing.

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 09:56 AM

2. Hands down, no doubt, cross my heart, I give my 100% guarantee

I have my "GREAT!!" list and my "Well, maybe it won't come to this" list, which is VERY small. And I still have my "Wish" list.

From this point, on, I'm ignoring posts that are obviously meant to trash one candidate or another, but if a post is meant to make points as to why I should consider a candidate, I'm going to pay attention.

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Response to Siwsan (Reply #2)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:01 AM

3. Really well said!

I'm going to divide 'em up the way you have. Thanks!

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Response to Siwsan (Reply #2)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:25 AM

22. Me too

Which is why I do not support Bernie. He is not a member of the Democratic Party. We have some very fine progressive Dem candidates that are running. I don't have a favorite yet, but it sure isn't Bernie.

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Response to DownriverDem (Reply #22)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 11:18 AM

75. I Gotta agree w/ that, DD. n/t

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Response to DownriverDem (Reply #22)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 11:44 AM

91. Actually, not to argue but,

 

I read where Bernie is an official Democrat, win or lose, he is staying Democrat.

If I am wrong I have no problem in being corrected.

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Response to watoos (Reply #91)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 12:32 PM

119. Yep and if

Bernie is running against trump I will vote for him, not trump or stay home.

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Response to safeinOhio (Reply #119)

Thu Feb 21, 2019, 02:06 AM

216. You and me both. I will support the nominee.

Even if the nominee is not my first choice. Whatís the alternative - voting for The Asset? Or staying home? Or writing in Jill Fucking Stein? Or Howard ďThe SpoilerĒ Schultz?

Nope. NO WAY.

I will vote for the Democratic nominee.

There. I put it in writing.

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Response to watoos (Reply #91)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 11:34 PM

210. Link? Please? eom

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Response to DownriverDem (Reply #22)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 02:04 PM

142. Heh, heh! That didn't last long, did it?

On a thread that encourages folks to consider each candidate based upon merit and policies, here's a reply that doesn't promote anyone. It merely reflects a personal reason for not voting for someone. Whatever the validity of that bias, whatever the reason or reasons for not voting for someone, such a statement negates the purpose of the thread. I can't speak for others but I'm not one bit interested in why you wouldn't/won't support or vote for Bernie but I would be interested to know whom you do favor and for what reasons.

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Response to jamesatemple (Reply #142)

Thu Feb 21, 2019, 09:26 AM

230. From what I understand

DU supports Democrats. Why is that a problem for you?

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Response to Siwsan (Reply #2)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 12:05 PM

100. +1

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Response to Siwsan (Reply #2)

Thu Feb 21, 2019, 12:12 AM

215. We're lucky to have such a smorgasbord of talent.

Just because your favorite isn't nominated, that doesn't mean they can't still serve the country admirably in the administration of an eventual Democratic president.

My wish is that at every debate the candidates all express support for each other and have meaningful positive conversations about issues they wish to focus on and goals they hope to achieve.

I don't want to watch the trash-talking McDonald kicked up in the Repub debates.

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:03 AM

4. That makes two of us

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Response to blueinredohio (Reply #4)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:36 AM

31. Three!

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:03 AM

5. I'm in!

We have such a deep bench. Poor republicans are stuck in the rut of their own making. I'm happy to see so many well qualified candidates. I believe the debates and discussions leading up to the primaries will be valuable and informative as long as we don't become divisive and self defeating.

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:08 AM

6. Rec!!!

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:11 AM

7. Cheers !

To the Yellow Dogs!

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:12 AM

8. If we can't unite around this sentiment we got problems

But DU has never been a good habitat for PUMA's or BoB's or any other brand of General Election rejectionists. We are as a whole pretty clear about that bottom line.

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Response to Tom Rinaldo (Reply #8)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:41 AM

42. Yeah, most of them went to that weird pine tree site.

Some of the people on there are classic 4chan.

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:12 AM

9. I'm saying yes.......although I hope so hard it isn't Tulsi Gabbard

That would be really tough.

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Response to Coventina (Reply #9)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:16 AM

15. i agree.

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:12 AM

10. I prefer to focus on the positive aspects of a candidate

Rather than the negatives.

Hopefully our discourse will lead to a consensus.

In the end, if my preferred candidate is not the consensus choice, I will support the nominee of our party.

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Response to bluecollar2 (Reply #10)

Thu Feb 21, 2019, 06:37 AM

224. Honestly, Democrats are like a big family.

Fight like the devil among ourselves, then stick together against all enemies.

This is why I am a Democrat.

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:13 AM

11. Any sensible adult 2020

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Response to IronLionZion (Reply #11)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 05:49 PM

167. Most kids I know have more sense than Tre45on

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:14 AM

12. I won't only vote

I will vote for them, and also donate and campaign for them. The fate of our Democracy is at stake.

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:15 AM

13. Agree completely. All I really care is that a Dem beats Trump, and that we do well downballot.

I will vote for any Dem. I'll contribute to whoever gets the nomination.

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Response to DanTex (Reply #13)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:27 AM

23. The operative word

is "Dem".

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Response to DownriverDem (Reply #23)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:52 AM

52. Yep.. a True Blue Dem.

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Response to DownriverDem (Reply #23)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 11:00 AM

61. So if someone who currently is an Independent wins the Democratic nomination for President

...by that I mean officially secures the nomination to run for President at the official 2020 Democratic Convention, are you saying you would not vote for that person on the Democratic line against Trump?

Because that is the bottom line question.

