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Fri Feb 22, 2019, 04:26 PM

 

Crap...MSNBC Breaking news...Mueller says he will not deliver report in the next week.

so there we are once again boys and girls...

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Reply Crap...MSNBC Breaking news...Mueller says he will not deliver report in the next week. (Original post)
jodymarie aimee Feb 2019 OP
eleny Feb 2019 #1
OliverQ Feb 2019 #14
eleny Feb 2019 #18
bearsfootball516 Feb 2019 #2
Miles Archer Feb 2019 #3
NewJeffCT Feb 2019 #11
jodymarie aimee Feb 2019 #19
getagrip_already Feb 2019 #4
drray23 Feb 2019 #5
BigmanPigman Feb 2019 #12
pecosbob Feb 2019 #21
Hekate Feb 2019 #6
suffragette Feb 2019 #16
Johnny2X2X Feb 2019 #7
spanone Feb 2019 #8
TeapotInATempest Feb 2019 #9
yortsed snacilbuper Feb 2019 #13
Wounded Bear Feb 2019 #28
procon Feb 2019 #30
The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2019 #10
Wellstone ruled Feb 2019 #17
Boomerproud Feb 2019 #24
Wellstone ruled Feb 2019 #25
Polly Hennessey Feb 2019 #29
pecosbob Feb 2019 #22
Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2019 #15
gratuitous Feb 2019 #20
TeamPooka Feb 2019 #23
Gothmog Feb 2019 #26
JenniferJuniper Feb 2019 #27
GulfCoast66 Feb 2019 #31
Garrett78 Feb 2019 #32
edbermac Feb 2019 #33

Response to jodymarie aimee (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2019, 04:27 PM

1. What's the skinny on the indictment rumors for today?

I've been out today and haven't caught up on much yet.

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Response to eleny (Reply #1)

Fri Feb 22, 2019, 04:54 PM

14. There aren't any indictment rumors.

Mueller is submitting a sentencing memo for Manafort today.

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Response to OliverQ (Reply #14)

Fri Feb 22, 2019, 04:58 PM

18. Thanks!

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Response to jodymarie aimee (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2019, 04:28 PM

2. I mean, the headlines were always "As soon as next week"

Which implies that it COULD have been next week, but could also be the week after that, or the week after that, etc.

People fell in love with the idea that it HAD to be next week, when the articles never said that.

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Response to jodymarie aimee (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2019, 04:28 PM

3. White House leakage-slash-wishful thinking

Too many loose ends for him to be "finished."

And I find it hard to believe that Don Jr is going to skate by without an indictment.

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Response to Miles Archer (Reply #3)

Fri Feb 22, 2019, 04:41 PM

11. it's an intentional strategy

the media reports the story based on the rumors, everybody gets excited and anticipates the report.

Nothing happens and the investigation continues...

However, the media looks bad for reporting the rumor and it feeds into the Trump narrative of Fake News

Just like the 2017 rumors of Jared Kushner being indicted any day now... still hasn't happened.

And now we have Don Jr about to indicted since October or November of last year... still hasn't happened.

It took almost 9 months after Roger Stone reported he was about to be arrested for it to actually happen, and he's not related to a Trump.

When it doesn't happen, it feeds the FAKE NEWS narrative. If the investigation continues, it makes it look like Mueller is on a fishing expedition (or, gasp, a WITCH HUNT) because Kushner, Don Jr or somebody else was supposed to have been indicted a while ago.

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Response to NewJeffCT (Reply #11)

Fri Feb 22, 2019, 05:11 PM

19. this is kind of brilliant Jeff

 

we are dopes....they are always 2 steps ahead aren't they...we in WI are gerrymandered beyond repair...I always think what ...were we in the closet when the Rs drew these lines...

well it appears media has switched from Smollett to R Kelly now..so more squirrels for you...

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Response to jodymarie aimee (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2019, 04:29 PM

4. You mean the media frenzy was wrong all along?

I'm SHOCKED!!!!! not.

Lyng windbags create their own weather these days. The wh feeds them a line and they run with it.

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Response to jodymarie aimee (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2019, 04:29 PM

5. i think itis a good thing.

This means he is not done. He may yet indict Trump Jr for example.

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Response to drray23 (Reply #5)

Fri Feb 22, 2019, 04:44 PM

12. I agree.

There is the stuff they got from the Stone raid and there is the perjury of Don Jr to Congress plus a lot more.

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Response to BigmanPigman (Reply #12)

Fri Feb 22, 2019, 05:51 PM

21. and DeutscheBank laundering rubles for Trump

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Response to jodymarie aimee (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2019, 04:30 PM

6. I won't believe it until I see Mueller saying it himself on national tv.

He is not beholden to either our wishful thinking or Trump's desire to have this be over.

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Response to Hekate (Reply #6)

Fri Feb 22, 2019, 04:57 PM

16. + 1,000

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Response to jodymarie aimee (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2019, 04:32 PM

7. Could be a tactic by Mueller

Could have let Trump and company think he was getting close and knew they would leak it, because he knew that often a lot of the best leads come at the end by people who are thinking, "well, it's now or never, I better say what I know."