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Response to Tom Rinaldo (Reply #61)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 12:36 PM

123. Anyone that doesn't

Will help re elect trump.

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:16 AM

14. K&R

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:17 AM

16. I will work tirelessly for the Democratic nominee...

 

...and donate money. I will not donate to any Democrat in the primary, but I will donate to the nominee once he or she is chosen.

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:19 AM

17. Rec

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:21 AM

18. I'm in.

Even for the two I'll have to hold my nose in order to cast my vote. Getting rid of Trump is job #1.

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:23 AM

19. YES. For a "thumbnail" sketch of all potential candidates (so far), check

out this Rolling Stone article, which "ranks" them, apparently by perceived strength. SPOILER ALERT - here's your top ten:

1. K. Harris
2. B. Sanders
3. S. Brown
4 J. Biden
5. B. O'Rourke
6. E. Warren
7. C. Booker
8. K. Gillibrand
9. A. Klobuchar
10. J. Castro

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/2020-democrat-candidates-771735/

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Response to bullwinkle428 (Reply #19)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:37 AM

34. 4,1,9,7,3,5,6,10,8,2

Biden/Harris is the Dem power ticket!!

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Response to aeromanKC (Reply #34)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 11:10 AM

67. i SO agree!!!!!!

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Response to aeromanKC (Reply #34)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 11:11 AM

70. That would be my choice as well.

However I will vote for whoever becomes the nominee. Up until though, I have an opinion on which candidates will do better in the general.

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Response to aeromanKC (Reply #34)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 03:42 PM

155. I agree.

We'd have an experienced, genuine man with a good tie to Obama and an up-and-comer who takes no crap.

I like Booker, too, though. In fact, most of the candidates have some good ideas. They could all have a role in my dream administration.

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Response to aeromanKC (Reply #34)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 04:59 PM

160. Agree! Mine is also Biden/Harris.

Heard a national poll on MSNBC stating more of the general public support Biden.

I love both of these candidates' spunk.

Is my memory failing or do I correctly recall Pres. Obama holding Joe back a few times when he was voicing strong opinions?? Joe, if I recall, often took a harsher tone with the rethugs than did his good friend.

I like Warren a LOT but she doesn't seem to have the gravitas that Harris does.


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Response to aeromanKC (Reply #34)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 07:09 PM

175. Completely agree!

Biden/Harris is a solid ticket, I also like Biden/Brown. But, no matter who the Dem nominee is, they'll have my full support in the 2020 Presidential election! We cannot withstand another four years of tRump

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Response to aeromanKC (Reply #34)

Thu Feb 21, 2019, 06:42 AM

225. That would be great!

Experience , qualified in Law.

I can also see Biden/ Brown.

East Coast/ Midwest.

But have no preference yet.

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Response to bullwinkle428 (Reply #19)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:37 AM

35. Curious. Why Gillibrand ahead of Klobuchar? nt

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Response to bullwinkle428 (Reply #19)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:46 AM

47. Good analysis, except why do they call Bernie Sanders a Democrat?

Makes me wonder....

Bernie is someone I would exclude from this list, and they include several others who may never declare their candidacy. For what it's worth, I like what they say about Kamala Harris, Elizabeth Warren, Amy Klobuchar and Cory Booker.

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Response to FakeNoose (Reply #47)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:57 AM

58. Because he is running for the Democratic nomination.

 

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Response to bullwinkle428 (Reply #19)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 11:52 AM

96. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

WHERE"S TULSI????

Funny as all get out she didn't make your list!!

(FYI: She's not on mine , either)

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:24 AM

20. So tired of the Bernie attacks.

They play into the foreign attacks on our system to divide us. Though he may not be your candidate, he is not the enemy. We know who that is!

I was a Bernie supporter who voted for Hillary in the General. Probably will be a Beto supporter but still not sure. It probably will not be Bernie this time.

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Response to Dustlawyer (Reply #20)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:36 AM

32. How is this a Bernie attack? Everyone's saying they'd vote for him if he were the nominee, aren't..

...they?

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Response to LAS14 (Reply #32)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 03:33 PM

154. This post is NOT an attack on Bernie.

I was making a comment in general about any post where Bernie is the subject. I just urge we save our powder for the Republicans and do not let them divide us.

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Response to Dustlawyer (Reply #20)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:38 AM

36. Lol! "I will vote for a Democrat" is now an attack on BS?

Can you see the ridiculousness of that? If not, you might have a blind spot.

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Response to Squinch (Reply #36)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 03:31 PM

153. My comment did not mean this post was an attack on Bernie.

I believe we should not attack anyone running as a Democrat at this point. Disagreeing with a position on an issue aside, we should let the Primary develop and support the one we like best without tearing down the others. Bernie is a very polarizing figure on this site, way more than I believe is deserved, but with the Republicans and what they have done, we need a solid front and not let them divide us.

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Response to Dustlawyer (Reply #153)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 07:36 PM

181. Then there was no reason for you to make that comment in this thread. Why did you?

Why bring up BS at all and complain that people are attacking him in this thread that you do not think was an attack on BS?

If you want us not to be divided, don't do things like that.

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Response to Squinch (Reply #181)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 09:43 PM

192. The post spoke to vote for the Democrat that wins the Primary.

I chose to post my feelings in hopes some would tone it down and not attack others running in that Primary.

Why attack me for saying what I did? Do you have an axe to grind against Bernie and therefore chose to attack me?

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Response to Dustlawyer (Reply #192)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:14 PM

198. No. The post said: "So tired of the Bernie attacks." In a thread that had nothing to do with BS.

That is divisiveness for its own sake. If you don't want people to be divisive, stop being divisive.

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Response to Dustlawyer (Reply #20)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:38 AM

37. I'm totally with you.... I too supported Bernie in the primary and Hillary in the general

And IF Bernie were to win the Democratic nomination this time I'd be fine with that. He's not my first choice for 2020 but he's sure the shit better than the current occupier of the White House. We absolutely must stick together to ensure a strong turnout and hopefully retake the Senate as well as the White House.

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Response to Dustlawyer (Reply #20)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:52 AM

50. BS is going to be Vetted just

like every other Dem candidate.

No exceptions.

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Response to Dustlawyer (Reply #20)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:55 AM

55. Don't forget: in many circles ---

Any opportunity to bash Bernie must be instantly seized with both hands.

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Response to Dustlawyer (Reply #20)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 11:34 AM

83. I must agree with you on that. It's very tiresome and demoralizing to hear...

So tired of the Bernie attacks.
I must agree with you on that. I am too! It's very tiresome and demoralizing to hear someone saying that the Democrats are "ideologically bankrupt" and "corrupt".

They play into the foreign attacks on our system to divide us.
I know what you mean. It's very divisive to hear attacks that claim that the Democratic party is "the party of the elite" and that Democrats represent "the one percent"... when nothing could be further from the truth.

Fact of the matter is that NONE of the above are true... but the repeated attacks like that on Democrats and the Democratic party definitely cause division, resentment and suspicion. It certainly isn't the kind of thing to motivate people to support the Democratic party (either with their vote, or their time, or their donations).

All I'm saying is that this just plays into the myth that "both parties are the same"... and that's simply not true. But with enough repetition, people begin to believe it and they have no reason to vote for Democrats at all.

Sadly that weakens the party, and a weakened Democratic party only serves to benefit the GOP, and Trump, and Russia.

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #83)

Thu Feb 21, 2019, 02:42 AM

221. Truth. Well said Nurse Jackie!

 

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Response to Dustlawyer (Reply #20)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 11:35 AM

84. Disagree

He is the vehicle for those foreign attacks

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Response to Dustlawyer (Reply #20)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 05:03 PM

163. Same here.

They should just stfu. Bernie will not be our candidate >.<

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Response to Dustlawyer (Reply #20)

Thu Feb 21, 2019, 09:07 AM

229. Same here. And Bernie campaigned for Hillary as well.

Many of Bernieís ideas were added to Hillaryís platform.

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:25 AM

21. Absolutely

And vote democratic down ballot as well. Local races are very important too and the party needs to win back state legislatures and governorships as well.

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:28 AM

24. Easiest rec ever.

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:28 AM

25. We have some damn good choices

I'll decide before my state Caucus. But lets keep our eye on the prize, the humiliating defeat of the orange anus.

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:29 AM

26. I never vote for Republicans.

I will vote for every Democrat on my ballot. I prefer Kamala Harris at the moment, but I think Amy Klobuchar made a strong announcement speech.

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:32 AM

27. Please God, don't let that be non Democrat Bernie Sanders!!

No worries son, it won't be Bernie. Remember, he's not a Democrat. You re good.

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Response to aeromanKC (Reply #27)

Thu Feb 21, 2019, 02:35 AM

220. But if it is Bernie, will you vote for him?

Lots of people from bernie's camp and other non-hillary camps made the decision to not vote for Clinton, and in some cases even vote for Trump (I didn't believe this until I read up on it) I think the intent of the OP is to identify folks who may have a similar mindset this time around so that hopefully they can be convinced that's the not the best approach.

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Response to Sapient Donkey (Reply #220)

Thu Feb 21, 2019, 02:50 AM

222. Straight D ticket

But it wont be Bernie. The Dem bench is too strong this time.

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:34 AM

28. Good sentiments. We are, however, just beginning the primary season.

Like a year early.

As time goes by, leaders will emerge.

Some of us will fall in love with one leader, and some for another.

There will be infighting as surrogates for one spread partial truths about the others, or even (alas!) lies.

People will get angry.

They will argue.

And the media will work very, very hard to amplify every little faux 'controversy' for the sake of increased ratings and more shareholder profits.

Super Pacs will begin spreading lies and half-truths, and the corporate owned media will eagerly grasp the ad revenues.

And you and I will get barraged with emails, direct mails and telephone calls begging us for donations.

Then someone will win.

THAT IS WHEN WE ALL NEED TO FORGET THE SHIT AND GET BEHIND THEM, WHEN WE MUST DO ALL WE CAN TO ENSURE THEY ARE ELECTED. WHEN WE MUST DO ALL WE CAN TO SEE DEMS ELECTED AT ALL LEVELS.

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:35 AM

29. Bravo. Yes.

Whoever wins the D primary is the D candidate and must get all of our votes.

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:35 AM

30. Isn't it inconceivable that any DUer would disagree???? nt

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:36 AM

33. I just want to win. Not interested in moral victories.*

 

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:38 AM

38. I will.

 

Of course I will. What other alternative do I have. But I want a DEMOCRATIC candidate.

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:38 AM

39. ++++++++++++++++++++++ ! n/t

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:39 AM

40. Count me in!

I would vote for my hyper but sweet Aussie before I'd vote for one of the devils (aka repugs) or not vote at all.