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Response to jodymarie aimee (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2019, 04:35 PM

8. So the white house leaks that mueller is releasing report and the media goes crazy....

just my opinion

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Response to jodymarie aimee (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2019, 04:35 PM

9. This is excellent news.

Mueller is NOT DONE with this mob!

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Response to TeapotInATempest (Reply #9)

Fri Feb 22, 2019, 04:50 PM

13. ditto

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Response to TeapotInATempest (Reply #9)

Fri Feb 22, 2019, 07:27 PM

28. I agree!

I don't want it coming out too soon. Hell, I'm starting to think it would be good for this to go deep into the primary season.

Ask Trump every interview, "How's that Russian thing going, Donnie?"

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Response to TeapotInATempest (Reply #9)

Fri Feb 22, 2019, 10:23 PM

30. Right!

Mueller won't be finished until all the little Trumpies are indicted and Kushner is arrested. He hasn't even started with Stone and Corsi, the National enquierer, Duesche Bank, and the House just handed off the official transcripts of hearing that are likely to bring down lots of Republicans.

Given all the unfinished business, and he held his grand jury for an additional 6 months, Mueller has a lot more work to do. Perhaps he will issue some interim summary report in the mean time.

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Response to jodymarie aimee (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2019, 04:39 PM

10. That was always just a rumor originating in the fevered minds

of some media people who were just trying to read tea leaves. I have never believed it, for several reasons: (1) the fact that the documents and data seized from Roger Stone were described as "voluminous" and consisting of terabytes of electronically-stored material; (2) the fact that the term of the grand jury had been extended for another six months; and (3) investigations normally don't stop with indictments; they continue through trials and guilty pleas. Stone has just recently been indicted and his case is nowhere close to resolution. The Russian defendants will never be tried here, but there is still the matter of the mysterious foreign corporation that is trying to quash a subpoena, and that matter is likely to continue through the appellate process. While some cases have been spun off to other prosecutors, it seems like there's still too much going on in the OSC for it to be wrapped up next week, or any time soon.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #10)

Fri Feb 22, 2019, 04:57 PM

17. Pete Williams burn down in real time.

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Response to Wellstone ruled (Reply #17)

Fri Feb 22, 2019, 06:42 PM

24. He should be much savvier than this by now.

Shame

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Response to Boomerproud (Reply #24)

Fri Feb 22, 2019, 07:16 PM

25. When he worked for Cheney,this was his M O.

Always throwing grenades of half truths and falsehoods.

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Response to Wellstone ruled (Reply #17)

Fri Feb 22, 2019, 07:28 PM

29. Pete Williams

is up to something. Donít forget, he is a Cheney stooge.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #10)

Fri Feb 22, 2019, 05:53 PM

22. or rather planted by those that know very well how to manipulate the media

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Response to jodymarie aimee (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2019, 04:55 PM

15. I honestly wasn't expecting one anytime soon, even after the speculation.

It was basically just a lot of tea leaf reading by the media.

Mueller will act when Mueller acts. We should know that by now.

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Response to jodymarie aimee (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2019, 05:32 PM

20. Predictions are always dicey, especially about the future

As mentioned upthread, the whole "Hoo boy, something BIG is about to break" seems designed to get the public accustomed to disappointment and lessen public trust in the media. While this same thing could be said about Trump, he just spews so much bullshit and comes up with new bullshit all the time that the media forget he promised to announce something or do something in a couple of weeks, and he's never ever held accountable. If someone does remember a broken promise, Trump blithely lies that he never said what he plainly said (and yes, there are tapes), and off he goes again.

For our part, I suggest we tamp down expectations a little bit. The more breathless the prediction, the less we should engage with it. If something dramatic actually happens, we can discuss it then. But this habit of haring off after every juicy rumor or bit of idle gossip just angries up the blood.

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Response to jodymarie aimee (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2019, 05:54 PM

23. all that "report coming stuff" was probably just Trump and Rudy spin

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Response to jodymarie aimee (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2019, 07:22 PM

26. I think that this is good news

I was wondering how he could get the report done with the issues that I think are still pending

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Response to Gothmog (Reply #26)

Fri Feb 22, 2019, 07:25 PM

27. This is excellent news...

tons of stuff is still pending.

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Response to jodymarie aimee (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2019, 11:20 PM

31. I think it is all about trying to manage trump.

The whole spun up story about the whole 25th amendment talk on right wing media had him ready to fire everyone.

His handlers have learned if they can buy a few days he will see a new squirrel and be distracted.

So they leaked the story to make him feel like it was almost over and now other things he sees on right wing media will make him move on.

Or admittly I am full of shit. I know I am batshit crazy thinking I can understand this administrations thinky.

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Response to jodymarie aimee (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2019, 11:46 PM

32. I want a nickel for every time it's predicted that a report is imminent or that Trump is done for.

So that my wife and I can retire early.

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Response to jodymarie aimee (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2019, 11:49 PM

33. The longer he takes means more trouble for Cheeto.

Patience.

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