My faves rarely win because I prefer the far left spectrum of policies in general, but I always switch my allegiance to the winners and go all out for them. This year I'm retired so I can participate so much more than I did in the elections prior to the mid-terms, and I'm looking forward to it.

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:40 AM

41. Count me in

Anyone but trump

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:43 AM

43. The worst Democrat

Would be better than the best Republican. I doubt Iíll ever vote for a Republican again.

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:45 AM

44. I think primaries should be pretty bloody.

 

"Finger pointing, blaming, and demonizing ANY of these potential candidates does NOT help the cause or our ultimate goal. "

These are things are viewed different by each individual. I was a big Clinton backer. I know that many Clinton backers around me thought that discussing her Iraq war vote was counterproductive and was just an attempt to demonize her. I thought it was fair game and an important part of her political history. I think talking about Gabbards appearant affection for brutal dictators to be fair game in a primary. Others don't. I think discussing Sanders past literary work that involves rape fantasies and his refusal to release full tax returns to be fair debate. Others don't.

"It is time for solidarity, not infighting."

Primaries are the exact time for infighting. The general, or the point at which the nominee is known, is the time for solidarity.

Out of all current announced candidates there isn't one I wouldn't vote for in the general.

K&R

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:45 AM

45. I want a Biden and Harris ticket sooooooo bad but YEP I will vote for

...the Dem nominee. PERIOD!

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Response to samnsara (Reply #45)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 05:27 PM

165. Count me in

Though I made my preference Kamala Harris, I would be excited about Biden/Harris with a spot in Government for Klobuchar as AG with Franken back in the Senate.

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:46 AM

46. I always vote for the Democrat

I'll be interested to see who doesn't agree to this, though.

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:49 AM

48. Demonizing ANY of these potential candidates?

 

I see the demonizing already, posted in this very thread.

No one can deny that he pulled over 150K users, over 4M in the first day alone.

That actually means something.

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Response to Bernie42020 (Reply #48)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:56 AM

57. I don't care how much money

BS makes.. he's going to be Vetted like every other Democratic Candidate.

No exceptions.

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Response to Cha (Reply #57)

Thu Feb 21, 2019, 06:49 AM

226. At this point

Everyone is lost in the crowd. The debates will help us.

Just heard a Republican Governor say Trump looks weak in the 2020 Election.

You think Republicans are sick of his hate filled, snarling attacks,too? None of them know if they will be next.

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Response to Bernie42020 (Reply #48)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 12:25 PM

116. hear, hear!

Bernie has faults just like all the others, it will be a choice of what we want to over look, no one is perfect. Just as long as we in the end come together and vote, VOTE BLUE.

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:51 AM

49. Let's see Trump vs anyone or anything . . . . . My vote is for anyone or anything other than T

 

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:52 AM

51. Of course. It is what I always do. It is not rocket science

Fall in love with a primary candidate, and then enthusiastically support and GOTV the eventual nominee.

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:53 AM

53. ALWAYS... always. I am a Democrat.

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:54 AM

54. I'll vote for the Democrat

 

It's just a matter of how hard I'll work and how much I'll contribute. For some, the answer is zero other than casting the ballot.

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:55 AM

56. Of course I will!!

But there are some I won't be that happy to vote for. But the worst is infinitely times infinity better than Trump or Pence!

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:58 AM

59. I agree 100%

This what the gop does. As long as they have (R) after their name, they are accepted. The added bonus of Russian money helped, of course. We democratic supporters want BRAINS in our candidates.

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:59 AM

60. Anyone who won't has no legitimate business on this site. n/t

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Response to Mister Ed (Reply #60)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 11:04 AM

64. Agreed

Anyone over trump

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 11:02 AM

62. Mickey Mouse and Bernie Sanders are not Dems

Nt.

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Response to itsrobert (Reply #62)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 12:00 PM

98. I live in Vermont and have had Bernie as my rep/senator for 20 years.

Bernie votes and caucuses with the Dems. I respect his independence. if you look at his voting record, it is 90% with the Dems.

He is a valuable voice who has clearly proposed many good ideas, some of which are now being adopted by other Dem candidates, and most of his ideas I agree with and support.

he is very careful not do anything to threaten the dem party or it's candidate if it is not him. if he doesn't get the nomination, there is zero chance he will run independent.

the rules allow him to get on the ticket and run as a Dem. i have no problem with it. if he is nominated i will gladly vote for him in the general election.

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 11:06 AM

65. Brown is my current favorite, but I'll get behind the Democrat who wins.

Letís let the republicans be the only ones who eat their own.

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 11:09 AM

66. solidarity



YES

There are certain candidates I prefer: Harris, Biden, Sherrod Brown,Klobacher,
and ones I don't want: Bernie, Booker (maybe) Gillibrand, but whomever they nominate, I'm there.

Discipline

It's something the repubs are good at. Democrats, not so much.

No pouting or voting for some idiotic 3rd party candidate (If it hadn't been for the idiots who voted for Jill Stein, I think Michigan would have gone for Hillary)

Just pull the lever or fill in the circle for the DEMOCRATS!!!!!

Or when I die I will come back to haunt you!!!! And I'm 67 so it maybe not be that long. I'm thinking...86?

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 11:10 AM

68. Agreed

We6ve an embarrassment of riches.

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 11:10 AM

69. Ham Sandwich for President!

 

That is, if the ham sandwich is a Democrat. Yes, put me on the "I will vote for any Democrat over Trump" list.

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Response to Still In Wisconsin (Reply #69)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 11:22 AM

76. beat me to it haha...

although I would prefer Sen. Ham Sandwich. Experience and all...

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 11:12 AM

71. Christ, we are already doing this?

 

Oy vey.

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 11:14 AM

72. Of course but

I donít think Bernie can win in the general. And that should be our #1 consideration. If he ends up the candidate Iíll vote for him and hope he chooses a good running mate.

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 11:14 AM

73. Vote, of course, but if it happens to be the B person I will

not campaign for or give money to him. However, with all the other younger and progressive candidates running, I do not expect this to be a problem.

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 11:16 AM

74. Yep. As always nt

 


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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 11:22 AM

77. No doubt. And I sure hope it is Kamala, but...

...I think we have an embarrassment of riches with this group of candidate so any of them will be fine.

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 11:23 AM

78. Agreed!

But, please, please, please not Tulsi Gabbsrd.

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 11:25 AM

79. It's about THE CENTER

 

A percentage of voters will vote for the Republican candidate no matter who s/he is.

A percentage of voters will vote for the Democratic candidate no matter who s/he is.

The secret to victory is (1) turn out your base, and, (2) WIN THE CENTER.

This is the problem with the likes of (an unnamed old geezer) whose sole function is to "drive all the other candidates to the left."

We Democrats do not need to be driven to the left. We need to be driven to the CENTER. Because:
-- The Center supports legal, readily-available abortion
-- The Center supports tolerance toward minorities and LGBT
-- The Center has no use for Trump and Trump clones
-- The Center supports some form of national health insurance
-- The Center supports extended background checks, bans on bump stocks, and other serious gun control
-- The Center supports green energy
-- The Center supports public education
-- The Center is the middle class who recognize they are in trouble and who want help that only Democrats can give

We do not need any candidate who "drives Democrats to the left." We need a solidly centrist candidate because The Center supports what we support.

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Response to Roadside Attraction (Reply #79)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 12:47 PM

131. excellent post!

Republicans depend on (1) their base -- radical extremists -- getting out to vote, and (2) depressing the turnout of Democrats, and (3) "The Center" mostly staying unmotivated to vote.

We need to educate the electorate and get the masses to vote.

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Response to Roadside Attraction (Reply #79)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 01:09 PM

133. Hey, Look! Even the center is spouting Bernie's positions! Maybe in a few more years,

the center will have the courage to take on even more. I can see a revival of a MIDDLE class coming about. Now that would be something! When the majority of people believe in something, THAT"S the center. What with all these wonderful candidates taking on Bernie's timely ideas what would you expect? Why not vote for the original!

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Response to Doitnow (Reply #133)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 02:05 PM

143. These are DEMOCRATIC ideas,

from the Democratic Party platform. So yes, let's vote for the original. Choose one of the Democrats, an original who is not afraid to identify as a Democrat, come hell or high-water.

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Response to murielm99 (Reply #143)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 07:05 PM

174. Putting things in a platform and then ignoring them so that they all accumulate till we have a

bonfire is a sorry state. I think Bernie has the courage and persistence to DO something about them-----along with many of the newly inspired.

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Response to Doitnow (Reply #174)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 08:31 PM

185. Based on his past legislative record?

All the other things he has accomplished in forty years?

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Response to Roadside Attraction (Reply #79)

Thu Feb 21, 2019, 02:15 AM

218. Really - the center

is the left now. Same thing.

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 11:26 AM

80. Yes, I will.

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 11:26 AM

81. Yes

 

The infighting will do far more harm than good in the long run.

I hope all the Democratic candidates and their supporters will agree to not damage each other's candidates.

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 11:34 AM

82. of course!!

you wouldn't be much of a democrat to do anything else! Voting for a republican would be insane! And even if you like an independent, let's be real, no independent is ever going to win unless things change in a dramatic way. To vote for someone who has no chance of winning would be similar to voting for a republican since it's 1 less vote the democratic candidate would get!

Personally I like Harris, I think she would make a great president! But I will vote whoever the democratic candidate is.

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 11:38 AM

85. Haven't seen a Repub worth my vote in decades, so Yeah...

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 11:40 AM

86. I will vote for any Democrat who is the nominee.

I would like to be clear since Sen. Sanders is not a Democrat that I will vote him if he is the nominee also.

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 11:40 AM

87. I will, too

The worst Democratic candidate will be better than the best Respublican one.

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 11:41 AM

88. Immovably so!

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 11:41 AM

89. Really

This is the wrong place for those wishing to explore their politicality.

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 11:41 AM

90. Damn right

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 11:45 AM

92. Goes without saying

Hope it's a real Dem, though!

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 11:47 AM

93. I will vote for any registered member of the Democratic party who is nominated.

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 11:50 AM

94. Hell, yes!

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 11:51 AM

95. Should go without saying

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 11:56 AM

97. I will

because any one of the people who have announced so far or are likely to announce that they are running are so much better than that orange thing and his grifter family.

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 12:00 PM

99. Absolutely.

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 12:06 PM

101. I will donate and volunteer. nt

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 12:06 PM

102. Will do

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 12:07 PM

103. Yes, But I Just Hope TF It Isn't Anyone Who Will Turn 80 the Year They Take Office!

 

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 12:08 PM

104. Of course

 

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 12:08 PM

105. Yep

1-2 may be a bit of a hold-your-nose thing, but the least Democratic nominee is better miles better than anyone the GOP has fielded in a generation.

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 12:09 PM

106. I've always voted for the Democrat in Presidential Elections...

And plan on doing so again, unless the party looses it's mind and endorses Donald J. Trump. That would be a step WAY too far....

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 12:09 PM

107. Definitely agree

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 12:10 PM

108. Dem always.

I'm looking forward to 2020 and supporting our candidate to the fullest.

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 12:10 PM

109. Damn Right!

EOM

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 12:13 PM

110. Absolutely

To do otherwise is unthinkable.

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 12:17 PM

112. That's what I did in 2008, 2012 and 2016

not going to change now!

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 12:19 PM

113. I will vote for whomever the Democratic nominee is without question

The Supreme Court is hanging by a thread and Dump has put too many kooks on the Circuit Courts already, so without question i will vote for the Democratic nominee in Nov 2020..

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 12:25 PM

114. There is no question that I will vote for the Democratic nominee.

However, if it is Kirsten who led the take down of Al Franken, I will hold my breath while I do it. In this list I would prefer Mickey Mouse over her.

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 12:25 PM

115. COUNT ME IN!!!!

Only hurting our selves by fighting about this!

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 12:27 PM

117. Done...

However, we are rooting hard for Kamala Harris!

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 12:30 PM

118. Oh, yes...of course I will. 'Nuff said!

n/t

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 12:35 PM

120. This should go without saying...

I wont ever support Bernie in the primary. But if he somehow manages to win the Dem nomination he has my vote. I sincerely hope Bernie supporters will do the same when he loses again.

Tulsi Gabbard may be the exception ... thankfully she has zero chance.

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 12:35 PM

121. Always

Every time

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 12:36 PM

122. I'm on board with this

I have my preferences as to the candidate but I will vote for the DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE...WHOEVER IT IS.

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 12:37 PM

124. This is more than the top of the ticket.

We have to take the Senate, State and local elections. The blue wave has to be a tsunami.

Looking forward to the Democratic Presidential Primary with so many candidates. What an opportunity to discuss, display and distribute our diversity!

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 12:41 PM

126. Absolutely.

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 12:42 PM

127. I pledge that I will do the same

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 12:43 PM

128. All in

on Whoever, Harris, Biden, Warren, Sanders, Castro, Gillibrand, Gabbard, Klobuchar, Booker, Brown, Beto, Tree Stump, My mom's cat. Anyone not Trump. They are all in play.

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 12:44 PM

129. I agree about the infighting. I've been voting for Democrats in the general election for almost 50

years and it won't change this time.

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 12:46 PM

130. I am with you

I really donít much care after having Donnie Boy breaking just about everything.

I will donate time and money. I have seven grand babies whom deserve sanity.


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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 01:10 PM

134. Amen! Bernie, Kamala, Warren...

I will support any Dem against Trump! Unity is the key here!!!

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 01:20 PM

135. Yes!

I voted Bernie in 2016 primary, and voted Hillary in general last time around. At this exact moment i am a fan of all our people running, with a lean toward Kamala Harris and Elizabeth Warren. Whomever is the eventual nominee, i will of course vote for.

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 01:21 PM

136. We gotta Dump the Trump... Kick the elephant outta room!

The Democratic candidate gets my vote if I get the right to do so.

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Wed Feb 20, 2019, 01:34 PM

138. There are times I don't agree with a certain Democrat

however in the end I always vote Democrat as it's the party that comes the closest to what my values and beliefs are.

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Wed Feb 20, 2019, 01:52 PM

139. K & R

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Wed Feb 20, 2019, 01:52 PM

140. of course

There shouldn't even be a question.....

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Wed Feb 20, 2019, 01:58 PM

141. Yep.

I will vote for Democrats, up and down the ballot.

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Wed Feb 20, 2019, 02:28 PM

144. Yes.

Even if the nominee ends up being Tulsi Gabbard or Bernie Sanders. Because while (IMO) they are problematic, they're still a *hell* of a lot better than Trump.

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 02:43 PM

145. Yes , I'm in

I also pledge to build bridges where I find divides .. Let's Win This

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Wed Feb 20, 2019, 02:43 PM

146. After the debacle of 2000, I've never done anything but...

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Wed Feb 20, 2019, 02:46 PM

147. In the past, I "voted the candidate" and not the party

But today, with margins so thin, we have to keep the Dems in charge. And that means holding majorities in legislative houses (because the majority usually gets the leadership positions and can control the schedule and agenda). And that means voting Democratic no matter what.

Ideological purity has to take a back seat to party affiliation at times like this.

When Dems have a 2/3-rds majority in a body, then go ahead and vote hyper-lib and risk losing a seat here and there to make our point. (In the 80's I voted Green a whole lot here in CA.)

But, I have been putting some of my lefty impulses in check as of late so we can counteract the unbelievable rightward swing of the Republican calamity. And that means occasionally supporting a moderate Dem over a far left one so we have a candidate who can beat most Repubs.

I know this will get me flamed. But, so be it...

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 02:53 PM

148. K&R

Keep this thread kicked throughout the primary see if some lurking former members/jack-off radicals get the point.

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Wed Feb 20, 2019, 02:54 PM

149. Agreed.

Heck, I would vote to close the office of the presidency and tell congress everything is automatically vetoed for the next four years rather than keep what we have now. Trump is way worse than nothing. I know that's silly, but I'm kidding on the square as Al Franken used to say on his Air America show. I really like this group of candidates that we have. Compare them to all the republican candidates from 2015 and you can truly see how much better our side is. Go Dems!



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Wed Feb 20, 2019, 02:56 PM

150. I always do.

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Wed Feb 20, 2019, 03:18 PM

152. THANK YOU!!!

 

God I do hate all that squabbling shit.

I am not even going to tell anyone who I will vote for in the CA primary. Except my wife and kids.

Eyes on the prize people! Gotta get rid of the goddamn Trump!

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Wed Feb 20, 2019, 03:47 PM

156. I'm in

If we nominated someone like Manchin it would be a struggle not to want a third candidate, but will do best I can. I don't think we will nominate someone that conservative anyway.

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Wed Feb 20, 2019, 04:19 PM

157. AFAD

Any Functioning Adult Democrat

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Wed Feb 20, 2019, 04:24 PM

158. I will do as I always have in the past, show up and vote straight ticket Democrat.

It may be as it has been in the past, I may have to hold my nose, but I do it. I have never missed a vote except for one city council vote when I had my appendix removed. Nothing would keep me from voting for a Democrat. Any Democrat would be better than the alternative.

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Wed Feb 20, 2019, 04:58 PM

159. +1. Like them all. Refuse to invest mental energy in picking before next year.

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Wed Feb 20, 2019, 05:00 PM

161. Of course. Anything is better than dump. Anything. nt

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Wed Feb 20, 2019, 05:00 PM

162. No question

The Republicans have basically become open traitors to the country and its peoples. Time for us to throw them out.

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Wed Feb 20, 2019, 05:26 PM

164. por supuesto

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Wed Feb 20, 2019, 05:46 PM

166. Thank goodness this will be the last of these threads that we need

for there surely will not be anymore after this

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Wed Feb 20, 2019, 05:53 PM

168. Count me in!!

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Wed Feb 20, 2019, 05:54 PM

169. Of course. There is no question. n/t

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Wed Feb 20, 2019, 06:32 PM

171. There is a lot of baggage among rank and file democrats left over from 2016.

I really hope we can move on -- beyond Bernie, Hillary, even Biden. Bernie has made tremendous contributions to our ideas about what we really should be trying to accomplish as a nation. Biden is loved, but a year older than I am. I'm very healthy. I plan to play pickleball for at least eight more years, but to do the job of president? For eight years? For four years, then another wide open election? I hope we can move on. We have a whole bunch of great younger candidates.

I am very impressed with Kamala Harris, but absolutely open minded.

I worry about people from the Northeast -- too many big banks, insurance companies, etc. I'm not talking about electability; I'm talking about donations, loyalties, and influences; I'm talking about what they would DO.

I want to see resumes. I want to assess personalities and communication skills. I want to assess character and integrity. I want to assess wisdom and judgement. OBVIOUSLY, I want someone very different from Trump and every other Republican I can think of.

I want a Democrat.

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Wed Feb 20, 2019, 06:55 PM

172. A no brainer. I will vote for the Democratic Party nominee in November.

Even if that person is someone that I did not vote for in the primary.

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Wed Feb 20, 2019, 07:01 PM

173. Here.

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Wed Feb 20, 2019, 07:12 PM

176. Always have, always will.

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Wed Feb 20, 2019, 07:18 PM

177. Damn right.

 

The worst Democrat is a trillion times better than that orange fuck or any one else in the GOP.

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Wed Feb 20, 2019, 07:19 PM

178. Any democrat

Or Bernie if he wins. Whoever wins the primary has my vote, money, support.

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Wed Feb 20, 2019, 07:24 PM

179. Ham Sandwich (D) gets my vote.

And old DU meme: Iíll wait in line with ham sandwich and vote for the Democratic nominee.

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Wed Feb 20, 2019, 07:35 PM

180. Yes, tho my preference is a candidate who would best pull in swing states

We need someone who can bring PA, MI, and WI into our column at minimum.

My focus is winning. My attitude is that the least desirable Democrat from a policy perspective is leagues ahead of any Republican.

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Wed Feb 20, 2019, 07:37 PM

182. I still recall ...

a few months ago there were posts saying we MUST vote for Oprah,
because she had given a good speech somewhere,
about something.

Personally I'm putting more thought into my decision.

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Wed Feb 20, 2019, 08:02 PM

183. Yes. If FDR came back to run third party I'd vote Dem.

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Wed Feb 20, 2019, 08:05 PM

184. No Doubt

This is an all hands on deck emergency!

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Wed Feb 20, 2019, 08:43 PM

186. Rec

My avatar is a yellow dog for a reason.

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Wed Feb 20, 2019, 08:54 PM

187. YES. Even if the Democratic candidate is a yellow dog.

I always vote for the entire Democratic ticket, top to bottom.

No third-party doofuses for me, EVER.

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Wed Feb 20, 2019, 09:04 PM

188. VOTE BLUE, NO MATTER WHO!

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Wed Feb 20, 2019, 09:06 PM

189. 100% sagacious reminder! Murdoch/Putin/Trump trolls can't divide us. n/t

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Wed Feb 20, 2019, 09:25 PM

190. Completely on board to vote for straight DEM ticket!

No question!

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Wed Feb 20, 2019, 09:40 PM

191. I'm in.

 

To do otherwise is stupid.

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Wed Feb 20, 2019, 09:52 PM

193. 100%, no doubt

It's such a strong field. I'm leaning towards Harris, but there are so many good candidates. I listen to NPR, and every time they interview someone I get the same feeling - "there's another fantastic, rational, intelligent candidate"...A couple of days ago I listened to the interview with Buttigieg, who I'd never heard of before. His policies and priorities are right on, and he speaks so articulately, down to earth and solid. Booker, same. It's hard not to be just generally enthusiastic.

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 09:57 PM

194. Seriously, folks on this board need to stop villifying...

certain candidates and their supporters. We need to be united no matter then Dem candidate cuz the right-wing is gonna pull out ALL the stops in 2020...

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Response to SMC22307 (Reply #194)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 11:15 PM

206. AMEN! nt.

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Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:00 PM

195. Isn't it 'for WHOMever the dem candidate is?'



At the moment I like Kamela Harris. I like how she gets to the heart of the matter and speaks directly. There is definitely a ranking among the candidates and for me Senator Harris is the leader of the pack. She has a good GTFO progressive leaning attitude.

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Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:00 PM

196. Damn right. NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT. n/t

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Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:13 PM

197. Just like I have since 1968.

Simple Enough

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Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:33 PM

199. Bernie in the primaries....

 

Whoever gets the nomination in the general election. Just like 2016. Hated that Bernie didn't win the nomination, but would love to have seen our candidate get elected. She was a good one, and I would have been proud to have seen Hillary Clinton elected. I'm very proud to say that I voted for her.

Go Bernie!!!

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Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:43 PM

200. Obviously

though there are one or two I'll have to pinch my nose while pulling the lever.

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Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:47 PM

201. Absolutely!! TWICE if it's Bernie!!

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Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:48 PM

202. YES, absolutely. K&R

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Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:51 PM

203. Bernie will NOT get my vote

Really hope that this fake will lose in the primaries. He is one of the reasons we lost 2016 and dont want to lose again bacause of him. He will never get my vote.

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Response to RogerM (Reply #203)

Thu Feb 21, 2019, 02:19 AM

219. This is really a suspicious comment

Who are you?

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Response to RogerM (Reply #203)

Thu Feb 21, 2019, 10:09 PM

234. LOL

Sure, "Roger."

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Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:54 PM

204. I'm liking Pete Buttigieg

I've heard him interviewed a couple times on NPR and seen him interviewed on PBS. Liked what I saw and heard.
Whoever runs against Trump will get my vote. If multiple people run against Trump, the most likely winner will get my vote.
Trump must be defeated, it's the primary objective.

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Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:57 PM

205. Of course.

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Wed Feb 20, 2019, 11:18 PM

207. I will vote for whoever wins the Democratic Primary

I really don't give a shit who it is, that person will have my vote, and the vote of anyone else I can get to do the same

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Wed Feb 20, 2019, 11:19 PM

208. I hereby promise that I will vote for the Democrat nominee for president,

regardless of who it is. The Democrat gets my vote. I won't sit and complain if it's not the person I wanted, I won't moan and groan, I won't whine incessantly on DU.

I will happily put my mark in the box next to the Democrat who will be the next president of the United States.

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Wed Feb 20, 2019, 11:23 PM

209. Absolutely. Thanks for the thread.

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Wed Feb 20, 2019, 11:39 PM

211. Thats the plan.

I think its still a long time till the elections, and the candidates and voters still have plenty of chances to make bad decisions. Its always possible we could come up with a dark horse that I flat can't back. Zombie Zell Miller, for instance.

But shy of some very unexpected and heinous turn like Lieberman turning up and literally stealing the show, I expect to be voting for the Democratic candidate, whoever it is.

My enthusiasm may be great, or moderate, or very tempered, depending on which one obtains the nomination. But I am a Democrat, and I am Antifa, and I will do what I realistically and meaningfully can to stand against fascism, including voting against Trump even if I dont wholeheartedly love our nominee.

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Wed Feb 20, 2019, 11:53 PM

212. K/R

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Wed Feb 20, 2019, 11:56 PM

213. K&R

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Thu Feb 21, 2019, 12:02 AM

214. ALWAYS. united we win, divided we lose. a vote for a 3rd candidate is a vote for the moron.

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Thu Feb 21, 2019, 02:08 AM

217. Unity!

We need to stand together.

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Thu Feb 21, 2019, 03:21 AM

223. Pinky swear!

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Thu Feb 21, 2019, 08:13 AM

227. Im not concerned how they will stack up against Trump

 

There is no comparison between an ignorant orange buffoon and any of the Democratic candidates, I am concerned about the stupidity of the voters, the cheating of the republicans who have already started sending disinformation all over the place, and according to a reporter invited to the Rachel Maddow show last night, as expected, they have become more sophisticated, and that is of big concern.

Like Einstein so eloquently put it: "Only Two Things Are Infinite, the Universe and Human Stupidity, and I Do Not Know About the Former.", and as we know, there is no limit for voters stupidity.

The big question is, how can we contribute to combat the attacks that Russians and republicans are and will continue to stage on the internet? If we win that battle then we will defeat these crooks, otherwise it will become more difficult because like they did in 2016, votes will be changed, misinformation will have stupid people switch parties, same as it happened in 2016.

I am hoping Democrats would be more proactive in trying to prevent the cheating from republicans this time around, that they will protect their servers, etc.

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Thu Feb 21, 2019, 08:53 AM

228. Hear, hear!

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Thu Feb 21, 2019, 12:32 PM

231. How could I not?

Even if it were one of the two candidates I think are fairly poor choices ( one of them has vot officially announced yet)

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Thu Feb 21, 2019, 02:28 PM

232. You bet your sweet ass. That is all.

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Thu Feb 21, 2019, 02:29 PM

233. Absolutely! nt

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